ESPN "Officially on Life Support"

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ESPN is 3 or 4 times more expensive per viewer than any other channel so your cable bill is much higher if it includes ESPN. They had a monopoly on sports for so long they could name their price. It's only a matter of time before they offer stand along service through WatchESPN over the internet outside normal cable/satellite. And it better be competitively priced. The problem is they buy so many rights to so many different leagues and sports they have to make a certain amount to show it all or they won't have enough games/shows to fill air time. It's definitely going to be interesting to see how they handle it.
 
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ESPN is like Sears, they started to try and be too many things and got away from what made them great in the first place.

They've diluted themselves with a lot of extra stuff.

Their ever increasing social and political commentary hasn't helped either.

Also seems like they've skimped on talent to save a buck, and being in the sports business they should know what that eventually leads to.
 

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ESPN is like Sears, they started to try and be too many things and got away from what made them great in the first place.

They've diluted themselves with a lot of extra stuff.

Their ever increasing social and political commentary hasn't helped either.

Also seems like they've skimped on talent to save a buck, and being in the sports business they should know what that eventually leads to.
Spot on! Too many talking heads for me...I watch games only!
 

Aike

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That article makes one very large mistake: acting like all of ESPN's revenue comes from subscriber fees.

In actuality, 64% of their revenue comes from subscribers. So they don't project to be "in the red" in a couple years as this article says. They should still have billions in profit from advertising, etc.

Not that they don't have issues. The issues just aren't quite what this article makes them out to be.
 

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ESPN is 3 or 4 times more expensive per viewer than any other channel so your cable bill is much higher if it includes ESPN. They had a monopoly on sports for so long they could name their price. It's only a matter of time before they offer stand along service through WatchESPN over the internet outside normal cable/satellite. And it better be competitively priced. The problem is they buy so many rights to so many different leagues and sports they have to make a certain amount to show it all or they won't have enough games/shows to fill air time. It's definitely going to be interesting to see how they handle it.
A lot like the U Texas media deal - they got their payday with the leverage they'd accrued, but now many teams would rather be in any other major league besides the Big 12.

Also similar to how UL screwed the Yum center.
 

mhroe1984

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I still have ESPN, but only watch college football or basketball games. Sportscenter has sucked for years now and I just got sick and tired of their constant NFL love fest. With NFL Live airing what seems like multiple times a day and Mike and Mike they outta just call it the ESPNFL Network. It's all those idiots talk about.
 

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I have a question for the cord cutters and ESPN boycotters. Where do you watch UK games? I'm not sure but isn't any legal online stream you're watching ESPN's production, therefore having to pay them for the rights?
 

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I'll never forget the moment I realized espn had taken a turn for the worst. For me it was when they started putting "ESPN deportes" segments on Sportscenter in 2007 but it wasn't in Spanish. It was a Hispanic sportscaster speaking English to do American soccer highlights. I had to laugh at how humorously albeit innocently racist it seemed in a Michael Scott sort of way.
 
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And sit behind the desks for gods sake! No one wants to see your brown shoes and knobby knees.

It was good enough for Cronkite so let it be good enough for you.

:grimace:
 

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I still have ESPN, but only watch college football or basketball games. Sportscenter has sucked for years now and I just got sick and tired of their constant NFL love fest. With NFL Live airing what seems like multiple times a day and Mike and Mike they outta just call it the ESPNFL Network. It's all those idiots talk about.
I remember in 2012 they didn't talk much about Kentucky winning the National Championship but all they talked about was Tim Tebow.
 

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I have a question for the cord cutters and ESPN boycotters. Where do you watch UK games? I'm not sure but isn't any legal online stream you're watching ESPN's production, therefore having to pay them for the rights?

I use Playstation Vue. I pay Sony every month, who I am sure distributes some of the profits to ESPN. But $35 a month compared to $120 a month (and climbing) for the same product is a no brainer.
 

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ESPN and Disney are a joke now. It's so god dam apart from what made it great.

All it is now is hacks giving opinions and hot takes on social and political issues that I don't want with my sports, or for that matter give a **** what they think or believe.

If I want to hear that crap I will watch CNN or Fox.

Screw ESPN.
 

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I use Playstation Vue. I pay Sony every month, who I am sure distributes some of the profits to ESPN. But $35 a month compared to $120 a month (and climbing) for the same product is a no brainer.

Yep, I dropped Charter cable like a hot potato. Kept the internet, got Sling with the sports package for $25 a month, got another streaming device that is awesome, and an HD antenna. I went from paying Charter $185 a month for internet and cable to paying $75 a month for internet and Sling. Had this setup for 1.5 years now and it's awesome. I watch as much ESPN as ever, NFL/NBA/MLB out the ***, movies and shows, and saving over $1300 a year in the process.
 

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I pay zero. My folks have directv so I just use their login to stream WatchESPN/NBCSN live extra/Fox Sports Go/CBS sports/beIN Sports etc and get everything I need.

There is a streaming service/App for virtually every network out there now so I don't have to download shows anymore. The only networks worth watching are HBO, AMC, and FX..... I can just stream all their shows on my Note 5 and then magically send the picture to my TV.

God technology is great now.


Every time anything media related comes up on this board I am reminded why Kentucky is still looked down on. People spouting paranoid liberal media conspiracy nonsense as usual...... Seriously, the left doesn't control the media. It is owned by a handful of Oligarchs who wouldn't allow anything even remotely fiscally liberal to take hold in this country if they had to put every one of you into ovens to stop it.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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That article makes one very large mistake: acting like all of ESPN's revenue comes from subscriber fees.

In actuality, 64% of their revenue comes from subscribers. So they don't project to be "in the red" in a couple years as this article says. They should still have billions in profit from advertising, etc.

Not that they don't have issues. The issues just aren't quite what this article makes them out to be.

I assure you... with subscribers and ratings going down... advertising $$ will slip along with it.
 
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Kodi user.

I pay for Internet, bought a $40 Amazon FireStick and watched 15 minutes of youtube training vids to learn how to install Kodi and which add-ons to install. I enjoy pretty much everything - ESPN family, FSN family, NFL Network, network channels, most cable channels, HBO, Showtime, etc - for the cost of the Internet. Likely illegal. Don't care. I got raped by CONcast for a decade, so it evens out.

I also have the capability to stream my laptop and phone to the TV as a backup. I love technology.
 
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Jkwo_rivals113955

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Every time anything media related comes up on this board I am reminded why Kentucky is still looked down on. People spouting paranoid liberal media conspiracy nonsense as usual...... Seriously, the left doesn't control the media. It is owned by a handful of Oligarchs who wouldn't allow anything even remotely fiscally liberal to take hold in this country if they had to put every one of you into ovens to stop it.
I have no love for Fox, Trump, whatever - and none of my disdain for ESPN has to do with political anything. I don't know enough about the Schilling thing to determine whether I agree with his grievance (if he got fired for putting up the "wrong opinion" in a panel, then I'd agree with him).

I'm one of those reviled moderates who thinks both the right and the left have good points at times.

But what you're saying here is really far from true - it's not even a debate anymore. Of GD course the Western media has a liberal bias. C'mon now.

There have been so many internal memos passed around from the TVs, papers, etc regarding trying to tamp down personal biases within the editorial staff, the numerous Pew polls, have you missed all that? It's common knowledge now. And it's been that way for a while, but it became much more pronounced since the massive partisan split around the turn of the century.

The reason that conservative propaganda (primarily radio based) has become so massive and monolithic?
The all conservative news all the time mentality is a coping mechanism for getting constantly crapped on and straw-manned in other media.
 

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I use Playstation Vue. I pay Sony every month, who I am sure distributes some of the profits to ESPN. But $35 a month compared to $120 a month (and climbing) for the same product is a no brainer.
Anyone who watched ESPN in the early days knows of english rugby or australian rules football. Now there are alot of espn wannabees.
I miss the swamp buggy races.
 

BlueRunner11

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All it is now is hacks giving opinions and hot takes on social and political issues that I don't want with my sports, or for that matter give a **** what they think or believe.
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You mean Bruce Jenner's Courage Award may not have been strictly about sports?! :scream:

 
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David Rice

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I remember ESPN up close. Especially the interview with Cal. Also the infamous interview with OJ Simpson.
 

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ESPN saved us from these terrible local broadcasts of UK basketball games though. The broadcast crew was the most boring group in all of sports and it felt like half the games where on taped delay.