EJ gone
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I know man, but in the process of doing nothing but defending my opinions, I came off as the bad guy. Dudes can hide behind their keyboards and stir the pot, but if you fire back, You get locked out of threads and find nastygrams in your message box.
I'll admit I went a little too far at times, but when 10 Cal fans are just stirring up the same arguement over and over, you can only take so much.
I think after this round of early departures, some of those that were blasting me might start to understand what I was talking about. This isn't sustainable and if you want titles, find another team, because it ain't going to happen if this continues. It's not a knock on Cal, I actually think he would own college-basketball if he had Juniors and Seniors, especially with the resources and facilities UK has.
What a joke, lose 8 players off this team. Really only one guy is a guaranteed first rounder, you could make an argument for 3 of them. Richards I also understand and he stayed three years which is cool. Multiple second round at best, a transfer who would have played a big role IMO. Cal just needs to do whatever he needs to and sign the entire top 25 every year now. If they gonna leave get the best of the best.
Agree.
I wonder what Cal truly thinks about this. I mean, he is the one that has to go through the frustrations every year. You can see just how hard he has to work to whip a young/inexperienced team into shape. It looks pretty exhausting. He also has other commitments and recruiting on his plate.
If he had a veteran squad, he wouldn't have to kill himself every year.
I know he loves it when dudes get first round draft picks. He loves draft day, but this isn't the same. Only Maxey is going first round. This definitely isn't what Cal had in mind when he started this whole thing, but it's gone off the rails. The NBA and the GL are now working against him. Some thanks huh?
If I'm Cal, I take the top 10 guys if I can get them, then focus on 4* guys. I would avoid the 5* guys that only have size and athletesism going for them. Too many of those guys have no basketball IQ, stink it up for a season, then leave.
It'll be interesting to see what Cal does from here on out. The landscape is changing and it seems like everyone out there is working against him. We've known the NCAA was working against him for quite some time, but now the NBA and the GL have joined in.
Sorry for the long post.
Like I posted weeks ago. The rumors in Lexington were that EJ was going somewhere else regardless.
Another lie. I've been one of the few hoping that he returned. In fact, earlier in this thread, I was trying to convince someone that EJ is too talented to not make huge improvements like NR did. Nobody thought NR was going to be any good after his sophomore year. EJ is further ahead in his development than NR was at this point.
I wanted EJ back here. Heck, I wanted all of them back, including Hagans.
You need to start trolling better. You appear to lump groups of people together and think that entire group shares the same opinions on everything. IDK, create a damn spreadsheet. Do something, because you're usually way wrong when you troll.
Cal and UK will be fine. If we get Haarms we will be a top 5 team. Of course you may go crazy when early in the year we may lose to someone like Evansville.
I was one hoping EJ would come back because I thought he might make a big leap like Nick did, but I also never thought he would be back. He tried too hard to leave last year.
Oh I know. I have been called everything under the sun on here. Guess what tho, I refuse to take it. I just give back as good as ai get. Seriously tho, I have wondered why some of them escape the ban, because all some of them do is chase other posters around hurling insults and throwing temper tantrums.
So it's just me that would be upset if we lost to Evansville??? Hilarious.
Same here. I knew he was leaving, but since he's not even good enough (righ now) to compete in the GL, I was hoping he would go against the grain and come back.
I'm a moderate "everything is awesome" guy, and I think this is one of maybe 3 times in the last decade that the eeyores on this board have been fair in their moping.
Well, the mods are human, they have opinions too and I'm sure they don't agree with my takes. That's fine, I just have to take a different approach is all.
Yeah, because it's completely crazy for a UK fan to be upset when UK suffers it's worst loss in program history. You should put out a list of rules we can follow so that we can all be as good a UK fan as you are.
EJ coming back was not going to help the post next year. EJ is a less than marginal talent for a role player. Not a knock on the kids he as a person but just evaluation of his talent. His potential that so many have spoken of has never came to fruition even remotely. Having an occasional “good” game doesn’t mean you have potential to be an elite player that can play at the next level. He will never see an NBA floor unless he does a complete 180 in the next few years. Not sure he could dominate in a competitive rec league currently.
Good luck EJ, you’re going to need it. I was really looking forward to seeing him develop next season. I really feel like he should have come back to become a better prospect because there is no way he’s getting drafted this year.
Since you continue to berate EJ and say he is not a good player then you should be very happy he is leaving.
If we lose to the Evansville's and Utah's then Cal should not be spouting off about how we're the gold standard in college basketball. If I could count how many times people on here said the Evansville game didn't matter. Well it did matter. In fact that game alone was probably going to drop us 2 seed lines in the tourney. The regular season does matter if we are the gold standard and the odds say the better regular season you have, the better tournament run you will have. In fact, I will link an article to show the correlation.
https://bracketresearch.com/the-dna...ship-team/seeds-of-ncaa-tournament-champions/
I'll give a quick rundown. Over the past 35 years: 22 champs were 1 seeds. Five were 2 seeds. Four were 3 seeds. One 4 seed. One 6 seed. One 7 seed. One 8 seed. That's it. So the next time I hear somebody say the regular season doesn't matter I will link this article to prove otherwise.
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One loss does not a season make. Nobody said the regular season does not matter. It matters. In fact we won the SEC regular season championship. So that one loss didn't hurt as much as you want to protray it.
Yes and the committee thought so highly of us winning the weak SEC that we were going to be rewarded with probably a 4 seed. The SEC had one other good, not great team. The rest of the league was trash.
I feel like there was more to the pressure for EJ to leave. He runs like he has arthritis. I don't think he is as healthy as a normal kid his age. It may be more like Orton where they are looking to cash in on some kind of payday before his health and fitness are a major roadblock.
Yeah, he's not good enough to go to the GL and do well enough to get to the NBA. That's where he ultimately wants to go.
In the GL, he will be competing against grown men that are bigger, stronger and tougher. He isn't ready for that.
Do you get it now or do you need me to explain it further?
The people saying "glad he’s gone" are the ones trashing him. I CLEARLY said I wanted him back at UK. He's not ready for the situation he just.put himself in.
Do better, you obviously don't understand what actual criticism and "trashing" is.
Not good enough for the G league is criticizism. Believe it or not. Maybe in your mind that is praise but not to most members on this board.
No it's not. It means he’s not ready for that situation. This might be too much for you to understand, but what I'm saying is very true.
It is not criticizing if it is a simple evaluation. It's like grading egg sizes to put them in a package. The small don't go in the large crate.
That is not criticism. He's simply saying EJ was not even a good college player so how the heck does he think he's going to fare in the G-League? Saying he was not a good college player is a fact, unlike your opinion.
Maybe Cal thinks he was a good college player. You can be a good college player and not score a lot of points. Maybe Cal liked other parts of his game. He must have liked something. EJ sure started a lot of games to not be a good college player.
I could care less what his projections are for pro ball. Although his performance was lackluster, I think we can all agree a lot of that was attributed to his motor. After his dad’s comments, I think we now know why he had motor issues. However, EJ was further along in his development than Nick was after their Sophomore seasons. It’s not unreasonable to expect EJ to come back and average a 12 and 8 type season. That’s exactly what we’re left scrambling to find at this very moment.
You must be replying to someone that I blessedly have on ignore.
I have thought kL was 420 bro because tries too hard to be something he evidently is not.
You could be right. The "420" part might explain some of the off the wall posts.