You could have said the same thing about Gradey Dick, and yet he was a lottery pick. Every NBA team is looking for shooters. If he was a strong freshman year, decent chance he goes into the draft.
Dylan Harper Update
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He was averaging over 5 assists a game in EYBL AAU.
I think Ace totally buys into Pike's defensive philosophy.The importance of all 4 players will be vital for 24.
I’m not expecting Cliff to be here in 24 and given the whole free agency status in college athletics - Mag has to be considered 50/50 for 24.
Ace and Dylan’s vital importance is on the offensive side and providing more notoriety for Rutgers while Cliff and Mag vital importance is on the defensive side of the ball
Thus I understand the position of both sides.
Let’s hopewe have this problem for 24 !
He will have the ball in his hands once we get past mid court. It would be smart to give him some help bringing the ball up from the back court just so he doesn’t waste a lot of energy doing that.
His handle is great, better than anyone we have had previously. Sure we will be running an offense, but a big part of it will be Harper having the ball, if the defense slacks off, he can shoot the 3, which he does at a high level. If they play him tight he can drive to the basket to score or get fouled. If they try to double he can kick the ball to Ace for an easy score.
My question for you is why is our staff recruiting him so hard? You don‘t seem to think he will have much of an impact, but our coaches have never worked so hard to get a recruit to come here. They obviously believe in his talent, but you do not.
He's not the offensive player Dylan is, but JD will to a better job finding GG and Ace.
Based on what??? Other teams will be forced to try to double Dylan, which they would never have to do for JD, which means other players will be open for easy shots. Ace is dying to play with Dylan.
I wish you would stop with the energy thing. The kid will be 18 years old when he gets here. He will have plenty of energy. The question is does he want to use it in parts of the game that don't involve him scoring. If we have to take it easy on him in facets of the game where he is not the centerpiece, then the team will underachieve.
Dylan will never be double teamed, and JD is more likely too get by his man and draw help. He's also quicker and a better passer. Dylan is a shoot first PG with great size and average quickness.
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No just scoring, running the offense. I am sure he will be happy if Ace scores more than him.
Of course he will, he puts tremendous pressure on the defense, as does Ace. The thing about great players is they can beat double teams they need to, and they can also move the ball to other players for wide open shots.
And I would have. I am just going by probabilities of a player near his ranking goes one and done.
With NIL paying players more than they might get as 2nd round NBA players we really shouldn’t see more than 10-20 one and dones every year.
I believe in his talent. I just think people don’t have realistic expectations.
He might draw the opponents best defender. He may have that defender not in helping mode as others might. He isn’t getting double teamed.
Guards don't get double teamed in the Big Ten unless they're being trapped as part of a press. Ace might be double teamed when he is down low.
As a side note, Dellquan Warren committed to Mississippi State.
Not sure why biting at greene’s typical and tired contrarian for sake of being a contrarian view. We get it, he’d rather have a team like FDU at RU.
In the games where Dylan might look defensively lazy, how many of those were close wins, or losses
At the college level I would suspect games will be much closer , and if Dylan wants to win he will work on defense
I can guess that some offensive high school! Superstars are the same, all offense because winning is or was easy
He must have some sort of information.
I believe the prevailing "inside information" was for a commitment by September 10th - to coincide with RHJ leaving or something.
If he is getting to the basket and getting his primary defender in foul trouble, teams will be doubling to try to keep him out of the paint.
This part of the conversation started with another poster stating “if Gavin has a big year” and I was responding to that. If he has a big year, which to me if averaging 14+ points and shooting over 40% on 3s, he is likely getting drafted after his freshman year. If he is solid and an important contributor at around 10-11 points a game, he will be back.
There is a difference between help and double teaming. Yes, when he beats his guy off the dribble he will force help and with good vision it would create opportunities for others.
I think performing is very important in the eyes of the NBA scouts/executives. However I think they have the ability to know what a player can do irrespective of the results on the floor. NBA scouts knew Luka Garza wasn’t a NBA player and they think Brice Sensabaugh is.
Obviously they will be looking at how he adjusts at the higher level and how is game translates to the next level. Getting hot for 2 weeks and knocking down open 3s won’t necessarily move the needle. Having no problem getting shots off against long and established defenders would impress.
RU is on the verge of getting two of the top 3 HS players in the country and the usual suspects are debating the impact with a negative slant. What a whiny clueless group.
Truly amazing the takes on this board sometimes......
Thinking Dylan will have the ball in his hands making plays is more realistic than thinking he won't be
I looked at his U19 stats for US basketball whatever. He averaged 3.0 APG in about 19 minutes and he is listed as a combo guard so it does seem like he has some “1” in him. The HS game I watched he was more of a wing.
I am amending/changing my view.
Dylan needs to be more of a scorer at Bosco but distributes more when he's surrounded by more talent like USA bball and AAU
He can both score and distribute. Hopefully he has a good feel for the right balance as a freshman based on what the team needs in a given game
1 - Great high school players do not adjust their defense to the level of the competition.
2- Dylan is not going from playing little defense to becoming a good defender in one year.
3. He played virtually no defense vs. Camden and it was a close game throughout as I remember.
THIS. Just remember, Kentucky had 8 5* commits in 2000, 2021 and 2022, most of whom committed because they believed Calipari would get them NBA ready rather quickly. They lost to St. Peters in the first round last year largely because they had trouble covering 3* players' Having kids who are quick, fast, share the ball, shoot the three, and play great defense will get you to the final four. I'm not saying Dylan won't, but as Ace said, we'll be great with or without him.
Well, for a one and done player he won’t be a very good pro if not playing defense
You would think the other pros in the family would be advising him
He could become a good defensive player. He just needs to be willing and then work at it. I'm in the minority here, but while I think Ace will be a great NBA player and an eventual hall of famer, I think it's possible Dylan is not a one and done.
I call him a one and done because it is assumed by just about all here
After all, he would be the number one senior if not for the Flagg reclassification
That said, Ace seems to be the dynamic player and if I had to bet who would be the better pro, it would be Ace
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Hmmm, no Kansas or Auburn. Who are these insiders who had him taking trips to Dorothy's land and Backwood Bama?
