ESPN report on Bears.

rugbdawg

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Yea. It's not that bad. That's why the 2nd investigation or the alleged 2nd investigation is so important.
 

patdog

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Look who write the article. Ashoff. You can bet he spun it in the best possible way for the Bears.
 

Tomas Smid

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One would think that after a three year investigation there would be much more to the NCAA findings than that. Where are all the cash payments, party girls, trucks, etc., to recruits and players? Where are the allegations directly linked to Freeze and the subsequent failure to monitor? If that report is all there is, it will all be buried and long forgotten by next recruiting season and you know what that means. . . .
 

tatedog

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Until 3 weeks ago, the first letter didn't exist either. Keep whistling, sweetie.
 

PopeCourtland

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No. He didn't. At the bottom of the page you see 4 people credited Aschoff, Low, McMurphy and reports from the AP.
 

paindonthurt_

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Big difference in these two articles and Bjork's quotes.

"Outside counsel for the University of Mississippi received a Notice of Allegations from the NCAA - another step in a more than three-year process. Included in the notice are alleged violations of NCAA bylaws in women's basketball in 2012; track and field in 2012-13; and in football, with many of the allegations dating back to the former football staff in 2010 and the withholding and reinstatement process around Laremy Tunsil in fall of 2015.

This article states four violations involve current staff. Those 4 apparently involve the bump rule. Then it says 5 involve Laremy Tunsil. Well by my math thats 9 of the 13 involving the current staff.

Unless my reading comprehension really sucks (it does suck regardless), something doesn't add up b/t January 30th article and this one.
 

BigLeagueChew

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My understanding (which as a bearshark is always wrong according to this board) is the Tunsil allegations are not tied to the staff, i.e. they had nothing to do with what he did as opposed to a bump violation. So when Bjork say "many of the...." he is saying 9 of 13 (or "many") are related to Nutt and Tunsil and only 4 relate possible infractions committed by Freeze and co.

While Ole Miss can be punished for the Tunsil infractions, those infractions would not go toward any case or show cause against Freeze or his staff.
 

tatedog

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My understanding (which as a bearshark is always wrong according to this board) is the Tunsil allegations are not tied to the staff, i.e. they had nothing to do with what he did as opposed to a bump violation. So when Bjork say "many of the...." he is saying 9 of 13 (or "many") are related to Nutt and Tunsil and only 4 relate possible infractions committed by Freeze and co.

While Ole Miss can be punished for the Tunsil infractions, those infractions would not go toward any case or show cause against Freeze or his staff.

Last week they were admitting 5 football allegations... now we have them admitting 4 violations involving Freeze alone. I think they are getting to the acceptance phase slowly but surely.
 

Hump4Hoops

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I still refuse to get my hopes up

until we see an official sanction. I still firmly believe that nothing substantial enough to warrant a bowl ban will be proven, unless they were able to get football players/facilitators on ACT misconduct.

If that is the case, it could indeed be a "good" thing for ole miss, as this is basically a big stamp of approval on their recruiting tactics, that the NCAA can't catch a ******* cold.
 
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DancingRabbit

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It's Michael Joe Cannon. Booster and Bjork buddy.


Cannon in light blue tie
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Black Rebel Shark Land Bear Racists aren't always wrong, ya'll have just been led by tricksters into a half Jonestown and half Narnia type of place where fantasy is accepted as reality.

Example 1.
As a MSU fan I know that MSU is bigger than just Jackie Sherrill, bigger than Dan Mullen, and bigger even than Dak Prescott. If any of these 3 men turned against MSU and hated MSU then I would turn against them (yes even Dak). However JungRebel and some other Ole Miss folks I have heard talk say that they don't care if Ole Miss gets NCAA Sanctions they just DON'T WANT Rev. Hugh Freezus Christ to get any Sanctions. That is sort of Jonestown **** where some family members chose to stay with Jim Jones while others left to go to the airstrip with the Congressman. Some Ole Miss people would rather see their University get into trouble than allow themselves to think that Hugh is a dirty recruiter in a Christian preacher mask.

Example 2.
Ole Miss has not been right about their released information on the NOA. From the standpoint of Few of the violations even are about Football, the violations are Minor in nature, to the violations DO NOT include the current coaching staff (just Nutt). OK Black Rebel Shark Land Bear Racists, I say that Mullen is responsible for the Will Redmond car scandal and I am sure you would agree ("Yeah 17 Mullen). True Mullen didn't buy the car for Redmond and really only Angelo Mirando was the only coach involved---IT HAPPENED UNDER MULLEN'S WATCH, "heavy lies the head that wears a Crown" and "the buck stops here" and "the captain goes down with his ship". In the same breath I say to you, Freeze was the Head Coach at Ole Miss and he brags to have a personal relationship and family relationship with his players (and High School coaches to help with recruiting) so if Tunsil got benefits and a loaner car then Freeze should have known, should have reported or stopped the violation before it went too far, and should be held responsible. Ole Miss fans don't seem to understand the connection, if you accept the Millions in Salary then you HAVE TO accept the Responsibility that comes with the position. By saying a Tunsil violation doesn't involve Hugh Freeze is the same stupidity of saying "Obama is the First Black President"---No you idiots, Obama is the First Bi-Racial President! And Obama choosing to ignore the fact that his mother was White doesn't make the Fact of his half Caucasian lineage go away---and Ole Miss fans saying that the violations were a Tunsil thing and nothing to do with Hugh Freeze doesn't make the Fact that he was responsible go away either.
 

tatedog

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They love Freeze b/c they think he has all this **** figured out. We'll see. If they were wrong they'll butcher him too.
 
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until we see an official sanction. I still firmly believe that nothing substantial enough to warrant a bowl ban will be proven, unless they were able to get football players/facilitators on ACT misconduct.

If that is the case, it could indeed be a "good" thing for ole miss, as this is basically a big stamp of approval on their recruiting tactics, that the NCAA can't catch a ******* cold.



Put me in this camp as well. Every time I hear Ole Miss is up for some investigation it reminds me of this little song from a long ago movie.

 

eyeofthesouth

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Black Rebel Shark Land Bear Racists aren't always wrong, ya'll have just been led by tricksters into a half Jonestown and half Narnia type of place where fantasy is accepted as reality.

Example 1.
As a MSU fan I know that MSU is bigger than just Jackie Sherrill, bigger than Dan Mullen, and bigger even than Dak Prescott. If any of these 3 men turned against MSU and hated MSU then I would turn against them (yes even Dak). However JungRebel and some other Ole Miss folks I have heard talk say that they don't care if Ole Miss gets NCAA Sanctions they just DON'T WANT Rev. Hugh Freezus Christ to get any Sanctions. That is sort of Jonestown **** where some family members chose to stay with Jim Jones while others left to go to the airstrip with the Congressman. Some Ole Miss people would rather see their University get into trouble than allow themselves to think that Hugh is a dirty recruiter in a Christian preacher mask.

Example 2.
Ole Miss has not been right about their released information on the NOA. From the standpoint of Few of the violations even are about Football, the violations are Minor in nature, to the violations DO NOT include the current coaching staff (just Nutt). OK Black Rebel Shark Land Bear Racists, I say that Mullen is responsible for the Will Redmond car scandal and I am sure you would agree ("Yeah 17 Mullen). True Mullen didn't buy the car for Redmond and really only Angelo Mirando was the only coach involved---IT HAPPENED UNDER MULLEN'S WATCH, "heavy lies the head that wears a Crown" and "the buck stops here" and "the captain goes down with his ship". In the same breath I say to you, Freeze was the Head Coach at Ole Miss and he brags to have a personal relationship and family relationship with his players (and High School coaches to help with recruiting) so if Tunsil got benefits and a loaner car then Freeze should have known, should have reported or stopped the violation before it went too far, and should be held responsible. Ole Miss fans don't seem to understand the connection, if you accept the Millions in Salary then you HAVE TO accept the Responsibility that comes with the position. By saying a Tunsil violation doesn't involve Hugh Freeze is the same stupidity of saying "Obama is the First Black President"---No you idiots, Obama is the First Bi-Racial President! And Obama choosing to ignore the fact that his mother was White doesn't make the Fact of his half Caucasian lineage go away---and Ole Miss fans saying that the violations were a Tunsil thing and nothing to do with Hugh Freeze doesn't make the Fact that he was responsible go away either.

^^^^This guy is weird.
 

Shamoan

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rosebowl said as much in this interview on OOB today. said he was told that it is still ongoing and there will likely be an addendum to what is already on the table centered around the academic fraud stuff. rosebowl/his sources have been killing it re: this om investigation.
 

leeinator

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ESPN's Aschoff is an Ole Miss guy and based out of Oxford. Just think about that when you digest what he's saying.
 

dawgstudent

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He grew up in Oxford but went to Florida (Gators) and lives in Atlanta.

Although it's kind of obvious who the media's sources are on this.
 
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