Enough is Enough

UKCowboys

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I have been called a Pope Pumper this season, even though I thought he was a terrible hire at the time. I simply refuse to dog out the coach and the team wearing the Blue during the season. Stand behind them and fight till the end. And with MB here, a third year was always guaranteed, so again, support who we have.

But the season is over now, and we are going to have a new AD. Mark Pope should be fired tomorrow morning. He had injuries this year, no question, Ill give him that. But the team we do have is poorly coached. Iowa State is coached so much better than we are it isn't even funny. We have kids who have stepped up. DA and Oweh have been great this year. Chandler improved and Mo was really good. Pope gave them no help at all. The offense we run is ridiculous. We don't run shooters off screens, we don't back cut, we don't run pick and roll, we don't do a damn thing but run to spots and play one on one. Defensively, our fundamentals have been pathetic. We run under screens, get lost on cutters, we don't even play with our hands up on ball.
We don't block out, not one big blocks out. The only big we have that can board is Mo. We don't run quality sets on inbounds. We don't help on backside, we leave 3 point shooters wide open, we back off top shooters, we make idiotic fouls. We don't play high IQ. We are poorly coached.
Mark's substitution patterns and lineups are nonsense. He coached a terrible game today calling time outs, having sets out of time outs, not calling a damn TO when we got the 5 second call. He is just in over his head.
As far as our personnel, I think we have a lot of players that should not be given up on, because with a high caliber coach, several of these kids have potential. You played against one such coach today. I can name about 20 others if Pope gets fired that can turn this around, and they absolutely don't have to be named Hurley or Oats. We have to let Pope go and we have to get this freaking hire right
 

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UKortho

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I have been called a Pope Pumper this season, even though I thought he was a terrible hire at the time. I simply refuse to dog out the coach and the team wearing the Blue during the season. Stand behind them and fight till the end. And with MB here, a third year was always guaranteed, so again, support who we have.

But the season is over now, and we are going to have a new AD. Mark Pope should be fired tomorrow morning. He had injuries this year, no question, Ill give him that. But the team we do have is poorly coached. Iowa State is coached so much better than we are it isn't even funny. We have kids who have stepped up. DA and Oweh have been great this year. Chandler improved and Mo was really good. Pope gave them no help at all. The offense we run is ridiculous. We don't run shooters off screens, we don't back cut, we don't run pick and roll, we don't do a damn thing but run to spots and play one on one. Defensively, our fundamentals have been pathetic. We run under screens, get lost on cutters, we don't even play with our hands up on ball.
We don't block out, not one big blocks out. The only big we have that can board is Mo. We don't run quality sets on inbounds. We don't help on backside, we leave 3 point shooters wide open, we back off top shooters, we make idiotic fouls. We don't play high IQ. We are poorly coached.
Mark's substitution patterns and lineups are nonsense. He coached a terrible game today calling time outs, having sets out of time outs, not calling a damn TO when we got the 5 second call. He is just in over his head.
As far as our personnel, I think we have a lot of players that should not be given up on, because with a high caliber coach, several of these kids have potential. You played against one such coach today. I can name about 20 others if Pope gets fired that can turn this around, and they absolutely don't have to be named Hurley or Oats. We have to let Pope go and we have to get this freaking hire right

Yeah- stfu. You’ve been an idiot all year.
 
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He’s not getting fired, Cowboy. But I agree — Pope was outcoached a lot this year. Mike White, Pat Kelsey, Steven Pearl…there was enough to really question how he did what he did last year versus this one. I still don’t get it.
 

CELTICAT

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OP, I’ve been less than kind to you. Didn’t like it when you lashed out at folks for being upset. With that said, and having read your post here, I offer a sincere apology and an olive branch. I’m willing to let bygones be bygones. I understand if that’s a bridge too far, and won’t hold it against you. I am glad to see you aren’t totally irrational or otherwise trolling the board.
 

UKCowboys

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Yeah- stfu. You’ve been an idiot all year.
No. You have been a jackass all year. I supported the team till the clock said 0:00. You are one of the idiots who call anyone who choses to try and be positive though a bad situation a Pumper. Just because the season ends and we have a new AD so I want the guy gone doesn't mean you and I will ever see eye to eye because you are a 365 days a year jerk
 

UKortho

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No. You have been a jackass all year. I supported the team till the clock said 0:00. You are one of the idiots who call anyone who choses to try and be positive though a bad situation a Pumper. Just because the season ends and we have a new AD so I want the guy gone doesn't mean you and I will ever see eye to eye because you are a 365 days a year jerk

Wrong. I called you a member of Popes dopes.
 

UKGrad24

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This was very easy to see. Anyone who didn’t, needs to talk less and listen to guys who understand what this sport is. Sounds arrogant, and I’m not special, but how anyone didn’t see almost immediately he’s awful is unbelievable. And if you didn’t see it you’d do well so listen more when it comes to sports.

I supported him until the beginning of the season and saw all I needed to over last season and this one. I ended the support immediately. So it’s fine and you can do what you want, but you clearly don’t understand how this works. Mark was obviously a flop hire and when you put it in context, if you understand this sport, you would have seen that at the end of last season or beginning of this one. Just the truth.
 

Monday Nitro

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No. You have been a jackass all year. I supported the team till the clock said 0:00. You are one of the idiots who call anyone who choses to try and be positive though a bad situation a Pumper. Just because the season ends and we have a new AD so I want the guy gone doesn't mean you and I will ever see eye to eye because you are a 365 days a year jerk
You’re on fire today! +1.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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No. You have been a jackass all year. I supported the team till the clock said 0:00. You are one of the idiots who call anyone who choses to try and be positive though a bad situation a Pumper. Just because the season ends and we have a new AD so I want the guy gone doesn't mean you and I will ever see eye to eye because you are a 365 days a year jerk

You’re on fire today! +1.
You guys remind me of those two besties from that movie Fried Green Tomatoes.

 

UKCowboys

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OP, I’ve been less than kind to you. Didn’t like it when you lashed out at folks for being upset. With that said, and having read your post here, I offer a sincere apology and an olive branch. I’m willing to let bygones be bygones. I understand if that’s a bridge too far, and won’t hold it against you. I am glad to see you aren’t totally irrational or otherwise trolling the board.
Same Brother. We are all UK fans(well, probably 80% of us). I am just not a person who can quit on coaches or kids in the middle of a fight. When the final bell rings, there will be plenty of time to access tge damage.
And I apologize well and appreciate your sentiment. I am the same in reverse, I often lash out after being called a bumper and a slurper, despite the fit I threw when he was hired. I was just as wrong for lashing out at everyone when it was only a handful who were always ugly about it to me
 

NineBannersSoon

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I have been called a Pope Pumper this season, even though I thought he was a terrible hire at the time. I simply refuse to dog out the coach and the team wearing the Blue during the season. Stand behind them and fight till the end. And with MB here, a third year was always guaranteed, so again, support who we have.

But the season is over now, and we are going to have a new AD. Mark Pope should be fired tomorrow morning. He had injuries this year, no question, Ill give him that. But the team we do have is poorly coached. Iowa State is coached so much better than we are it isn't even funny. We have kids who have stepped up. DA and Oweh have been great this year. Chandler improved and Mo was really good. Pope gave them no help at all. The offense we run is ridiculous. We don't run shooters off screens, we don't back cut, we don't run pick and roll, we don't do a damn thing but run to spots and play one on one. Defensively, our fundamentals have been pathetic. We run under screens, get lost on cutters, we don't even play with our hands up on ball.
We don't block out, not one big blocks out. The only big we have that can board is Mo. We don't run quality sets on inbounds. We don't help on backside, we leave 3 point shooters wide open, we back off top shooters, we make idiotic fouls. We don't play high IQ. We are poorly coached.
Mark's substitution patterns and lineups are nonsense. He coached a terrible game today calling time outs, having sets out of time outs, not calling a damn TO when we got the 5 second call. He is just in over his head.
As far as our personnel, I think we have a lot of players that should not be given up on, because with a high caliber coach, several of these kids have potential. You played against one such coach today. I can name about 20 others if Pope gets fired that can turn this around, and they absolutely don't have to be named Hurley or Oats. We have to let Pope go and we have to get this freaking hire
He’s not getting fired, Cowboy. But I agree — Pope was outcoached a lot this year. Mike White, Pat Kelsey, Steven Pearl…there was enough to really question how he did what he did last year versus this one. I still don’t get it.
I thought you had data proving all the people questioning Pope wrong?? You seemed very convicted in that.
 

NineBannersSoon

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I have been called a Pope Pumper this season, even though I thought he was a terrible hire at the time. I simply refuse to dog out the coach and the team wearing the Blue during the season. Stand behind them and fight till the end. And with MB here, a third year was always guaranteed, so again, support who we have.

But the season is over now, and we are going to have a new AD. Mark Pope should be fired tomorrow morning. He had injuries this year, no question, Ill give him that. But the team we do have is poorly coached. Iowa State is coached so much better than we are it isn't even funny. We have kids who have stepped up. DA and Oweh have been great this year. Chandler improved and Mo was really good. Pope gave them no help at all. The offense we run is ridiculous. We don't run shooters off screens, we don't back cut, we don't run pick and roll, we don't do a damn thing but run to spots and play one on one. Defensively, our fundamentals have been pathetic. We run under screens, get lost on cutters, we don't even play with our hands up on ball.
We don't block out, not one big blocks out. The only big we have that can board is Mo. We don't run quality sets on inbounds. We don't help on backside, we leave 3 point shooters wide open, we back off top shooters, we make idiotic fouls. We don't play high IQ. We are poorly coached.
Mark's substitution patterns and lineups are nonsense. He coached a terrible game today calling time outs, having sets out of time outs, not calling a damn TO when we got the 5 second call. He is just in over his head.
As far as our personnel, I think we have a lot of players that should not be given up on, because with a high caliber coach, several of these kids have potential. You played against one such coach today. I can name about 20 others if Pope gets fired that can turn this around, and they absolutely don't have to be named Hurley or Oats. We have to let Pope go and we have to get this freaking hire right
Don’t be a turncoat! Pope is the GOAT!!
 

MarkPftw

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He’s not getting fired, Cowboy. But I agree — Pope was outcoached a lot this year. Mike White, Pat Kelsey, Steven Pearl…there was enough to really question how he did what he did last year versus this one. I still don’t get it.

Add HUBERT DAVIS to the list that outcoached Pope this year. Hubert effing Davis.
 

Bugs092056

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No. You have been a jackass all year. I supported the team till the clock said 0:00. You are one of the idiots who call anyone who choses to try and be positive though a bad situation a Pumper. Just because the season ends and we have a new AD so I want the guy gone doesn't mean you and I will ever see eye to eye because you are a 365 days a year jerk

My like for jw was directed toward your trash post, just know that
 

Bugs092056

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Please stfu. For months, we have all watched the same thing, and yet you came on here and called us all stupid and defended Clappy.

Don't try to break down basketball now, we all know how dumb you are.

Your post was legit, not trash. Just so you know. Fire Pope
 
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UKGrad24

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Same Brother. We are all UK fans(well, probably 80% of us). I am just not a person who can quit on coaches or kids in the middle of a fight. When the final bell rings, there will be plenty of time to access tge damage.
And I apologize well and appreciate your sentiment. I am the same in reverse, I often lash out after being called a bumper and a slurper, despite the fit I threw when he was hired. I was just as wrong for lashing out at everyone when it was only a handful who were always ugly about it to me
You’re fine. It’s why I didn’t block you, you want to support UK and I think you’re younger and I was similar. I’m 40 now and have been ingrained in This sht for a long time. A lot of us have, and you just know a flop when you see it. It takes a very special coach to come into UK, after a guy like Calipari, and win. Mark does not have the record or the history to do that. And he won’t do it, he can’t, he doesn’t have that ability. If mark didn’t have millions to recruit he would be the worst coach we’ve ever seen bar none. He’s just lucky it’s NIL.

But we’re all living and learning. My advice is listen to the UK fans in front, not the trollish guys who pump to pump. They’re usually the ones who know and you’ll easily recognize them. Low key, know the sport, explain in context why it’s not working and look at recruiting. It’s the lifeblood. If the guy can’t evaluate and recruit he can’t win. Also if a guy has been coaching for well over 10 years and has a bad record, believe him.
 

UKCowboys

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This was very easy to see. Anyone who didn’t, needs to talk less and listen to guys who understand what this sport is. Sounds arrogant, and I’m not special, but how anyone didn’t see almost immediately he’s awful is unbelievable. And if you didn’t see it you’d do well so listen more when it comes to sports.

I supported him until the beginning of the season and saw all I needed to over last season and this one. I ended the support immediately. So it’s fine and you can do what you want, but you clearly don’t understand how this works. Mark was obviously a flop hire and when you put it in context, if you understand this sport, you would have seen that at the end of last season or beginning of this one. Just the truth.
Scroll back and see who I called for on a daily basis to be our coach....Bruce Pearl. I don't make the hires. I do support whoever has the gig. Guess what? Ill support whoever the new guy is once he has the gig and not cry like a little girl for two years. We end up in the same place whether positive or negative ace.
 

UKortho

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You’re fine. It’s why I didn’t block you, you want to support UK and I think you’re younger and I was similar. I’m 40 now and have been ingrained in This sht for a long time. A lot of us have, and you just know a flop when you see it. It takes a very special coach to come into UK, after a guy like Calipari, and win. Mark does not have the record or the history to do that. And he won’t do it, he can’t, he doesn’t have that ability. If mark didn’t have millions to recruit he would be the worst coach we’ve ever seen bar none. He’s just lucky it’s NIL.

But we’re all living and learning. My advice is listen to the UK fans in front, not the trollish guys who pump to pump. They’re usually the ones who know and you’ll easily recognize them. Low key, know the sport, explain in context why it’s not working and look at recruiting. It’s the lifeblood. If the guy can’t evaluate and recruit he can’t win. Also if a guy has been coaching for well over 10 years and has a bad record, believe him.

Yeah. When your main supporter is Nitro that should be red flag.
 

UKCowboys

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Yeah- what about your immature comments by repeatedly saying “your momma”. You’re an AH- but whatever. Bygones and all.
**** bygones where you are involved. Go back and look at the crap said to me when I made responses like that. If some folks talked to me in the real world like they do on this board they would be drinking soup for dinner
 

UKortho

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**** bygones where you are involved. Go back and look at the crap said to me when I made responses like that. If some folks talked to me in the real world like they do on this board they would be drinking soup for dinner

GFY.
 

UKGrad24

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Scroll back and see who I called for on a daily basis to be our coach....Bruce Pearl. I don't make the hires. I do support whoever has the gig. Guess what? Ill support whoever the new guy is once he has the gig and not cry like a little girl for two years. We end up in the same place whether positive or negative ace.
We actually don’t. When the fan base goes hard negative and sends a message, it ends it. Everyone “let’s see next year” and it sends a message that it’s okay we’re lowering the bar and being patient. We don’t have time for this. The entire fanbase should be going on year 2 of get him out. We should have revolted when he was hired and drove it out then.

You can take my advice or not. Everything I said is 100%.
 

UKCowboys

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You’re fine. It’s why I didn’t block you, you want to support UK and I think you’re younger and I was similar. I’m 40 now and have been ingrained in This sht for a long time. A lot of us have, and you just know a flop when you see it. It takes a very special coach to come into UK, after a guy like Calipari, and win. Mark does not have the record or the history to do that. And he won’t do it, he can’t, he doesn’t have that ability. If mark didn’t have millions to recruit he would be the worst coach we’ve ever seen bar none. He’s just lucky it’s NIL.

But we’re all living and learning. My advice is listen to the UK fans in front, not the trollish guys who pump to pump. They’re usually the ones who know and you’ll easily recognize them. Low key, know the sport, explain in context why it’s not working and look at recruiting. It’s the lifeblood. If the guy can’t evaluate and recruit he can’t win. Also if a guy has been coaching for well over 10 years and has a bad record, believe him.
I am actually older than you. Lived long enough to lose folks I thought would see me go first. Taught me that as much as I love the Blue, its still just a game, and I support people that coach and play here completely during the season. That doesn't make you a Pope lover, it makes you a rational human
 

UKGrad24

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I am actually older than you. Lived long enough to lose folks I thought would see me go first. Taught me that as much as I love the Blue, its still just a game, and I support people that coach and play here completely during the season. That doesn't make you a Pope lover, it makes you a rational human
You’re older than 40?
 

Phil_The_Music2

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I wanted Pope to work out because it would be best for the program if he had. Now we are in a terrible position. It's pretty obvious he's not going to win at a high level here because he just doesn't have good coaching instincts. He relies way too much on analytics. However, firing a coach after two seasons without some kind of scandal or epic fail is not ideal either. It really sucks.
 

RunninRichie

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I have been called a Pope Pumper this season, even though I thought he was a terrible hire at the time. I simply refuse to dog out the coach and the team wearing the Blue during the season. Stand behind them and fight till the end. And with MB here, a third year was always guaranteed, so again, support who we have.

But the season is over now, and we are going to have a new AD. Mark Pope should be fired tomorrow morning. He had injuries this year, no question, Ill give him that. But the team we do have is poorly coached. Iowa State is coached so much better than we are it isn't even funny. We have kids who have stepped up. DA and Oweh have been great this year. Chandler improved and Mo was really good. Pope gave them no help at all. The offense we run is ridiculous. We don't run shooters off screens, we don't back cut, we don't run pick and roll, we don't do a damn thing but run to spots and play one on one. Defensively, our fundamentals have been pathetic. We run under screens, get lost on cutters, we don't even play with our hands up on ball.
We don't block out, not one big blocks out. The only big we have that can board is Mo. We don't run quality sets on inbounds. We don't help on backside, we leave 3 point shooters wide open, we back off top shooters, we make idiotic fouls. We don't play high IQ. We are poorly coached.
Mark's substitution patterns and lineups are nonsense. He coached a terrible game today calling time outs, having sets out of time outs, not calling a damn TO when we got the 5 second call. He is just in over his head.
As far as our personnel, I think we have a lot of players that should not be given up on, because with a high caliber coach, several of these kids have potential. You played against one such coach today. I can name about 20 others if Pope gets fired that can turn this around, and they absolutely don't have to be named Hurley or Oats. We have to let Pope go and we have to get this freaking hire right
We told you all this for months.
 

LadyCaytIL

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Ok , I understand the wanting to wait until the season is over UKCowboys but please in the future maybe just say you'll give your judgement at the end of the year and not go after the people who are upset in the middle of the season. I understand your point of view for yourself but understand others will need to vent when the team is showing huge levels of stink
 

LadyCaytIL

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I wanted Pope to work out because it would be best for the program if he had. Now we are in a terrible position. It's pretty obvious he's not going to win at a high level here because he just doesn't have good coaching instincts. He relies way too much on analytics. However, firing a coach after two seasons without some kind of scandal or epic fail is not ideal either. It really sucks.
You dont fire a coach in this instance, you sweeten the pot to where the coach resigns . Personally I'd like Pitino to come back call it co coaching with Pope being a really high paid assistant and maybe he picks up some things and learns so he could actually go back to being a head coach when Pitino retires but I know thats a pipe dream that wont happen.

But if UNC fires a final four coach who had injuries in Davis because they know its not going to work, then we look like we just dont care about basketball at all if major changes arent made here at UK
 
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AllBall

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I have been called a Pope Pumper this season, even though I thought he was a terrible hire at the time. I simply refuse to dog out the coach and the team wearing the Blue during the season. Stand behind them and fight till the end. And with MB here, a third year was always guaranteed, so again, support who we have.

But the season is over now, and we are going to have a new AD. Mark Pope should be fired tomorrow morning. He had injuries this year, no question, Ill give him that. But the team we do have is poorly coached. Iowa State is coached so much better than we are it isn't even funny. We have kids who have stepped up. DA and Oweh have been great this year. Chandler improved and Mo was really good. Pope gave them no help at all. The offense we run is ridiculous. We don't run shooters off screens, we don't back cut, we don't run pick and roll, we don't do a damn thing but run to spots and play one on one. Defensively, our fundamentals have been pathetic. We run under screens, get lost on cutters, we don't even play with our hands up on ball.
We don't block out, not one big blocks out. The only big we have that can board is Mo. We don't run quality sets on inbounds. We don't help on backside, we leave 3 point shooters wide open, we back off top shooters, we make idiotic fouls. We don't play high IQ. We are poorly coached.
Mark's substitution patterns and lineups are nonsense. He coached a terrible game today calling time outs, having sets out of time outs, not calling a damn TO when we got the 5 second call. He is just in over his head.
As far as our personnel, I think we have a lot of players that should not be given up on, because with a high caliber coach, several of these kids have potential. You played against one such coach today. I can name about 20 others if Pope gets fired that can turn this around, and they absolutely don't have to be named Hurley or Oats. We have to let Pope go and we have to get this freaking hire right
I'd hire you compared to what I've seen. Good breakdown blast.
 
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