East Region - Perfect World

GimmeSomeMore

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SDSU is trending to finish behind Gonzaga if both win out - looks like SDSU would then be the 4th 1 seed and shipped to the East.
Could they/would they ever put RU in the East in an 8/9 game?

Who wouldn't sign up for this possibility:

Round 1 vs. ASU (Cliff sweepstakes)
Round 2 vs. SDSU (clearly a good team, but talent not off the charts - would be the trendy upset pick the first weekend)
Sweet Sixteen vs. 4th seeded Nova on a Friday night at the Garden
Elite Eight vs. 2nd seeded dook or 3rd seeded Hall on Sunday evening in the biggest college basketball game in the Garden since mid 80s St Johns.

Would be the greatest 11 days imaginable [assuming we made the run]
 

jordkap

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I would bet against Rutgers getting a game in MSG, after the Michigan crowd of 80% Scarlet, they aren’t giving an 8 seed a home game
 

tico brown

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You know damm well the committee is going to send Rutgers out west before giving them games close by. Only Duke and Arizona are allowed "home tournament games" lol
 
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GimmeSomeMore

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Not sure that is exactly true for the Regionals (I think it is too cumbersome to worry about geography on the second wkd after the top line). I agree that is the case for the first weekend games (pod concept), but after that recent history says otherwise:

2019: Cinn (7) was slotted for Louisville, Kansas (4) for Kansas City, Maryland (6) for DC
2018: SDSU (11) in LA
2017: St. Mary's (7) in San Jose, Creighton (6) in KC

I think that there is a scenario where we are in Sacramento pod the first weekend (8/9 in the same group with #1 SDSU) all while being East Region.

I certainly don't know the rules as well as others here, so perhaps I have this incorrect.
 
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RU848789

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Strictly by the rules, we could play at MSG, but I think the committee would try not to have that be an outcome, given that it would be an advantage for us, obviously and it's not hard for them to send us to the south region - see the NCAA bracket rules below (I bolded the parts about "home" games). Albany and MSG would rock though...

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-10-19/how-field-68-teams-picked-march-madness

III. BUILDING THE BRACKET

Sixteen levels are established (i.e., the seeds, 1 through 16) in the bracket that cross the four regions, permitting evaluation of four teams simultaneously on the same level. Teams on each seed line (No. 1, No. 2, No. 3, etc.) should be as equal as possible.

Each region is divided into quadrants with four levels in each, permitting the evaluation of four different sections within each region against the same sections in each of the other regions.

The committee will assign all four teams in each bracket group (seeds 1, 16, 8, 9), (4, 13, 5, 12), (2, 15, 7, 10), (3, 14, 6, 11) to the same first-/second-round site. There will be two ”pods‟ at each first-/second-round site which may feed into different regional sites.

Each of the first four teams selected from a conference shall be placed in different regions if they are seeded on the first four lines.

Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional final if they played each other three or more times during the regular season and conference tournament.

Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional semifinals if they played each other twice during the regular season and conference tournament.

Teams from the same conference may play each other as early as the second round if they played no more than once during the regular season and conference tournament.

Any principle can be relaxed if two or more teams from the same conference are among the last four at-large seeded teams participating in the First Four.

To recognize the demonstrated quality of such teams, the committee shall not place teams seeded on the first four lines at a potential “home-crowd disadvantage” in the first round.

The last four at-large teams on the overall seed list, as well as teams seeded 65 through 68, will be paired to compete in the First Four games on Tuesday and Wednesday following the announcement of the field. (If allowed, the last at-large team on the seed list will be paired with the second-to-last at-large team on the seed list. The other First Four games will consist of the third-to-last at-large team on the seed list playing the fourth-to-last at-large team on the seed list, as well as seed 65 versus 66; and seed 67 versus 68).

The winners of the First Four games will advance to a first- and second-round site to be determined by the committee during selection weekend. In the event a First Four site is also a first- and second-round site, the winners of the First Four games may be assigned to that site, regardless of the days of competition.

Teams will remain in or as close to their areas of natural interest as possible, as determined by mileage from campus to the venue. A team moved out of its natural area will be placed in the next closest region to the extent possible. If two teams from the same natural region are in contention for the same bracket position, the team ranked higher in the seed list shall remain in its natural region.

A team will not be permitted to play in any facility in which it has played more than three games during its season, not including exhibitions and conference postseason tournaments.

A host institution’s team shall not be permitted to play at the site where the institution is hosting. However, the team may play on the same days when the institution is hosting.


Teams may play at a site where the conference of which it is a member is serving as the host.

A team may be moved up or down one (or in extraordinary circumstances) two lines from its true seed line (e.g., from the 13 seed line to the 12 seed line; or from a 12 seed line to a 13 seed line) when it is placed in the bracket if necessary to meet the principles.
 

Westcoast

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They can't make ASU our opponent again, can they???

First bowl gave ever... ASU at the Meadowlands. Second bowl game ever 27 years later... ASU in Phoenix.

Last NCAA appearance, vs ASU in '91. Next NCAA appearance 29 years later... ASU?

What would the odds be of that happening?

Frankly, I'm looking g forward to seeing someone else. Lol
 

armenius

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the NCAA will not put a top seed at a possible disadvantage nor should they

The Rutgers/SDSU matchup would be in Sacramento. The tourney doesn't bank on an 8 seed defeating the 1, and therefore is not even considering the fact that Rutgers could end up at MSG if they get through the first two games. When it comes to placing regionals, they only look at seeds 1-4 to ensure that the 1 seed has a preferable location for the sweet 16 and elite 8 compared to those other 3 teams. They can't account for every upset that would happen along the way.

Since Gonzaga is ranked ahead of SDSU, the Zags will be placed in the West Regional. If both teams remain on the 1 line, Kansas will get the Midwest and Baylor will get the South, leaving SDSU with the East. However, it is important to note that Kansas and Baylor will play once more (maybe twice in the B12 title game), so one of them could easily be replaced by Dayton, Maryland or Duke. In that scenario, one of those teams will get the East and SDSU will be slotted to the South.

Unless we can climb back to a 5 or 6 and piggy back off of Villanova or Seton Hall, we won't be in Albany in Round 1.