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I could see that fruity @NYC_Eer and his husband rushing out to buy one lol

You know Panasonic and Tesla just announced new batteries that have 5 times the present capacity. Will be exclusive to Tesla and use much less rare earth metals. It's coming, like it or not. Good or bad.
 

atlkvb

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Hey omg not knocking electric cars at all , they do have there place. Wouldn't take one across country unless I had time to kill

EVs as short distance urban commuter options make some sense. But as you mentioned, camping, hauling trailers, heavy loads, making cross country trips, and simply the higher costs of the vehicles themselves are all a drag on EVs becoming the popular choices environmentalist Nazis prefer.
 

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EVs as short distance urban commuter options make some sense. But as you mentioned, camping, hauling trailers, heavy loads, making cross country trips, and simply the higher costs of the vehicles themselves are all a drag on EVs becoming the popular choices environmentalist Nazis prefer.
At this time I agree, I'm hoping the price comes down for the initial investment. It would benefit my wife who drives 140 miles rd trip to work .
We are talking about getting her a hybrid now , but the cost & availability is holding us back . This coming from a pipeline welder.
 

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At this time I agree, I'm hoping the price comes down for the initial investment. It would benefit my wife who drives 140 miles rd trip to work .
We are talking about getting her a hybrid now , but the cost & availability is holding us back . This coming from a pipeline welder.
EV's will come. But not before we figure out a way to make them cheaper and last longer between charges.
 

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I could see that fruity @NYC_Eer and his husband rushing out to buy one lol

They are building a comprehensive EV charging infrastructure already you moron. Its possible to drive across the country now, but you need to plan out where the charging stations are. There are a lot of rental homes that come w/ charging stations...you can sort by it on AirBNB and other sites.

Hertz just bought over $2B of Teslas. Ford, GM, Volkswagen (Audi, etc), and Daimler have all committed to going EV in the coming years. Ford's stock has increased 24% almost solely because of it. Keep your head in the sand and keep getting your info from FirstonTV on Twitter. Your dumb *** will be trying to find a gas station 10 years from now.

Edit: OP apparently can't afford a plane ticket to LA.
 
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At 50 & about 2 years from retirement, 10 years from now I wont be going 10 miles from the house. Gonna need a electric atv
 

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They are building a comprehensive EV charging infrastructure already you moron. Its possible to drive across the country now, but you need to plan out where the charging stations are. There are a lot of rental homes that come w/ charging stations...you can sort by it on AirBNB and other sites.

Hertz just bought over $2B of Teslas. Ford, GM, Volkswagen (Audi, etc), and Daimler have all committed to going EV in the coming years. Ford's stock has increased 24% almost solely because of it. Keep your head in the sand and keep getting your info from FirstonTV on Twitter. Your dumb *** will be trying to find a gas station 10 years from now.

Edit: OP apparently can't afford a plane ticket to LA.
Would never go to LA. Can’t stand libtards. Electric cars😂😂. Rates right up there with global warming.
 

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Funny because Elon Musk owns Tesla and he’s not a liberal. They already started trashing him in the msm for moving his factory out of California to Texas. And the latest, he doesn’t support the Biden wealthy tax plan that would penalize him 10 billion per year in taxes.
 

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They are building a comprehensive EV charging infrastructure already you moron. Its possible to drive across the country now, but you need to plan out where the charging stations are. There are a lot of rental homes that come w/ charging stations...you can sort by it on AirBNB and other sites.

Hertz just bought over $2B of Teslas. Ford, GM, Volkswagen (Audi, etc), and Daimler have all committed to going EV in the coming years. Ford's stock has increased 24% almost solely because of it. Keep your head in the sand and keep getting your info from FirstonTV on Twitter. Your dumb *** will be trying to find a gas station 10 years from now.

Edit: OP apparently can't afford a plane ticket to LA.
Our most popular EV choice right now is the Mustang. However also selling well are Hybrid Escapes, and the new all EV F-150 (6 month wait list) As I said...EV's are in our future if for no other reason the major manufacturers have made the financial investments to move away from all gasoline lineups. It's strictly a matter of having the right product mix to meet market demand right now.

EV's will really take off once their overall costs comes more line with ICE vehicles...that includes btw maintenance & upkeep, service & parts availability, and most importantly costs of power generation.

Just like flat screen T-V's...the prices of EV's will eventually come down and once we solve the battery life issues, all we need to do is once again make America energy independent by producing low cost abundant electricity (maybe using our almost limitless supply of coal?) :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

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Our most popular EV choice right now is the Mustang. However also selling well are Hybrid Escapes, and the new all EV F-150 (6 month wait list) As I said...EV's are in our future if for no other reason the major manufacturers have made the financial investments to move away from all gasoline lineups. It's strictly a matter of having the right product mix to meet market demand right now.

EV's will really take off once their overall costs comes more line with ICE vehicles...that includes btw maintenance & upkeep, service & parts availability, and most importantly costs of power generation.

Just like flat screen T-V's...the prices of EV's will eventually come down and once we solve the battery life issues, all we need to do is once again make America energy independent by producing low cost abundant electricity (maybe using our almost limitless supply of coal?) :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Oh he knows about batteries…. His husband uses them in his dildos
 

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Oh he knows about batteries…. His husband uses them in his dildos
 

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obiden inc. PURPOSELY raised the price on oil to sell these EVs to the sheep...



That scale pisses me off because there is no market driven reason for crude prices to be escalating like that other than failed economic policies. Trump's unarguably successful policies of American energy independence were driving crude oil prices down dramatically and establishing US dominance in worldwide markets. OPEC was essentially powerless. Until creepy Joe was appointed to run things.
 
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They are building a comprehensive EV charging infrastructure already you moron. Its possible to drive across the country now, but you need to plan out where the charging stations are. There are a lot of rental homes that come w/ charging stations...you can sort by it on AirBNB and other sites.

Hertz just bought over $2B of Teslas. Ford, GM, Volkswagen (Audi, etc), and Daimler have all committed to going EV in the coming years. Ford's stock has increased 24% almost solely because of it. Keep your head in the sand and keep getting your info from FirstonTV on Twitter. Your dumb *** will be trying to find a gas station 10 years from now.

Edit: OP apparently can't afford a plane ticket to LA.
Aww, did Trump keep you up last night?
 

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I worked with someone who did a family road trip from Charleston, SC to Colorado Springs, CO in their new Tesla. I asked about the process, and they said it was not much different than driving a regular car. The stops were every couple of hundred miles, they planned them out, and the fast charging stations don't take too long to get you back up to full charge. They did the drive in 3 days with 2 kids. They went back via her hometown in Ohio.

I'm still driving a gas-drinkin', piston-clinkin', air-polutin', smoke-belchin' 4-wheeled buggy. I thought I'd share that story of a friend's experience with a long trip in an EV. I have not yet purchased or driven an EV, unless you count a golf cart.
 

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They are building a comprehensive EV charging infrastructure already you moron. Its possible to drive across the country now, but you need to plan out where the charging stations are. There are a lot of rental homes that come w/ charging stations...you can sort by it on AirBNB and other sites.

Hertz just bought over $2B of Teslas. Ford, GM, Volkswagen (Audi, etc), and Daimler have all committed to going EV in the coming years. Ford's stock has increased 24% almost solely because of it. Keep your head in the sand and keep getting your info from FirstonTV on Twitter. Your dumb *** will be trying to find a gas station 10 years from now.

Edit: OP apparently can't afford a plane ticket to LA.
typical lib answer, lets take away gas cars so you have to catch a plane to go cross country. How are those electric planes doing these days. What 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡
 

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I worked with someone who did a family road trip from Charleston, SC to Colorado Springs, CO in their new Tesla. I asked about the process, and they said it was not much different than driving a regular car. The stops were every couple of hundred miles, they planned them out, and the fast charging stations don't take too long to get you back up to full charge. They did the drive in 3 days with 2 kids. They went back via her hometown in Ohio.

I'm still driving a gas-drinkin', piston-clinkin', air-polutin', smoke-belchin' 4-wheeled buggy. I thought I'd share that story of a friend's experience with a long trip in an EV. I have not yet purchased or driven an EV, unless you count a golf cart.
Not slamming you Mule but I find this hard to believe. it 1,690 mile from Charleston to Colorado Springs. The average Tesla battery will last about 250 miles. There are currently three ways to charge the Tesla:

Here are the estimates of how long it takes to fully charge a tesla:

  • Level 1 (120 V): 20 to 40 hours
  • Level 2 (240 V): 8 to 12 hours
  • Level 3 (480 V): 15 to 25 minutes
Leve 2 is what you find at hotels and most public charging stations. Level three is a proprietary charging system just developed by Tesla that uses DC instead of AC. It is in very few locations as it takes a ton of energy and some seriously hefty wiring ~4.8 KW/DC that is a lot. I seen no why they could have possibly managed almost 600 miles a day, the numbers just don't work out.
 

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Not slamming you Mule but I find this hard to believe. it 1,690 mile from Charleston to Colorado Springs. The average Tesla battery will last about 250 miles. There are currently three ways to charge the Tesla:

Here are the estimates of how long it takes to fully charge a tesla:

  • Level 1 (120 V): 20 to 40 hours
  • Level 2 (240 V): 8 to 12 hours
  • Level 3 (480 V): 15 to 25 minutes
Leve 2 is what you find at hotels and most public charging stations. Level three is a proprietary charging system just developed by Tesla that uses DC instead of AC. It is in very few locations as it takes a ton of energy and some seriously hefty wiring ~4.8 KW/DC that is a lot. I seen no why they could have possibly managed almost 600 miles a day, the numbers just don't work out.
Grimreaper and NVeers are long on rotary phones and buggy whips.
 

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Our most popular EV choice right now is the Mustang. However also selling well are Hybrid Escapes, and the new all EV F-150 (6 month wait list) As I said...EV's are in our future if for no other reason the major manufacturers have made the financial investments to move away from all gasoline lineups. It's strictly a matter of having the right product mix to meet market demand right now.

EV's will really take off once their overall costs comes more line with ICE vehicles...that includes btw maintenance & upkeep, service & parts availability, and most importantly costs of power generation.

Just like flat screen T-V's...the prices of EV's will eventually come down and once we solve the battery life issues, all we need to do is once again make America energy independent by producing low cost abundant electricity (maybe using our almost limitless supply of coal?) :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Yeah. Sounds like DIY Vehicle repair is going to go out the window for most people now with the electric cars. More **** you just have to depend on other people for And a way to attack the lower and middle class.
 

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Not slamming you Mule but I find this hard to believe. it 1,690 mile from Charleston to Colorado Springs. The average Tesla battery will last about 250 miles. There are currently three ways to charge the Tesla:

Here are the estimates of how long it takes to fully charge a tesla:

  • Level 1 (120 V): 20 to 40 hours
  • Level 2 (240 V): 8 to 12 hours
  • Level 3 (480 V): 15 to 25 minutes
Leve 2 is what you find at hotels and most public charging stations. Level three is a proprietary charging system just developed by Tesla that uses DC instead of AC. It is in very few locations as it takes a ton of energy and some seriously hefty wiring ~4.8 KW/DC that is a lot. I seen no why they could have possibly managed almost 600 miles a day, the numbers just don't work out.
We will be underwater by then according to the libtards. 😂😂😂
 

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Not slamming you Mule but I find this hard to believe. it 1,690 mile from Charleston to Colorado Springs. The average Tesla battery will last about 250 miles. There are currently three ways to charge the Tesla:

Here are the estimates of how long it takes to fully charge a tesla:

  • Level 1 (120 V): 20 to 40 hours
  • Level 2 (240 V): 8 to 12 hours
  • Level 3 (480 V): 15 to 25 minutes
Leve 2 is what you find at hotels and most public charging stations. Level three is a proprietary charging system just developed by Tesla that uses DC instead of AC. It is in very few locations as it takes a ton of energy and some seriously hefty wiring ~4.8 KW/DC that is a lot. I seen no why they could have possibly managed almost 600 miles a day, the numbers just don't work out.
I pulled up a map on Tesla, and they were driving a Tesla. It seems possible to go make that trip using only Level 3 (Super Chargers). They do get a little more sparse as you head through Kansas (or whatever path you choose to get across the plains). I did ask if it was difficult to make it cross-country like that. It's one of my concerns with moving to an EV. They seemed to think it was easy. I should also note that her husband seemed to be completely geeked out with the whole EV thing, so he was excited to deal with the trip planning.

Basically, I still don't think you can jump in your EV and drive across the country without planning things out at least a little. You can do that in your regular car, whether that's a good idea or not.
 

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Yeah. Sounds like DIY Vehicle repair is going to go out the window for most people now with the electric cars. More **** you just have to depend on other people for And a way to attack the lower and middle class.
For a large part, DIY vehicle repair is a thing of the past in many ways. The EV argument is that you have much less regular maintenance, so meantime between repairs is longer. That results in lower operating costs after purchase. I don't have data to back that up, so take it with a grain of salt. And I'm sure regular blinker fluid changes will be scheduled as the profit margins from sales get smaller per car.
 

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We will be underwater by then according to the libtards. 😂😂😂
Like I said earlier ITT, until the drive range/charging issues are resolved for EVs, they will just be a niche market segment for a small minority of automobile purchasers. Those will be folks who are mostly affluent and living in large densely populated areas where those vehicles can be charged at or near their places of employment.
 

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For a large part, DIY vehicle repair is a thing of the past in many ways. The EV argument is that you have much less regular maintenance, so meantime between repairs is longer. That results in lower operating costs after purchase. I don't have data to back that up, so take it with a grain of salt. And I'm sure regular blinker fluid changes will be scheduled as the profit margins from sales get smaller per car.
The electrical systems have fewer parts, but servicing them and particularly finding components like transducers and circuit boards can be a real pain. However the biggest problem servicing EVs is finding enough trained or qualified service technicians to work on them. Your average shade tree Uncle has no clue how to repair a servo motor on an EV.😏
 

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Like I said earlier ITT, until the drive range/charging issues are resolved for EVs, they will just be a niche market segment for a small minority of automobile purchasers. Those will be folks who are mostly affluent and living in large densely populated areas where those vehicles can be charged at or near their places of employment.
Agreed. They are great for a home owner with enough garage space for charging. Lord forbid someone live in an apartment or in a house with no off-street parking. That makes the home charging a pain. You can argue that those folks could simply go to the local charging station, although that process, even with the level 3 chargers, is not nearly a quick as stopping to fill up the tank.
 

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Well clown get our your slide rule and find something wrong with my numbers.
Like you’d understand math. The EV (that stands for electric vehicle) train has left the station. Of course you don’t understand that. The argument isn’t that the charging infrastructure exists now you dope.
 

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Not slamming you Mule but I find this hard to believe. it 1,690 mile from Charleston to Colorado Springs. The average Tesla battery will last about 250 miles. There are currently three ways to charge the Tesla:

Here are the estimates of how long it takes to fully charge a tesla:

  • Level 1 (120 V): 20 to 40 hours
  • Level 2 (240 V): 8 to 12 hours
  • Level 3 (480 V): 15 to 25 minutes
Leve 2 is what you find at hotels and most public charging stations. Level three is a proprietary charging system just developed by Tesla that uses DC instead of AC. It is in very few locations as it takes a ton of energy and some seriously hefty wiring ~4.8 KW/DC that is a lot. I seen no why they could have possibly managed almost 600 miles a day, the numbers just don't work out.
Yea. I tend to call BS on it as well.
 

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Like you’d understand math. The EV (that stands for electric vehicle) train has left the station. Of course you don’t understand that. The argument isn’t that the charging infrastructure exists now you dope.
Translation. I can’t.
 

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Yea. I tend to call BS on it as well.
I went to Tesla's site, and they have a trip planning tool. I had it plan a trip from Charleston, SC to Colorado Springs, CO. They claim that's a 35 hour trip including nearly 6 hours of charging time spread out over 17 different stations. The longest charging time was 45 minutes in Goodland, KS.
 

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They are building a comprehensive EV charging infrastructure already you moron. Its possible to drive across the country now, but you need to plan out where the charging stations are. There are a lot of rental homes that come w/ charging stations...you can sort by it on AirBNB and other sites.

Hertz just bought over $2B of Teslas. Ford, GM, Volkswagen (Audi, etc), and Daimler have all committed to going EV in the coming years. Ford's stock has increased 24% almost solely because of it. Keep your head in the sand and keep getting your info from FirstonTV on Twitter. Your dumb *** will be trying to find a gas station 10 years from now.

Edit: OP apparently can't afford a plane ticket to LA.
And Toyota, the largest automaker in the world keeps telling everyone we are 20 years away from having enough electic capacity to convert 25% of our auto's to EV....Deloitte is estimating that by 2030 EV will have about 25% of the market and then stagnate. I guess 25% is good, but right now unless they start to use the new technology in the UFO's we are seeing...
 

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Agreed. They are great for a home owner with enough garage space for charging. Lord forbid someone live in an apartment or in a house with no off-street parking. That makes the home charging a pain. You can argue that those folks could simply go to the local charging station, although that process, even with the level 3 chargers, is not nearly a quick as stopping to fill up the tank.
My neighbor has a Tesla, and has installed a charging station in his garage. It takes over 8 hours to fully charge it.
 

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I went to Tesla's site, and they have a trip planning tool. I had it plan a trip from Charleston, SC to Colorado Springs, CO. They claim that's a 35 hour trip including nearly 6 hours of charging time spread out over 17 different stations. The longest charging time was 45 minutes in Goodland, KS.
I have several friends with Teslas. They’ve said all it takes is a little planning, but they’ve never had an issue as long as you think things through before hand.

I have 3 kids and enough to deal with on trips. I wouldn’t want to deal with it. I also don’t want to pay the EV premium at this point…generally $20k more for an EV equivalent for a BMW, Audi, etc. But in a few years once the infrastructure is in place and the cost is more reasonable they’ll be ubiquitous.

To laugh at RVs means you aren’t paying attention to the news.
 

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I have several friends with Teslas. They’ve said all it takes is a little planning, but they’ve never had an issue as long as you think things through before hand.

I have 3 kids and enough to deal with on trips. I wouldn’t want to deal with it. I also don’t want to pay the EV premium at this point…generally $20k more for an EV equivalent for a BMW, Audi, etc. But in a few years once the infrastructure is in place and the cost is more reasonable they’ll be ubiquitous.

To laugh at RVs means you aren’t paying attention to the news.
You don’t have friends. 😂😂😂. ******* douche
 

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I pulled up a map on Tesla, and they were driving a Tesla. It seems possible to go make that trip using only Level 3 (Super Chargers). They do get a little more sparse as you head through Kansas (or whatever path you choose to get across the plains). I did ask if it was difficult to make it cross-country like that. It's one of my concerns with moving to an EV. They seemed to think it was easy. I should also note that her husband seemed to be completely geeked out with the whole EV thing, so he was excited to deal with the trip planning.

Basically, I still don't think you can jump in your EV and drive across the country without planning things out at least a little. You can do that in your regular car, whether that's a good idea or not.
Maybe they are ahead of schedule getting the stage 3 chargers in. I stand corrected.
 

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I have to laugh at these libtards promoting electric cars yet fail to understand the guy building them is not a libtard. He’s an innovator but first and foremost, he’s a businessman. Period. I laugh because you fell for the “it’s for the environment” without realizing your libtard politicians have us dependent on foreign oil. You really think we’re gonna be oil free in the near future? Lol. Your democrats and a lot of our Republican Party are getting kickbacks from those countries to keep us dependent on that oil. Otherwise, the keystone pipeline would be still going, we’d still be energy independent, and you’d still be paying $1.79 a gallon.