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zebnatto

All-Conference
May 7, 2008
5,071
3,818
0
Up today. 68 teams + 8 just off that list (including Michigan and Clemson). Understand but disappointed that we didn’t get a mention among those 76 teams. Guess it was those early losses.

Thoughts?
 

Scangg

Heisman
Mar 19, 2016
25,448
49,369
113
Those early losses are going to haunt us in March. We need a spectacular season in B1G play to offset. Dancing will be a tough task
 

NewJerseyHawk

Heisman
Jan 11, 2007
24,458
38,752
113
This entire season across the landscape is hit or miss.....teams are missing games so resumes are at best, going to be inconsistent, when comparing one to another.

There are teams with bad losses or multiple bad losses who dance and whether it was Lafayette this year or Nebraska last year, it is all the same.....RU is in the field if you add 12 B1G wins to their resume, 100% no questions asked.

The B1G has too many talented teams and quality wins will more than offset Lafayette.....

The injury factor also is a consideration, since Baker missed the final 8 minutes of Lafayette, missed UMass as well.

We have RU fans somehow parroting the notion that Michigan was shorthanded the other night. Sooooo let's give Michigan a free pass for missing players but not RU??
 

ColonelRutgers

All-American
Dec 15, 2003
7,106
9,298
113
This entire season across the landscape is hit or miss.....teams are missing games so resumes are at best, going to be inconsistent, when comparing one to another.

There are teams with bad losses or multiple bad losses who dance and whether it was Lafayette this year or Nebraska last year, it is all the same.....RU is in the field if you add 12 B1G wins to their resume, 100% no questions asked.

The B1G has too many talented teams and quality wins will more than offset Lafayette.....

The injury factor also is a consideration, since Baker missed the final 8 minutes of Lafayette, missed UMass as well.

We have RU fans somehow parroting the notion that Michigan was shorthanded the other night. Sooooo let's give Michigan a free pass for missing players but not RU??
Mag was basically out for us too. It seems to me that Pikiell sees him as our first sub but he just can't stay healthy. Hyatt had to play a lot against Michigan but his minutes have been way down. I am NOT giving up. If I wasn't an eternal optimist down deep how could I have followed this program for almost 40 years? There is talent there and they've shown what they're capable of when everyone is healthy. Going to take a LOT. Maybe even 13 league wins which would be a crazy achievement but we'll be 3-1 in league if we take care of Nebraska and 16 regular season games left to make a statement. Is it insane to think we could go 9-7 the rest of the way? That's two games over .500 for that stretch. We went 11-9 two years ago so is that much of a difference? If we can we're probably still on the bubble because of our early season screwups but there will be some impressive wins along the way too. Believe.
 
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nyurutgers

Freshman
Dec 26, 2020
37
57
0
If we get 20-25 points per game consistently out of Baker and RHJ and consistent play from Cliff and the cast of Mag, MacDonald, et al we will be fine. I believe this team has started to jell. Twenty or more assists in last three games, bad game against SHU and 18 assists against Purdue.
 
Oct 19, 2010
207,472
28,752
0
RU is still digging out of a hole. We have multiple quad 3/4 losses. The NCAAs are still a possibility, and the B1G schedule will give us ample opportunity to dance in 2022. But it is still an uphill battle. RU needs to be better than average in conference play.
 

soundcrib

All-Conference
Oct 7, 2002
6,744
3,903
113
Up today. 68 teams + 8 just off that list (including Michigan and Clemson). Understand but disappointed that we didn’t get a mention among those 76 teams. Guess it was those early losses.

Thoughts?
Umm... yeah.
 

jerzeyguy

All-Conference
May 18, 2008
3,517
2,600
0
(Feb 5 - Mar 2) have a strong stretch here and we're in business

Mich St
Osu
@Wisc
Illi
@Pur
@Mich
Wisc
@Ind
 
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Loyal_2RU

Heisman
Aug 6, 2001
15,234
11,049
113
11-6 to finish the regular season and we are a lock to go dancing. Don't bother thinking about what happened in November.

10-7 and we are probably in.
Mike, I have to believe that 4 games over. 500 in the Big 10 is a lock. 6 games over is a 3 or 4 seed, especially when 2 losses are partially mitigated by an injury to Geo.
Loyal
 
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T2Kplus20

Heisman
May 1, 2007
31,847
19,830
113
Losing to Lafayette and Umass will be difficult to overcome. Rutgers will have to go at least 12-8 against league rivals to have any chance for a NCAA bid.
+1
Losing to very bad teams have consequences.
 
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bac2therac

Hall of Famer
Jul 30, 2001
247,822
177,501
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(Feb 5 - Mar 2) have a strong stretch here and we're in business

Mich St
Osu
@Wisc
@Illi
@Pur
@Mich
Wisc
@Ind


this is an incredibly brutal stretch.....RU almost has to win all its home games, win 2 and then get one road win and yes they need a road win for the resume. The away games are tough, going 3-5 in that stretch would be a success. Can RU be 9-3 going into those games, we need to do alot of work in our first half slate to give us breathing room
 

mikeyoc

All-Conference
Apr 19, 2005
1,250
1,238
113
It's also not Kenpom's fault that our terrible early play was pumping terrible data into the model. All those bad losses and even the wins weren't impressive
Just saying using metrics from November basketball as a basis for predicting
future results in college seasons is an often faulty premise.
 
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JavaDunk18

All-Conference
Sep 11, 2011
1,102
1,014
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It is practically a must win today.. The early bad losses can be more than overcome with more wins like Purdue & thrashing of Michigan.
must think that committee, like in football, will pay less weight on those early losses, with more Q1 wins, especially those of a Jerry Palm eye opening road nature.
At the very least it should get us into the first four, which is still my prediction.
We also need not to be swept by any team in the Big Ten in home/home scenarios.
 
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RUBigFrank

All-Conference
Jun 9, 2003
2,864
1,784
113
we need to finish in the top eight in BIg standings. That should be enough for an at large - 12-8 finish likely gets us in the top 25 and an excellent seed.
 

Knight Owl

All-Conference
Jul 27, 2001
3,536
2,580
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we need to finish in the top eight in BIg standings. That should be enough for an at large - 12-8 finish likely gets us in the top 25 and an excellent seed.
Yeah 12-8 would definitely include quality road wins and would be bubble-in at worst IMHO.
 

bac2therac

Hall of Famer
Jul 30, 2001
247,822
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It is practically a must win today.. The early bad losses can be more than overcome with more wins like Purdue & thrashing of Michigan.
must think that committee, like in football, will pay less weight on those early losses, with more Q1 wins, especially those of a Jerry Palm eye opening road nature.
At the very least it should get us into the first four, which is still my prediction.
We also need not to be swept by any team in the Big Ten in home/home scenarios.


i would caution people downplaying OOC stuff, it does count and games in November are treated the same as games in February. RU needs Clemson to really do well because its our only non conference win worth anything
 
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Scarlet Shack

Heisman
Feb 3, 2004
26,282
15,971
73
11-6 to finish the regular season and we are a lock to go dancing. Don't bother thinking about what happened in November.

10-7 and we are probably in.

This is correct
19-11...even with a first round big ten loss...we are still in. N

And even 10-7, with a first round big ten win makes us almost a lock ...13-9 in 22 big games and a 19-13 record , is really good shape
 
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Scangg

Heisman
Mar 19, 2016
25,448
49,369
113
to me it is, people will argue its not but REALISTICALLY if you are not beating the last place team in the league at home and you already have 2 perhaps 3 really bad losses on your resume, you are not going to be making any kind of NCAA run
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