Eddie Needs to Step Down...

[Greene Rice FIG]

Originally posted by RU-JMM78:

I expect Jordan to have a meeting with the athletic director at the end of the season.I hope that meeting is as frank as the communication given by the Athletic Director to the Court Club.He needs to say that the mens basketball program is in bad shape and it will take 5-7 years to have any semblance of a winning program without financial backing for facility improvements within one year

I prefer he reflects on what has happened over the past 2 years and identify the mistakes he has made and take the appropriate steps to fix.

In my eyes he desperately needs a coaching staff that he trusts and leans on. 1 guy can not do it all. He can not see all. He can not coach, make substiutions, and give players individual feedback during the game.

In addition, unless the team is in tip top shape we must make substiutions. You can't ask players to give 100% effort playing 40 minutes per game.

 

[RUfinal4]

Eddie is not getting fired yet. He is here to do the best he can until we start to receive B10 full money. We need to get a plan enacted for a practice facility and other basketball investments. Eddie is 60 now. I can see him fulfilling his contract until around age 63 when we go in a different direction. If he turns the program around before then we can grant an extension. By then both Danny and Bobby Hurley would have a resume for us to assess if we want them.

 

[woodennickel1]

Originally posted by rutgersguy1:

Originally posted by woodennickel1:

Originally posted by rutgersguy1:

That's nice but again to me it's not worthy of a 7 year contract. I say this all the time with regards to hiring coaches.
You have to be worried about flash in the pan results and whether a particular coach can achieve results over the long haul when the step up is made. I think Mike Rice's results were stronger than the Hurleys and he didn't work out and I wouldn't even call his results that much of a flash in the pan as he was doing it over a 3 year span.

Flash in the pan? He has turned around two different programs. If RU had made the commitment when they hired Jordan they would probably be well on their way to success and an NCAA birth within a year or two. With a birth in the tournament they would also be recuperating the money they made the commitment with. It is small minded thinking that keeps this program down and keeps with the hiring of people like Hill and Jordan that can not get a job anywhere else. Rice was the one time I believe they made the right choice and would have had success by now if not for his other issues in my opinion.

Flash in the pan because while the trajectory has been good he hasn't even made the NCAAs yet from either spot. It's nice but I can't consider it some sort of guaranteed stamp that this guy is going to be good when he steps up. You have to be making NCAA tourneys to be even considered no? Even if he did for a year, I still wouldn't be convinced. Look at Andy Enfield and that whole dunk city at Florida Gulf Coast. Made the sweet 16 in a couple years but he's struggling so far. It's still early in his USC tenure though. How about the Cornell coach who went to BC after going to the NCAAs for few years at Cornell. Fired last year after it didn't work out. Even if I can't remember more off the top of my head the list goes on and on.

There are plenty of mid major coaches who do really well for a a year or 2 and then flame out when they step up. It can be very hit or miss and the less you have to go on the more iffy things are so I'd be hard pressed to be handing out long 7 year contracts to those kind of candidates. I have no qualms hiring these kind of coaches but I'm not eager to give out long term contracts or huge money to them. So if it became necessary in the future, I don't mind hiring either Hurley if they continue on their trajectories but I don't like giving big enticements to do so.




This post was edited on 2/20 9:15 AM by rutgersguy1

Well that is what it will take because these guys (Hurley's) are to smart to put themselves in a position that it is impossible to win. This University has shown time and time again it is not willing to give what it takes which is a commitment to winning and that is unfortunate . They will keep hiring people for three years at a time and will not address the facility's issues and commitment to winning.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Originally posted by woodennickel1:

Well that is what it will take because these guys (Hurley's) are to smart to put themselves in a position that it is impossible to win. This University has shown time and time again it is not willing to give what it takes which is a commitment to winning and that is unfortunate . They will keep hiring people for three years at a time and will not address the facility's issues and commitment to winning.

Well I sort of addressed that. IF any change is necessary, I don't see it happening for 2 years. By that time we'll be 3 year into our revenue sharing of the B10. So that next coach's contract is going to overlap with our full share of B10 revenues so financial help will likely be on the way by that time. On our end, we'll have 2 more years to assess the Hurleys and all the other mid major coaches on the market at that time.

So hope EJ can turn things around and if not, I think our situation looks better for whomever is next because they will see that the B10 money will be coming during their tenure here.

 

[PatrickRU92]

Rutgers (10-17 overall, 2-12 Big Ten) shot just 32 percent from the
field, dragging its season-long shooting percentage to .387. That ranks
335th among 351 Division I teams. It's by far the worst among
power-conference teams, with South Carolina next at .406 (300th).Mack is hitting just .401 this season, including .323 from 3-point range.Rutgers'
other guards and wings are converting at abysmal rates: Bishop Daniels
(.374 overall, .326 from 3), Mike Williams (.309, .220), Junior Etou
(.387, .306), Kerwin Okoro (.275, .211) and Malick Kone (.293, .182).

EJ must not be showing these players the proper release on their follow through. Get rid of him!

 

[ruman]

Originally posted by RUfinal4:
Eddie is not getting fired yet. He is here to do the best he can until we start to receive B10 full money. We need to get a plan enacted for a practice facility and other basketball investments. Eddie is 60 now. I can see him fulfilling his contract until around age 63 when we go in a different direction. If he turns the program around before then we can grant an extension. By then both Danny and Bobby Hurley would have a resume for us to assess if we want them.

It should be an exciting three years. And the Hurleys may both have P5 jobs by then.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Originally posted by ruman:

Originally posted by RUfinal4:
Eddie is not getting fired yet. He is here to do the best he can until we start to receive B10 full money. We need to get a plan enacted for a practice facility and other basketball investments. Eddie is 60 now. I can see him fulfilling his contract until around age 63 when we go in a different direction. If he turns the program around before then we can grant an extension. By then both Danny and Bobby Hurley would have a resume for us to assess if we want them.

It should be an exciting three years. And the Hurleys may both have P5 jobs by then.

Archie Miller has done a nice job at Dayton and he's not been hired.....yet (I think he will be soon). And that was after an elite 8 appearance. The Davidson coach is going to most likely end his career there. He never got hired and then probably decided to stay for good. Donahue made the NCAA 3 years before BC hired him. So you never know who goes and who stays and the Hurleys certainly haven't done enough yet to guarantee they will be hired. Too much is up in the air. If and when the time comes you see who's out there and make an appropriate decision at that time. I wouldn't be so eager to pull a Mulcahy thinking FHJ is the next good coach only to have him flop.

 

[hinson32]

Cali,

If the coach doesn't matter who does CVS with the same lack of support and facilities have rosters full of MCD all Americans every year and go to two final fours? She has 15 20 win seasons at RU and is ranked 18th this year.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Originally posted by PatrickRU92:
Rutgers (10-17 overall, 2-12 Big Ten) shot just 32 percent from the
field, dragging its season-long shooting percentage to .387. That ranks
335th among 351 Division I teams. It's by far the worst among
power-conference teams, with South Carolina next at .406 (300th).Mack is hitting just .401 this season, including .323 from 3-point range.Rutgers'
other guards and wings are converting at abysmal rates: Bishop Daniels
(.374 overall, .326 from 3), Mike Williams (.309, .220), Junior Etou
(.387, .306), Kerwin Okoro (.275, .211) and Malick Kone (.293, .182).

EJ must not be showing these players the proper release on their follow through. Get rid of him!

players using screens properly and making hard cuts would result in higher percentage shots.....which we would still miss

 

[78CollegeAve]

BC made the same mistake with Donahue that Fred Gruninger made with Littlepage. Ivy success doesn't translate to the next level up. In the Ivy, you're recruiting against the 7 other schools for that small pool of players with some talent but can meet the Ivy academic standards. And then you have them on your roster for 4 years.

 

[higgins3]

Coaches facilitate winning, winning brings better recruits. Not many people want to take a chance on Rutgers right now, that is why Eddie Jordan recruited the way he did. The way he had to. Who else would've come here? He's what we have.

Iowa state has beat a lot of great basketball teams. The fact is that we don't have the talent right now. And the talent we have has some flaws. Loyal knights, but flaws. People that don't think next year will have a shot have to come to the realization that Jack is not a great help defender, dribbles too much, turns over too much, is lost a lot. The big is BIG and Mack struggles there. I am a huge Mack fan, i even like Jack a lot too, but these players do not come without some issues.

Losing right now, you have to change up how we're recruiting. For the most part, Eddie Jordan has done a decent job recruiting to Rutgers. Many of you will say WTF, but let's be realistic here, a program that is not invested in and that hasn't won in a long time is not one that anyone wants to come to. You have to find players that have size, can shoot, but they won't be perfect.. Looking for any NJ player you have to have a great recruiting line. And those players don't always pan out.

We haven't recruited many four or five stars, but for what we ARE, the job has been satisfactory. Before we say Eddie Jordan can't recruit for 2391, put on your Rutgers basketball shirt and take a glance in the mirror. It's been a hard couple decades at Rutgers, and not many recruits want to jump at that. NBA coach or not, it's a very hard sell and for what we are, Eddie Jordan has done a decent job.

If you don't think he has, I don't know if you're being realistic with yourself and the view of our program.

 

[PatrickRU92]

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:

Originally posted by PatrickRU92:
Rutgers (10-17 overall, 2-12 Big Ten) shot just 32 percent from the
field, dragging its season-long shooting percentage to .387. That ranks
335th among 351 Division I teams. It's by far the worst among
power-conference teams, with South Carolina next at .406 (300th).Mack is hitting just .401 this season, including .323 from 3-point range.Rutgers'
other guards and wings are converting at abysmal rates: Bishop Daniels
(.374 overall, .326 from 3), Mike Williams (.309, .220), Junior Etou
(.387, .306), Kerwin Okoro (.275, .211) and Malick Kone (.293, .182).

EJ must not be showing these players the proper release on their follow through. Get rid of him!

players using screens properly and making hard cuts would result in higher percentage shots.....which we would still miss

who is going to shoot the ball off the screen that you trust?

This team, the way it is comprised, simply can NOT win. I don't give a crap who the coach is.

 

[NBKnight]

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:

Mack was getting shots early in the year..... teams know he is the only shooter and take him out of the game.

That's so easy for a defense to do when a team only has 1 shooter.

I don't make excuses....I just know that the talent level and depth sucks. If he can't get it done with a full roster and the necessary pieces......HE SHOULD GO......PERIOD

Especially when the shooter is 5'9".

 

[higgins3]

FIG, if you have to re teach someone to shoot when they get to the d1 level, you're going to have trouble. Recruit a kid with good shooting form out of high school. See any weird mechanics, don't bring him here. Out of all the things Eddie Jordan should have to teach, shooting a basketball is tough when you've been doing it wrong for 12 years.

He said in the rutgers paper that he has them shoot all day recently, and still a great struggle.

 

[ruman]

We haven't recruited many four or five stars, but for what we ARE, the job has been satisfactory. Before we say Eddie Jordan can't recruit for 2391, put on your Rutgers basketball shirt and take a glance in the mirror. It's been a hard couple decades at Rutgers, and not many recruits want to jump at that. NBA coach or not, it's a very hard sell and for what we are, Eddie Jordan has done a decent job.
-------------------------------
I understand he entered into a very bad situation, and I know he will probably be here at least a couple of years minimum.

But I can not understand how the past two years in any way fall under the category of a "decent job". Yes, he did not kill anybody and hasn't hurled basketball at anyone's heads. But aside from that, I don't see it.

I am willing to put the past two years in the rear view completely, meaning it would have no impact on how I view this coach. Doing a decent job would mean for me in year 3. at a minimum, having a program trending upwards, hoping to be near .500.

I see no way that is where we are.

 

[RUCONN]

a few things. One. I think people think that we need to make HUGE steps to win and are thinking competing for conference titles and championships. NO ONE is looking for that. Yes, it obviously would be nice and it is possible with the right coach but we are looking for a coach to get the team to be competitive. something like 19-13, with a 9-8 conference record would be more than acceptable to me. That doesn't take the type of craziness people are talking about in this thread with regards to facility upgrades etc. we had teams like that in 2001 and a few years later. They did it in a better conference, and arguably, that 2001-2002 team should've been an NCAA team.

To the person that said "Hurley has a good thing going at Rhode Island". Yes he does. But no one goes to a school like rhode island looking to stay for 10 years. It's a stepping stone job. Is it a stepping stone job to Rutgers? maybe not. But the allure is there. state school, great conference, major market

 

[higgins3]

RUMan, how do you confidently recruit any 4 star + players to rutgers right now? A huge history of losing, a bad scandal, not enough support from school, bad hotdogs.

Just how do you go about getting highly talented players? It is a very,very hard sell. Recruit a different player. Don't look at stars, but look at who will willing dive on the floor for a loss ball, look for someone with a good shooting technique, and who passes out of a back court press instead of dribbles.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Things aren't going to change much until 2021, when the big B1G money starts rolling in. Until then, only lightening in a bottle (meaning, under-recruited players come in and perform above and beyond expectations) will get us a .500 or better record.

 

[higgins3]

Ruconn, for a stretch of time the team was winning and competitive this year. The past 7 or so games though, very bad. Blowouts. Like you, my expectations weren't super high. Just win and compete, and don't get blown out.

Talent is that different though. Our star players aren't star players. Well Mack is for the most part, but Jack leaves a lot to be desired at this point.

 

[ruman]

Originally posted by higgins3:
RUMan, how do you confidently recruit any 4 star + players to rutgers right now? A huge history of losing, a bad scandal, not enough support from school, bad hotdogs.

Just how do you go about getting highly talented players? It is a very,very hard sell. Recruit a different player. Don't look at stars, but look at who will willing dive on the floor for a loss ball, look for someone with a good shooting technique, and who passes out of a back court press instead of dribbles.

I have made it clear that I think a young mid major coach with real connections to the area was the way to go. This is in contrast to Eddie, who was in the NBA for 20 years and had not recruited anyone during that time. So that was and is my thinking.

You said he was doing a decent job - I do not agree




This post was edited on 2/20 1:31 PM by ruman

 

[bac2therac]

Originally posted by PiscatawayMike:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Things aren't going to change much until 2021, when the big B1G money starts rolling in. Until then, only lightening in a bottle (meaning, under-recruited players come in and perform above and beyond expectations) will get us a .500 or better record.

agree Mike...and the thing is we have been looking for lightning in a bottle for the past 20 years now. I fear that even with the money though things will not change until there is a change in the thinking from the very top of the command chain here

 

[brookdale-soda]

On offense, the team is in position to score points. They either don't have the skills or don't have the focus to finish.

On defense, they started the season much improved and are now lost.

I'm not sure what to think but if we were not consistently in position to score easy buckets, i'd be more worried.

this makes me think its the Jimmys and Joes. Give EJ 2-3 more years.

 

[higgins3]

That would probably be a decent idea. NJ stars do not always add up. I am just saying, for all people saying he has done a terrible job, exactly how do you sell this program right now? Eddie selling himself is about the only way, so thank god we have Eddie Jordan. It's a very hard sell at the present moment.

Just a long history of losing that no one wants to take a shot at.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Originally posted by bac2therac:

Originally posted by PiscatawayMike:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Things aren't going to change much until 2021, when the big B1G money starts rolling in. Until then, only lightening in a bottle (meaning, under-recruited players come in and perform above and beyond expectations) will get us a .500 or better record.

agree Mike...and the thing is we have been looking for lightning in a bottle for the past 20 years now. I fear that even with the money though things will not change until there is a change in the thinking from the very top of the command chain herebac, I believe when the Brink's trucks start unloading on Rockafeller Road and the money trees all over Livingston campus finally shed their rectangular green leaves in 2021 the RU administration will finally change its way of thinking.

 

[RUKeystone]

Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside

I would be thrilled if this happened.

 

[derleider]

If RU is willing to spend money on a real coach (and by that I mean going out and offering above the league average and seeing who steps up to take it), then RU should seriously consider trying to get Eddie to step down.

But I doubt we are, so Eddie stepping down, and being replaced by some other low cost option is probably just adding more years until we get to the point where we are willing to pay for a real coach.

 

[Aggs]

We need high IQ players with enough athleticism to play in the B1G.

 

[Jackson206:)]

I am convinced Eddie was brought in here not to win but to bring calm to the program. He is not a very good coach but that does not matter to the administration. They just brought him here to stabilize things after the Rice fiasco. When the $$$ starts rolling in, or the University actually invests in the program prior to the $$$ coming in, maybe the proper coach will be brought in. Until then, Eddie is the stop gap- a classy Loyal Son who most respect. In the mean time, watch the L's pile up.

 

[RUCONN]

Originally posted by higgins3:
Ruconn, for a stretch of time the team was winning and competitive this year. The past 7 or so games though, very bad. Blowouts. Like you, my expectations weren't super high. Just win and compete, and don't get blown out.

Talent is that different though. Our star players aren't star players. Well Mack is for the most part, but Jack leaves a lot to be desired at this point.

pretty much spot on. I am not looking to be UNC, Duke, Florida, or Kentucky but we should be able to be Minnesota, Iowa, or Miami

 

[seels2662]

Originally posted by Scarlet Shack:

I have been saying this for 2 seasons...with one exception, the players who returned are here in body...that's it. I appreciate their loyality...as it is the difference between being 10-12 wins and 4 wins in the last years...

But ...but I am disappointed that they have ONE college career and just can't lay it on the line every night...

Pay attention when the lay ups and dunks are being made by the opposition...and who is on the floor

People completely underestimated the mess Eddie was left...

Now...NEXT YEAR there is NO EXCUSES for this type of effort. ZERO. NIL. NADA

I can live with turnovers...and missed shots next year...especially with a young team

Buts players Eddie brought in....

But I want to see 13 guys on the floor ready to run through a wall for each other and the school the represent.

Eddie MUST demand this of anyone who returns...or else the end of the bench they go

And Eddie MUST find the coaching ajustments to push for more. I understand the reasons for being easy the last two years. But its a new slate next year...You have 3 sophs and 5 frosh plus whatever else we add this spring

Got to do it right...MUST have MAX effort every time down...

I agree with this.

 

[MADHAT1]

This is year 2 of the Jordan eras, some said it would take 7 years to make the RU MBB program a good one.
Whether Fast Eddie can do it quicker or not at all isn't the point, the point is Jordan needs more time than two years to
prove he can make RU MBB a winner with what he had to work with when he came on-board after the Rice fiasco.
Not saying he needs all 5 years of his contract to prove himself, only giving up on him in his second year doesn't seem right to me
because he took over a dysfunctional program that had just self destructed.
This year's team makes all RU fans think the worse, but no matter how frustrated we feel, we must realize Jordan started off with one hand tied behind his back ( recruiting wise) a depleted roster because of defections and talent on roster that has proved
not prime time material.
Eddie might not be the right man for the job, but it's too soon for anyone to say that, no matter how the team looks this season.
Next season should be a better indicator of if he can do what's needed to make RU a winning program and if the team doesn't show improvement ( competition wise) in his 3rd year then we all can feel he doesn't have the coaching ability to win and want a change.

But don't expect any change until after Jordan's 4th year is complete, RU won't spend the money to pay him off and hire a replacement before 4 years of his 5 year contract is up and maybe will just let him ride the full 5 years out and not renew rather than pay him off before it doers .
Also expect an on the cheap replacement no matter how long Eddie lasts if his contract isn't renewed or let go early.

I still feel Eddie Jordan can turn RU MBB into a winner, just not as sure about it anymore.

 

[RUCONN]

Originally posted by seels2662:

Originally posted by Scarlet Shack:

I have been saying this for 2 seasons...with one exception, the players who returned are here in body...that's it. I appreciate their loyality...as it is the difference between being 10-12 wins and 4 wins in the last years...

But ...but I am disappointed that they have ONE college career and just can't lay it on the line every night...

Pay attention when the lay ups and dunks are being made by the opposition...and who is on the floor

People completely underestimated the mess Eddie was left...

Now...NEXT YEAR there is NO EXCUSES for this type of effort. ZERO. NIL. NADA

I can live with turnovers...and missed shots next year...especially with a young team

Buts players Eddie brought in....

But I want to see 13 guys on the floor ready to run through a wall for each other and the school the represent.

Eddie MUST demand this of anyone who returns...or else the end of the bench they go

And Eddie MUST find the coaching ajustments to push for more. I understand the reasons for being easy the last two years. But its a new slate next year...You have 3 sophs and 5 frosh plus whatever else we add this spring

Got to do it right...MUST have MAX effort every time down...

I agree with this.

agree with this to an extent. it's a mess, but the lack of effort is on the players but it's also on EJ. I don't think the type of effort being put out there by some of these guys would be tolerated by other coaches i.e. know it's impossible, but this exact team, are we this bad under Boeheim? Huggins? Coach K? Pitino?

 

[higgins3]

I don't think Eddie Jordan wasn't paid 1.2 million to calm the program down.

Ruconn-no doubt. We've come far from competing some games, but we rarely laid down. We were just out talented, out sized a lot of games.Penn state game-there is no excuses for that. Beat an opponent once you should get blown out the second time. Etou stayed home for that game.

 

[Jackson206:)]

It doesn't appear he was brought in to win...

 

[ruman]

Originally posted by higgins3:
I don't think Eddie Jordan wasn't paid 1.2 million to calm the program down.

Ruconn-no doubt. We've come far from competing some games, but we rarely laid down. We were just out talented, out sized a lot of games.Penn state game-there is no excuses for that. Beat an opponent once you should get blown out the second time. Etou stayed home for that game.

We got beat by 34 last night, and the starters were yanked for lack of effort. I consider that in the "not competing" column
This post was edited on 2/20 4:12 PM by ruman

 

[higgins3]

Ruman- i said we've come far from competing meaning that we stopped competing.

Still though, even in bad losses by 20 pts to OSU, they never put in backups and the game stayed a game.

We by no way are on the talent level of OSu and a lot of these teams. We lack IQ, we can't shoot, and we're undersized.

This all makes sense now. I've liked some of our games(75%) of them. The blowouts(15+) normally didn't have us laying down. The truth of the matter is though that we're just outsized and out talented. At times, outcoached, too probably.

The majority of it has to do with Rutgers having a terrible history and it being hard to recruit here. I wouldn't go near placing the blame on only Eddie Jordan at the moment. The school doesn't invest, has a bad history of losing, and therefore can't recruit that well. It doesn't have to take forever to turn it around though. I even think next year could be decent, if not better. People are starting to see the potential of that idea, because our star players are not without some kind of fault. Not so much Mack, but Jack is not playing at a high level right now and hasn't been unfortunately. Ill be on my feet on senior night nonetheless.

 

[ruman]

Why is it that when were competing (@ Indiana/ @Maryland) Eddie gets full credit (which he deserved), but now that we are getting rolled the past month its not his fault. Now its because of the lack of admin support.

It is the same team - we have not lost anyone from those early efforts.

In my mind, Eddie has lost the team - that is on him. The big picture stuff is legit - in the big scheme. Eddie losing the team in his fault.

And a bunch of the last few games (20-2 run vs Michigan St / one field goal in last 12 min first half Purdue / @ Penn St / Ohio St / @ Iowa) have been awful efforts
This post was edited on 2/20 4:28 PM by ruman

 

[bac2therac]

Rutgers has failed to compete the last 3 ganes...all embarraasing efforts

 

[PatrickRU92]

Originally posted by ruman:
Why is it that when were competing (@ Indiana/ @Maryland) Eddie gets full credit (which he deserved), but now that we are getting rolled the past month its not his fault.

Every loss is his fault. Every win (too few) is to his credit. He's the head coach. Thats the way it should be.

Now if you'd like to know why we are getting blown out more now at the end of the year I'll give you 2 reasons--valid or not.

1) We have essentially zero depth. Our main players, who are not as good as our opponents players in the 1st place, have put in tons of minutes with no respite
2) Losing breeds losing. Look at yesterday's game thread. A few people said they turned it off once we got down by "x" points or something to that effect. Thats because they knew (rightly so ) that we simply do not have the ability to score enough points to come back from a large deficit. If they knew that, and you know that, and I know that, don't you think the team knows that too? They are getting beat down both physically AND mentally.

Just like you don't extend EJ after winning Wisconsin and nearly beating MD, you don't fire him after a losing streak in what is functionally his first full year as coach (I'm sorry but to me last year is a 100% complete wash---my opinion, and if you don't share it thats OK)

The board needs to stop overreacting. The program is ill and is NOT going to be fixed this season when we have little to compete with and we are going to likely be thin next year as well. The idea that we are going to fight hard and play in your face killer defense and look sharp when we are outmanned on a daily basis is a fallacy that needs to stop. I'm still waiting to see a 10 win team that plays like their hair is on fire.

If EJ has lost the team, then its on him. But he isn't getting fired or stepping down so forget that notion.

Suck it up, accept that we are a bad team and do a few native-indian dances to get rid of the evil spirits that live in the RAC locker room for next year and hope that the guys who didn't play this year and the ones coming next year are better than advertised.

 

[higgins3]

I said outcoached.

I agree. When the team loses it's on him to an extent. But he didn't inherit the rutgers coaching situation. The 40 yrs of losing, scrambling to find recruits in two weeks time, having your two players stay, the school not backing him.

This whole season is far from Eddies fault. Some of it does lay him, definitely, but far from all. Theres been some bright spots like the ones you mentioned. I wanted more than 10 wins,too.