New husker offer for pass rusher. I dont watch film on every kid, and don’t want to fake any level of expertise, but this guy’s film impresses me. There’s a lot to like and he shows the skills you’d want to see. He’s from nowhere Kansas and would have to learn to play with the big boys, but appears to be the definition of “under the radar” with big upside.
Dylan Jordan offer
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5.5 3star who visited ISU and came away without an offer from them. Supposedly 6-3, 215lbs. I watched a little bit of his Rivals video. KSU also hasn't offered. Holds offers from TCU and Utah and now Nebraska. They must not be very optimistic about Stephen Parker who they offered recently. Clearly we desperately need bodies at OLB.
I get the feeling they’re lining up plans A thru G for pass rushers and seeing how things play out. Desperate maybe, but agree they seem determined to get another body. It also says something about what they think of the current roster guys after losing that one Guy.
Do not forget that this staff treats “offers” a little differently. They use the “offer” to start the conversation. Then they will work out the order of who has the ability to commit and then move on down the list as needed.
haha, Pittsburg KS isn't nowhere, home of Pittsburg State U. Gorilla's, it's on the MO border south of KC, population is about 22 K or so
oh yes, try Severy KS, that's much closer to nowhere
No they don’t. They are just like everyone else. They evaluate tape, rank the players, make 1000 (sarcasm) offers, and as those players go off the board and commit elsewhere, or don’t show interest they are marked as such and the board is adjusted accordingly. Then after the early signing period, they remove everyone who signed elsewhere and create a new pecking order. If they don’t think they have enough “leads” to get the position filled, they will offer more kids that fit what they need. Getting an offer after Christmas means the player had a great senior season, got some academic issues fixed, or the school is having an issue getting kids to commit at that position. But the coaches know exactly what spot on the board every kid holds before they make an offer.
I should add that the board is very fluid and as prospects perform the board is adjusted.
I would add that there are some under radar athletes that schools slow play and try to steal. If a kid is from Pittsburg Kansas and didnt hit the camp/7 on 7 scene, he could be heavily underratted. If NU came at him early, he could draw national attention.
I believe Clemson was trying steal Jimmy Fritzke with no comp..but NU foiled that plan
If I had to guess, I think they're making contingency plans. This staff has done a pretty good job of setting up back-up plans, just in case. Look at the players who cancelled their visits after Wandale signed.
Wisconsin’s Isaiahh Loudermilk is from there.
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Yep they did a lot of this last cycle. Plan A’s visit is set up first and he gets first shot to commit, before moving on to the next.
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What the heck does "slow play" mean? If he was offered, he was offered. To date, KSU nor KU have offered, are they "slow playing" too? In this day and age, there are few "under the radar" kids. Coaches send film everywhere and he is in the back yard of Pitt State several Missouri schools and KU just up the road. These comments seem to be made often when Nebraska offers someone that seems to come out of nowhere and was not even in the conversation. Does anyone really think if they got the guys they wanted, that this kid would even have anything to tweet about?
Edit: We have like 6 weeks until the February 6 final signing date. Throw in New Years in that mix, time for some visits and yet we are slow playing. Seems to me, there is a lot going on in a compressed time to be playing the slow game, whatever the heck it is.
Also important to keep in mind some links I posted a while back where it was stated that "some" quantify that anyway you want, of the offers were not even real. The offers are self reported by a kid so take that for what its worth as well.
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Those track times are pretty impressive for a 6'3" 215lb high school senior. Bring in those athletes!
I see 11.07 for his 100M PR, but that is moving for a guy his size.
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=13311000#!/L0
Except they do. I think someone already has forgotten how mad Pelini would be because of all these offers that were being sent out by other schools that were not commitable. If you think that every "offer" means the same thing, you are a fool. There have been interviews with this staff where they have stated that is how they view offers. If you don't get in early with the "offer" it is more difficult to get in on a kid, so they are more liberal with them, but they are not commitable for everyone. Remember the OT from Kansas Jalan Robinson, who received and offer from Nebraska and then waited for Kansas to change their offer from a grayshirt to a full offer? That offer was in no way a commitable offer. I imagine the same deal here, until they get him on campus and further along in the process and determine whether or not he is a "take". But please, by all means come off all high and mighty as though you know that they do not treat offers differently.
Which is very refreshing. I do not miss the Pelini-era dumpster diving in late January.
Kid looks like a man among boys on his film. Question is can he do it against other D-1 athletes. Hard to tell what you're getting when a freak athlete like him is playing against "offensive linemen" who look about 5-9 and 205 lbs.
You're not seeing him strike and defeat a bunch of blocks like Hannah's film, he's basically coming untouched off the edge or looping in and getting totally whiffed on with a free run at the QB. The frame and athleticism are there, maybe he could turn into a player with a couple years to add muscle and learn technique. Should be able to cover with those measurables.
One thing I like is he does seem a little nasty. Looks like he arrives with bad intentions when he tackles.
Staff is really dragging the nets for OLBs.
You're not seeing him strike and defeat a bunch of blocks like Hannah's film, he's basically coming untouched off the edge or looping in and getting totally whiffed on with a free run at the QB. The frame and athleticism are there, maybe he could turn into a player with a couple years to add muscle and learn technique. Should be able to cover with those measurables.
One thing I like is he does seem a little nasty. Looks like he arrives with bad intentions when he tackles.
Staff is really dragging the nets for OLBs.
I like him! Please sign him up, please. He'd be pushing 5 stars if lived in LA or Houston.
I can see him getting to 255lbs with elite speed and strength.
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I'm more impressed with Asante's film, and it's against a much higher level of competition. Jordan kind of reminds me of Dedrick Young's film in high school. Jordan and Asante are both visiting in January, so it might be a matter of first come, first serve.
You took everything I said out of context. Im saying the fact they JUST offered him is the slow play. Local colleges like kansas and kstate had to be slow playing him as well or they just dont know a football player when they see one. Both programs are in complete rebuild/coaching changes. If there was no longer no such thing as a sleeper..we wouldnt see no stars... 2 and 3 stars going to the NFL Every year. Cam Taylor got on the field as a true freshman..pretty safe to say he was better than his grade..and was another player offered after christmas. You jaded NU fans are the worse...with your negativity. If that kid lived in south florida you would be happy as hell to get him!lol..gotta be able to look at the player and measurables. He may be one of the fastest kids on NU team right now.
I like Fona, Mack, Jordan in that order..due to immediate need. Jordan, Mack, Fonua for long term ceiling
It's funny to see you guys excited about a kid iowa state/matt campbell looked at and said thanks but no thanks.
It's funny to see you're still an ignorant prick.
Boy, howdy. You are all over the place now. You did said "slow play", not me, I just asked what the heck it meant, and now you provided a definition which simply means to offer late and you further qualify it with the fact that KU and KSU are doing the same thing, as if you really knew. Oh, and have either offered? Hey, I am all for the kid making it big and he could be the next LaVonte David for all I know. I watched Berringer in High School and Goodland was 4A at that time so I know good kids can come from those size schools. But good grief man, don't make up a story that the world of college football is "slow playing" a kid from Pittsburg, KS when it very well could be that we are running out of options. You don't know and I don't know. It's not like he suddenly just got good at the end of the year did he? Or was it just after Christmas he became worthy of a scholarship but he wasn't before.
I always like how people make a case by naming all the low rated players who make it the league or how Cam "got on the field" like he was not a worthy candidate aside from his 3* rating. And of course the obligatory if he would have been in Florida, California, or Texas he sure would be rated much higher and all the idiot coaches in Kansas and Missouri (in case you haven't looked at a map, Pittsburg is a stone throw from Missouri and not that far from Arkansas) can't evaluate talent. I guess none of the mid west talent is really any good, surprised they found the likes of Henrich, Snodgrass and Piper in the outer regions of organized football. And another thing, if measurables always meant something there would be a complete team of AA's that never see the field.
The coaches are doing their best to get the best players they can, I have to trust that. After all, it's their job and it is on the line every year they don't secure or develop the talent they need to be successful. Just don't make the scenario fit your idea.
Ironic. Wouldn’t you trade almost anyone in your class for a about anyone in ours? Or even ISU’s for that matter. And I’m pretty sure the kid is a back up plan, at this point.
Asante’s drawback is probably his height being a little short for what staff ideally want. Hoping we snag at least one of Mack, Parker, Asante, Jordan.
And if you don’t that is exactly how everyone does it then you are a fool.
It is exactly what happened with Fritzsche. Clemson wanted him to wait until February, Nebraska gave him a December signing or the offer goes away. If he had waited and Clemson took someone on their board that was higher, he would have lost out on this opportunity. So he took the guaranteed over the probable.
I only took exception with the point that you said it is a starting point. It isn’t a starting point, they know full well who they will take and who they won’t before the offer goes out.
I don’t understand why this nut hasn’t been banned yet.
So it appears that Jordan didn't look like he was going to make it academically but he did enough this past semester to get himself eligible. That fact puts him on the board and I suspect there are going to be more offers coming his way. His measurables look like they would fit very nicely for us as an OLB recruit.
I was comparing to some of the previous staffs. Not everyone does it that way. The good recruiting staffs do it that way. Pelini definitely didn't do it to keep himself with options. He wanted the offer to "mean something," but that doesn't work well to keep themselves with options.
There is a reason that Nebraska is top 5 in the country in terms of offers. It is not only the national recruiting that they have to do, but that they are treating the offer differently as well. It is a starting point. It is to get the kid's attention to get the conversation starting to gauge interest of the prospect in Nebraska, attempt to get the kid on campus for a visit (official or unofficial) to verify height, weight, etc., and meet the kid in person. They have an idea of where they think he is on the list prior to offering, but these lists can change a lot depending upon interest of the kid, otherwise everyone would have all the top 100 kids at the tops of their boards. Those kids are not all interested in coming to all schools.