Egg Brawl

[fang]

Rewatching the egg bowl and was slo-moing the brawl. I noticed (for the first time) the highway patrol up in the middle of it, is that really a good idea? What happens if some LEO gets knocked over and/or injured in a scrum between players? Criminal charges? I know the head coaches have an MHP escort but dont know what the authorized procedures are for an on field fight. My personal opinion is they stay out of it.

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

Rewatching the egg bowl and was slo-moing the brawl. I noticed (for the first time) the highway patrol up in the middle of it, is that really a good idea? What happens if some LEO gets knocked over and/or injured in a scrum between players? Criminal charges? I know the head coaches have an MHP escort but dont know what the authorized procedures are for an on field fight. My personal opinion is they stay out of it.

Yeah they need to stay out of it. All we need is one of them morons to pull a weapon out to ruin that.

 

[Coledawg]

Yeah they need to stay out of it. All we need is one of them morons to pull a weapon out to ruin that.

Oh no, not another stupid post bleating against the Police.

 

[SwampDawg]

Yeah, when you break down in Jackson one night I hope one of them morons just waves to you and keeps on going.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

Rewatching the egg bowl and was slo-moing the brawl. I noticed (for the first time) the highway patrol up in the middle of it, is that really a good idea? What happens if some LEO gets knocked over and/or injured in a scrum between players? Criminal charges? I know the head coaches have an MHP escort but dont know what the authorized procedures are for an on field fight. My personal opinion is they stay out of it.

So, what you are saying is that when a fight breaks out, you want law enforcement to take a step back and say not my problem? I can only guess that you got into that bowl of eggnog that has been left out since Christmas Eve and are hallucinating from the combination of alcohol and listeria, because this stupidity has to be in the top 10 of things ever suggested on this board.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

The quicker they pull their gun and fire a bullet up into the air, the quicker we can stop all the hooligan shenanigans. "Get back to the game, MFer's!" We need more cops at the game for more than just keeping people safe.

 

[msudawg12]

The quicker they pull their gun and fire a bullet up into the air, the quicker we can stop all the hooligan shenanigans. "Get back to the game, MFer's!" We need more cops at the game for more than just keeping people safe.

What goes up, must come down

 

[ArcherSPS]

The quicker they pull their gun and fire a bullet up into the air, the quicker we can stop all the hooligan shenanigans. "Get back to the game, MFer's!" We need more cops at the game for more than just keeping people safe.

Let’s pump the brakes, Buford Pusser.*

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

Yeah, when you break down in Jackson one night I hope one of them morons just waves to you and keeps on going.

Heh They do that anyway unless they suspect someone’s been drinking and then they are quick to pullover and see if you need any help.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

At what point do you police hatin' types actually blame the players? I really want to know the answer to this. It seems as if you're ok with certain people committing crimes and getting away with it because reasons.

 

[GloryDawg]

Yeah, when you break down in Jackson one night I hope one of them morons just waves to you and keeps on going.

I have witness that happening. I have also seen JPD throw cigarettes butts out the window. I have seen them turn the blue lights on just to get through a red light and once across they turn it off and drive slow.

I respect police. I think they are over worked and under paid but I do know there are some who are no good.

 

[tired]

Maroon lives matter

 

[johnson86-1]

So, what you are saying is that when a fight breaks out, you want law enforcement to take a step back and say not my problem? I can only guess that you got into that bowl of eggnog that has been left out since Christmas Eve and are hallucinating from the combination of alcohol and listeria, because this stupidity has to be in the top 10 of things ever suggested on this board.

I'm not sure what the right approach is, but it doesn't seem to be a stupid position to want the refs to handle on field fights. That's what happens 99% of the time? I get the other side of the argument that it's a rivalry game and if you let the refs handle it and they can't and the bench gets really involved, then the HP may not be able to quash it. But neither approach seems stupid to me.

 

[johnson86-1]

At what point do you police hatin' types actually blame the players? I really want to know the answer to this. It seems as if you're ok with certain people committing crimes and getting away with it because reasons.

Do you really want on field fights prosecuted as crimes? I get that a certain point they need to be, but to me, the vast majority of on field scuffles and even fights don't seem to fall into that category.

 

[512taylor]

Yeah they need to stay out of it. All we need is one of them morons to pull a weapon out to ruin that.

I wonder if the families of all those killed a while back at that Florida high school share your opinion?

 

[engie]

Is it just me or has this place gotten a lot dumber lately?

 

[Drebin]

Is it just me or has this place gotten a lot dumber lately?

You need to post more.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Falling bullets aren't very likely to be lethal. Could still hurt you, but not likely to be deadly.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

Do you really want on field fights prosecuted as crimes? I get that a certain point they need to be, but to me, the vast majority of on field scuffles and even fights don't seem to fall into that category.

If that fight occurred outside the stadium after the game, those guys are going to jail. Yet, in this case, it's all caught on TV, we have proof, but somehow the cops need to stay out of it and let them fight (i.e. continue to commit the crime).

Look I get the point, it's not a big deal, etc. I'm no looney rules monger. I'm simply saying that if you want to demonize someone, you should point toward criminals before cops, at least at first. We've gotten to the point in this country where criminals are victims and cops are aggressors in the public eye. That's unbelievable, but maybe it's just me. I'm no bleeding heart liberal, for sure.

 

[Miketice]

Yeah it's stupid. But...

So, what you are saying is that when a fight breaks out, you want law enforcement to take a step back and say not my problem? I can only guess that you got into that bowl of eggnog that has been left out since Christmas Eve and are hallucinating from the combination of alcohol and listeria, because this stupidity has to be in the top 10 of things ever suggested on this board.

top ten worst suggestions on THIS board?

 

[Miketice]

Nah

Is it just me or has this place gotten a lot dumber lately?

I'm 100% sure it's exactly the same amount of dubassery

 

[johnson86-1]

If that fight occurred outside the stadium after the game, those guys are going to jail. Yet, in this case, it's all caught on TV, we have proof, but somehow the cops need to stay out of it and let them fight (i.e. continue to commit the crime).

Because it occurred on the field. And there wasn't anything particularly egregious. There was a tussle at the end of the play and then some shoving and a couple of shoves/hits to helmets/facemasks. Some extracurricular shoving/contact is inherent in the game. Certainly there is a line drawing exercise that can be difficult in some cases, but this isn't one of those cases.

Look I get the point, it's not a big deal, etc. I'm no looney rules monger. I'm simply saying that if you want to demonize someone, you should point toward criminals before cops, at least at first. We've gotten to the point in this country where criminals are victims and cops are aggressors in the public eye. That's unbelievable, but maybe it's just me. I'm no bleeding heart liberal, for sure.

There have been a couple of stupid statements, but wanting law enforcement to let officials handle it is not demonizing law enforcement. It's an escalation to bring LEO into it. Doesn't matter if they don't pull their gun in this instance, it's still an escalation just involving armed LEOs. Maybe that's the right thing to do, but it doesn't seem obvious to me that it is and it certainly isn't demonizing them to have the opinion that on field skirmishes should be hanlded by refs unless and until it escalates to the point that serious bodily injury is likely to result.

 

[johnson86-1]

Is it just me or has this place gotten a lot dumber lately?

Well, in fairness, it should be getting dumber as the average birth date of the posters moves further away from the mid 1970's.

https://www.sciencealert.com/iq-sco...y-intelligence-boom-flynn-effect-intelligence

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Is it just me or has this place gotten a lot dumber lately?

Yeah since August of 2017 something has been happening that made has the board about 1,186 (and counting) posts more annoying.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

Well, in fairness, it should be getting dumber as the average birth date of the posters moves further away from the mid 1970's.

https://www.sciencealert.com/iq-sco...y-intelligence-boom-flynn-effect-intelligence

Funny enough, that probably mirrors the failing marriage rates and rising (if not still rising, at least very very high) divorce rates.

#familyunitisgoodnstuff

 

[StillTbonewannabe]

Funny enough, that probably mirrors the failing marriage rates and rising (if not still rising, at least very very high) divorce rates.

#familyunitisgoodnstuff

Happily married guy here but I think part of the problem with failing marriages is the fact that it is easier to get caught cheating now. Text messages and social media is catching cheating spouses where back in the day, the spouse got away with more.

I also think more people are thinking the grass is greener on the other side due to social media. People used to only get jealous of people they directly saw but now it is widened the amount of people you see on a daily basis.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Divorce rates are about as low now as they've been since the 60s.

Shot way up in the 70s, started to come down in the 90s. A lot more people realizing it's not healthy to rush into marriage just because you're "supposed to." I'm happily married, but I'd never encourage anyone to get married who's not 100% committed to it (pregnant or not) because that's how you end up bitterly divorced.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

The quicker they pull their gun and fire a bullet up into the air, the quicker we can stop all the hooligan shenanigans. "Get back to the game, MFer's!" We need more cops at the game for more than just keeping people safe.

Except they never fire in the air. They fire at body mass.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Anyone who encourages "warning shots" is clueless.

That's a good way to get reprimanded. Also, what goes up must come down.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Has there ever been a CFB fight where police wouldn't have been excessive?

You've got a bunch of dudes in full body armor slapping each other's specially made impact reducing headgear. You want unarmored yet armed cops throwing themselves in the middle of that?

How can that possibly do more good than harm? Best case you're hoping nobody gets arrested or shot by a cop, when all you really needed was a few coaches and refs putting hands on shoulders and screaming "break it up!"

They're students. This isn't The Longest Yard.

 

[johnson86-1]

Happily married guy here but I think part of the problem with failing marriages is the fact that it is easier to get caught cheating now. Text messages and social media is catching cheating spouses where back in the day, the spouse got away with more.

I also think more people are thinking the grass is greener on the other side due to social media. People used to only get jealous of people they directly saw but now it is widened the amount of people you see on a daily basis.

Well, divorce rates have plateaued or fallen off (and they were never as bad as advertised for first time marriages). Marriage rates have fallen though, so you have more kids born out of wedlock (even though teen pregnancies have fallen). Also people are becoming parents later, which brings an elevated risk of developmental issues and so maybe also includes a decrease in sperm/egg quality in general? Another speculation is that it's associated with an increase in screentime at an earlier age. Another speculation is that it's just a change in the mix of people having kids and how many kids they are having (i.e., the idiocracy theory), but the Norway study cited tracks within families, so at least in Norway, there's something else going on beyond that.

Personally, I'm pretty sure it's caused by all the government policies I disagree with and the politicians that implement them.

 

[13thEagle]

The quicker they pull their gun and fire a bullet up into the air, the quicker we can stop all the hooligan shenanigans. "Get back to the game, MFer's!" We need more cops at the game for more than just keeping people safe.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

It has been my experience that a warning shot clears up matters pretty dang quick.

 

[turkish]

Falling bullets aren't very likely to be lethal. Could still hurt you, but not likely to be deadly.

Yeah, smart guy, but what about a falling AR15 bullet?**

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

I wonder if the families of all those killed a while back at that Florida high school share your opinion?

Yeah because a 17ing minor altercation during a football game is the same as a school shooting dumbass.

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

So, what you are saying is that when a fight breaks out, you want law enforcement to take a step back and say not my problem? I can only guess that you got into that bowl of eggnog that has been left out since Christmas Eve and are hallucinating from the combination of alcohol and listeria, because this stupidity has to be in the top 10 of things ever suggested on this board.

Nah this isn’t remotely stupid. This was a minor altercation among players. A Bunch of slap fighting. Not a damn all out back alley fight with lead pipes and other weapons.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

Nah this isn’t remotely stupid. This was a minor altercation among players. A Bunch of slap fighting. Not a damn all out back alley fight with lead pipes and other weapons.

If you don't want police involved in breaking up fights on a football field, don't let them on the field. Telling a cop not to break up a fight is like trying to tell you to quit posting dipshittery... It's completely antithetic to their nature.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Yeah those fall 3 times faster**

 

[Big Sheep81]

It worked in The Longest Yard*

 

[mount lefroy]

If you don't want police involved in breaking up fights on a football field, don't let them on the field. Telling a cop not to break up a fight is like trying to tell you to quit posting dipshittery... It's completely antithetic to their nature.

Look kiddo, a fight on the field isnt a crime, the officers there arent there to regulate the game. they are there to protect individual coaches and keep the fans away from the teams and the officials. To suggest they need to be involved in something that doesnt involve either is moronic.

THey were involved in that fight because coaches came on the field and it was their responsibility to protect them. Nothing else. And as one person suggested, if one got too close to two players fighting and they drew a weapon, the implications could be mind boggling. Better to let game officials and coaches clear it and if necessary, call the game off.