Dylan Grant stats

Degaz-RU

Heisman
Dec 19, 2002
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Dylan Grant is one of just two B1G players who are in the top 15 in BOTH scoring and rebounding in the conference.

Grant is #8 in scoring at 19.3 ppg, and #12 in rebounds at 8.0 per game.

Nate Bittle of Oregon is #11 in scoring at 18.8 ppg, and #8 in rebounding at 9.8 per game.
 

LeapinLou

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Jul 24, 2001
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He's been the best player on the floor for either team through our first four games. I don't imagine that will change until we get to Vegas.
 
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goru7

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Dec 12, 2005
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His leap sophomore year is tremendous. It started with his working on his handle and dribbling. Now he has the confidence to put it on the floor and try to dunk it everytime. His emphasis on attacking the rim is real and happening almost every time. He has to be a little careful as he got 2 charge calls and needs to know when he has to pull up and hit short jumper and avoid the charge .
 

goru7

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He's been the best player on the floor for either team through our first four games. I don't imagine that will change until we get to Vegas.
Interesting. He will be our best player all season. Tennessee has one of the fab frosh named Nate Ament. I think they will be matched up against one another
 
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RUDiddy777

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Feb 26, 2015
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His leap sophomore year is tremendous. It started with his working on his handle and dribbling. Now he has the confidence to put it on the floor and try to dunk it everytime. His emphasis on attacking the rim is real and happening almost every time. He has to be a little careful as he got 2 charge calls and needs to know when he has to pull up and hit short jumper and avoid the charge .

I got mocked for it - but I think he’s going to be deceptively good from behind the arc as well.
 
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RU82

Heisman
Jun 7, 2001
31,299
30,646
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Enjoy it because if he keeps playing like this he’ll be gone next year for a nice bag.
 
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seansherm

Heisman
Feb 20, 2009
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Interesting that he has been very selective taking very few 3’s this year and last year he was jacking it up the minute he got the pass. He is in full attack mode which is a tremendous mindset.
He's taken his three point rate from 40% of his shots to less than 8%. Playing a completely different game.
 
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satnom

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Jun 28, 2002
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Dylan Grant is one of just two B1G players who are in the top 15 in BOTH scoring and rebounding in the conference.

Grant is #8 in scoring at 19.3 ppg, and #12 in rebounds at 8.0 per game.

Nate Bittle of Oregon is #11 in scoring at 18.8 ppg, and #8 in rebounding at 9.8 per game.
Fake news. Everyone on Rutgers sucks and wouldn’t be a backup at any other BIG school.

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PhillyRU

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Interesting that he has been very selective taking very few 3’s this year and last year he was jacking it up the minute he got the pass. He is in full attack mode which is a tremendous mindset.
I'd like to see him find a bit of a balance. He's made two of his three attempted 3s so far, and the strong free-throw numbers are potentially predictive of him being a pretty good perimeter shooter.
 

goru7

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I'd like to see him find a bit of a balance. He's made two of his three attempted 3s so far, and the strong free-throw numbers are potentially predictive of him being a pretty good perimeter shooter.
He is a good 3 point shooter but his attack mode has gotten him to the line where he has been terrific. He was 9-10 against Lehigh and 7-9 against American. Getting almost double digit foul attempts bodes extremely well going forward . Would like him to spray it out to the Euros for 3 when driving and he is picked up. Yes , he can shoot more than 1 per game but scoring 28 and 22 taking only 1 three in 2 games is tremendous. Lehigh and American were a level up from Maine and Rider. He will continue to be tested. Next week in Vegas will be interesting
 
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RUfan1977

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Grant is a star. I’m not sure he knows it yet and a lot of our “fans” haven’t figured it out yet either. They will.
The coaches in the Big Ten are really grand they have a lot of good defensive players. Grant has played so well that a big part of opposing teams game plan will be how to stop him.
 
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PiscatawayMike

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
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Interesting. He will be our best player all season. Tennessee has one of the fab frosh named Nate Ament. I think they will be matched up against one another
Really interested in seeing Ament in Vegas. He's the Ace Bailey of this class. His size and skills are very similar to Bailey's. He's expected to be a top 10 pick in the 2026 NBA Draft.
 

richthedentist

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He's taken his three point rate from 40% of his shots to less than 8%. Playing a completely different game.
That may have to do with the competition and the lack of size
I think when we get into the BIG schedule he will be shooting more 3’s going inside will be a lot more difficult
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Feb 18, 2008
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He is a good 3 point shooter but his attack mode has gotten him to the line where he has been terrific. He was 9-10 against Lehigh and 7-9 against American. Getting almost double digit foul attempts bodes extremely well going forward . Would like him to spray it out to the Euros for 3 when driving and he is picked up. Yes , he can shoot more than 1 per game but scoring 28 and 22 taking only 1 three in 2 games is tremendous. Lehigh and American were a level up from Maine and Rider. He will continue to be tested. Next week in Vegas will be interesting

I try to be mostly positive on here, but I’ll be very surprised if Zrno becomes a major contributor this season. Players do develop on D but it takes time. Spinning this more as a positive, the reason I think he won’t see much time is because even with his height deficiencies Francis at this point surprisingly is miles head of him just in terms of defensive scheming understanding. Francis’ offense will likely take a hit when the competition steps up but again, he’s way ahead of Zrno there too even with being shorter. I’m just not seeing a scenario where Zrno is taking time from him at the two because he’s so far right now from using his height advantage on either end (relatively). He can shoot the ball, but his game on offense (like PJ) seems to require someone to get him the ball on space so again I don’t think he’s going to outshine Tariq there either for starter minutes. Would love to be wrong on this but it’s what I see right now - maybe 10is back up min. Mark has more potential for in season development because of his natural speed (to be like Grant was last year). Agree on your point with Denis - would love to see more kick out plays to him. Just wouldn’t bucket the Euros together as Denis is far ahead of Zrno right now.
 
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RAC’emUp

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I try to be mostly positive on here, but I’ll be very surprised if Zrno becomes a major contributor this season. Players do develop on D but it takes time. Spinning this more as a positive, the reason I think he won’t see much time is because even with his height deficiencies Francis at this point surprisingly is miles head of him just in terms of defensive scheming understanding. Francis’ offense will likely take a hit when the competition steps up but again, he’s way ahead of Zrno there too even with being shorter. I’m just not seeing a scenario where Zrno is taking time from him at the two because he’s so far right now from using his height advantage on either end (relatively). He can shoot the ball, but his game on offense (like PJ) seems to require someone to get him the ball on space so again I don’t think he’s going to outshine Tariq there either for starter minutes. Would love to be wrong on this but it’s what I see right now - maybe 10is back up min. Mark has more potential for in season development because of his natural speed (to be like Grant was last year). Agree on your point with Denis - would love to see more kick out plays to him. Just wouldn’t bucket the Euros together as Denis is far ahead of Zrno right now.
I think the jury is still out on Zrno’s 3 point shot. Badalau will become a very good player.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Feb 18, 2008
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I think the jury is still out on Zrno’s 3 point shot. Badalau will become a very good player.

Yeah… I’m not even going there. What I’m saying is even assuming it’s true that he can shoot the 3 ball well (like PJ) it looks to me like we will have better options available than riding him 20+ minutes a game. Particularly because Tariq is a career 33.6% three point shooter on very high volume. Even if that dips some with playing better competition and Zrno maintains his 36% - that metric is not apples to apples for them. Tariq’s portfolio of 3s isn’t confined to catch and shoot. He takes (and can make) transition 3s off the dribble, step back 3s etc. That’s an important consideration because it’s not dependent on our ability to run half court offense effectively.

Again - there are some questions about Tariq’s ability to get those shots off as well against bigger players - but he literally does everything else better than Zrno too. He’s a way better ball handler, passer, great FT shooter, good rebounding guard - chases down the long ones, and much better understanding on where to be on D. Just a massive hurdle for Zrno to overcome to replace him for meaningful minutes. He doesn’t seem to have any other moves besides catch and shoot. Tariq seems like JY in terms of sometimes forcing it but Pike knows how to sub out and calm kids down. Hes not going to let Francis chuck up a million bad shots. When Tariq is off - we already saw, he pulled him. That will still happen but in all likelihood it will be Buchanan not Zrno replacing him.
 

BillyC80

Heisman
Oct 23, 2006
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Zrno is averaging 9 minutes per game and that feels about right to me. I’ve posted that he should get around 10 minutes per game, as we need a sniper to inject some points and spread the D.

PJ is a good comparison, except the problem I had with PJ is that he didn’t look for his shot enough, and too often turned down open looks from deep.

Zrno on the other hand appears to be looking to shoot (and so far hitting 36% from deep), which is his job. I believe he’ll be a net positive playing that role for us.
 

seansherm

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Feb 20, 2009
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Yeah… I’m not even going there. What I’m saying is even assuming it’s true that he can shoot the 3 ball well (like PJ) it looks to me like we will have better options available than riding him 20+ minutes a game. Particularly because Tariq is a career 33.6% three point shooter on very high volume. Even if that dips some with playing better competition and Zrno maintains his 36% - that metric is not apples to apples for them. Tariq’s portfolio of 3s isn’t confined to catch and shoot. He takes (and can make) transition 3s off the dribble, step back 3s etc. That’s an important consideration because it’s not dependent on our ability to run half court offense effectively.

Again - there are some questions about Tariq’s ability to get those shots off as well against bigger players - but he literally does everything else better than Zrno too. He’s a way better ball handler, passer, great FT shooter, good rebounding guard - chases down the long ones, and much better understanding on where to be on D. Just a massive hurdle for Zrno to overcome to replace him for meaningful minutes. He doesn’t seem to have any other moves besides catch and shoot. Tariq seems like JY in terms of sometimes forcing it but Pike knows how to sub out and calm kids down. Hes not going to let Francis chuck up a million bad shots. When Tariq is off - we already saw, he pulled him. That will still happen but in all likelihood it will be Buchanan not Zrno replacing him.
I agree that Francis is going to have to play for his ball handling, but think we need Zrno as well. We are getting guys into the paint, mostly Grant and DB, but too often whomever is open to kick out to is a guy we don't want shooting. Zrno seems willing to let fly. Not sure Pike will tolerate the defensive breakdowns though.
 

RUPete90

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I'd like to see him find a bit of a balance. He's made two of his three attempted 3s so far, and the strong free-throw numbers are potentially predictive of him being a pretty good perimeter shooter.
The free throw numbers and form alone are enough for me to worship at the altar of Dylan Grant.
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
13,087
12,428
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I agree that Francis is going to have to play for his ball handling, but think we need Zrno as well. We are getting guys into the paint, mostly Grant and DB, but too often whomever is open to kick out to is a guy we don't want shooting. Zrno seems willing to let fly. Not sure Pike will tolerate the defensive breakdowns though.

The point I was making was that when J Mike is running the point, and it’s between Zrno or Francis to put at the 2, I’m simply not seeing a path where Zrno becomes the preferred option except maybe a few games where he shoots lights out (like Oskar did a couple times). I just don’t see Zrno’s height providing an advantage over Francis on anything (it’s not going to help him on D because he has miles and miles to go and I don’t see him being able to do more on offense simply because he’s bigger - because his success requires him to be open. It’s not like he’s going to be using his size to overpower or shoot over people - he just doesn’t appear to be that type of player. Unfortunately, we’re not going to be able to play JMike, Francis and Zrno all together on the defensive end.
 
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seansherm

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The point I was making was that when J Mike is running the point, and it’s between Zrno or Francis to put at the 2, I’m simply not seeing a path where Zrno becomes the preferred option except maybe a few games where he shoots lights out (like Oskar did a couple times). I just don’t see Zrno’s height providing an advantage over Francis on anything (it’s not going to help him on D because he has miles and miles to go and I don’t see him being able to do more on offense simply because he’s bigger - because his success requires him to be open. It’s not like he’s going to be using his size to overpower or shoot over people - he just doesn’t appear to be that type of player. Unfortunately, we’re not going to be able to play JMike, Francis and Zrno all together on the defensive end.
No, but can play JMike, DB, and Zrno together at points w DG and and another.
 

RUfan1977

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I'd like to see him find a bit of a balance. He's made two of his three attempted 3s so far, and the strong free-throw numbers are potentially predictive of him being a pretty good perimeter shooter.
He hit 2 of 3 so he might have greatly improved. Last year he shot 10 of 43 from 3, so he really hasn’t shown he can hit the 3 consistently. His free throw shooting has definitely improved and his driving and plays around the basket have definitely improved, so I wouldn’t be surprised if his 3 point shooting has improved too!
 
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PhillyRU

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He hit 2 of 3 so he might have greatly improved. Last year he shot 10 of 43 from 3, so he really hasn’t shown he can hit the 3 consistently. His free throw shooting has definitely improved and his driving and plays around the basket have definitely improved, so I wouldn’t be surprised if his 3 point shooting has improved too!
The bigger thing to me is, despite actually shooting a decent percentage so far, we once again have among the lowest 3-point attempt to field goal attempt ratios in the country.

If Grant can make them at a decent clip, he should take more imo. Same goes for JMike, it’s important for spacing
 

PSAL_Hoops

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No, but can play JMike, DB, and Zrno together at points w DG and and another.
Yes - you can. But what function is that serving in place of having Francis with J Mike and DB other than to give Francis a breather? Zrno’s height isn’t helping him be better at anything than Francis right now. Francis is better than him right now at everything.
 

seansherm

Heisman
Feb 20, 2009
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Yes - you can. But what function is that serving in place of having Francis with J Mike and DB other than to give Francis a breather? Zrno’s height isn’t helping him be better at anything than Francis right now. Francis is better than him right now at everything.
Key point is right now, against poor comp. Zrno height and strength may come in more handy on defense down the line when Francis isn't faster than the comp. Neither one of them can stay in front of someone. Defense hasn't been great, its only going to get worse as the comp heats up. Now, I think it will end up DB, not Zrno, that takes TF minutes, but that's just another non shooter.
 

goru7

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The bigger thing to me is, despite actually shooting a decent percentage so far, we once again have among the lowest 3-point attempt to field goal attempt ratios in the country.

If Grant can make them at a decent clip, he should take more imo. Same goes for JMike, it’s important for spacing
Yes but we just have to shoot well and if that means winning the paint 40-20 that is fine. The key is the defense. If our 3 point defense doesn’t allow 8 or more threes then we do not have to jack up many more threes . We are shooting 14-20 a game which is good and not jacking. Now if we are getting killed from 3 then we have to shoot more and hit more threes . Getting to the line is really important and our team is doing that well so far.
 

goru7

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Key point is right now, against poor comp. Zrno height and strength may come in more handy on defense down the line when Francis isn't faster than the comp. Neither one of them can stay in front of someone. Defense hasn't been great, its only going to get worse as the comp heats up. Now, I think it will end up DB, not Zrno, that takes TF minutes, but that's just another non shooter.
PSAL putting too much love on Francis. He is shooting too much and his defense is not so outstanding that you elevate him above Zrno . We need Denis and Zrno to shoot , preferably kick out threes after penetration by Dylan , Buchanan or Jmike and even getting passes from Francis. If Pike insists on letting Francis run high pick and roll , he has to look to pass without shooting every single time and preferably a good pass that gets kicked out for a three or a corner three. Francis is going to challenged in conference much more.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Feb 18, 2008
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Key point is right now, against poor comp. Zrno height and strength may come in more handy on defense down the line when Francis isn't faster than the comp. Neither one of them can stay in front of someone. Defense hasn't been great, its only going to get worse as the comp heats up. Now, I think it will end up DB, not Zrno, that takes TF minutes, but that's just another non shooter.

DB is not “taking” Francis’ minutes because he is already playing 21 mpg vs Francis’ 28.5 mpg. It’s much more likely he absorbs minutes from other guys being in foul trouble or is running with a shorter bench. He slides 2-5 so Buchanan is going to play a ton by default, The only way Zeno averages double digit minutes is at the 2 and again, there’s nothing about his height that is going to help his issues on D. He is materially worse than Francis right now at very facets of D that seem unlikely to be correctable within a couple months. It took Chol 3-4 years and going back several levels to gain experience to finally be a servicable D1 player this season. Zrno’s issues appear to be like that. PJ similar situation though he got away with his D at a lesser D1 school but same idea. Taller player but the issues not related to size. Zrno’s reaction time and foot speed just don’t look to be quick enough right now at a high major level.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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PSAL putting too much love on Francis. He is shooting too much and his defense is not so outstanding that you elevate him above Zrno . We need Denis and Zrno to shoot , preferably kick out threes after penetration by Dylan , Buchanan or Jmike and even getting passes from Francis. If Pike insists on letting Francis run high pick and roll , he has to look to pass without shooting every single time and preferably a good pass that gets kicked out for a three or a corner three. Francis is going to challenged in conference much more.

I don’t think Francis’ D is great, but his D is way better than Zrno’s at the moment. I’d classify it as playable at the high major level and I didn’t think it would be so for me that’s exceeding expectations. There is a reason Zrno is only averaging 9 mpg and it’s that. Right now he’s trending like Chol, PJ, Peter Kiss ,etc. good shooters who didn’t play enough D to see time in Pike’s system.

Francis at the moment, is also materially better than Zrno at all other aspects of offense other than perimeter shooting. Among those things - only getting to the rim correlates with size concerns down the road. He’s very clearly a better ball handler and passer than Zrno and he looks to be a better rebounder and at chasing down loose balls. Zrno’s reaction time is slow.

You say Francis shoots too much which may be true but Zrno hasn’t looked to be a better decision maker. He looks shaky every time he gets the ball other than when he’s hitting a 3. So it’s that too.

In crunch time of a close game, Francis will also always be on the floor - career 80% FT shooter and one of the best ball handlers on the team. Situationally - I’m just not seeing where Zrno brings relative value unless he starts showing stuff we haven’t seen yet. Remember - I’m saying “relative”.
 
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seansherm

Heisman
Feb 20, 2009
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PSAL putting too much love on Francis. He is shooting too much and his defense is not so outstanding that you elevate him above Zrno . We need Denis and Zrno to shoot , preferably kick out threes after penetration by Dylan , Buchanan or Jmike and even getting passes from Francis. If Pike insists on letting Francis run high pick and roll , he has to look to pass without shooting every single time and preferably a good pass that gets kicked out for a three or a corner three. Francis is going to challenged in conference much more.
I tend to agree with you, despite TF showing a little more ability/smarts/lack of selfishness than I expected. We do need his ball handling at times, so hes definitely a rotation guy, and I dont mind a guy w his confidence off the bench.
 

goru7

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I don’t think Francis’ D is great, but his D is way better than Zrno’s at the moment. I’d classify it as playable at the high major level and I didn’t think it would be so for me that’s exceeding expectations. There is a reason Zrno is only averaging 9 mpg and it’s that. Right now he’s trending like Chol, PJ, Peter Kiss ,etc. good shooters who didn’t play enough D to see time in Pike’s system.
Not enough of a sample size and leaving no room for improvement. I think both Euros will help us a lot come conference time or against better competition.
 

seansherm

Heisman
Feb 20, 2009
14,030
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DB is not “taking” Francis’ minutes because he is already playing 21 mpg vs Francis’ 28.5 mpg. It’s much more likely he absorbs minutes from other guys being in foul trouble or is running with a shorter bench. He slides 2-5 so Buchanan is going to play a ton by default, The only way Zeno averages double digit minutes is at the 2 and again, there’s nothing about his height that is going to help his issues on D. He is materially worse than Francis right now at very facets of D that seem unlikely to be correctable within a couple months. It took Chol 3-4 years and going back several levels to gain experience to finally be a servicable D1 player this season. Zrno’s issues appear to be like that. PJ similar situation though he got away with his D at a lesser D1 school but same idea. Taller player but the issues not related to size. Zrno’s reaction time and foot speed just don’t look to be quick enough right now at a high major level.
If that moves to DBJr playing 28 and TF 20, hes taking the minutes, unless Badalau starts to lose time too. Zrno probably isn't a 2, but we dont have any, so it would be by default that's where he plays.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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If that moves to DBJr playing 28 and TF 20, hes taking the minutes, unless Badalau starts to lose time too. Zrno probably isn't a 2, but we dont have any, so it would be by default that's where he plays.

First of all, I don’t think Pike wants J Mike or anyone playing 33 mpg. He’s been search ing to find a combo that can get J Mike down to the 28-30 mpg range. My guess is it’s going to be Francis / Buchanan and those 3 will become the core guard rotation at about 28ish each or more. There will be games Lino Mark doesn’t get into especially early in conference play. And games where some of the Bigs are in foul trouble and Buchanan slides over. If Zrno’s D doesn’t improve those others will be absorbing his minutes too in most games. Pike doesn’t play guys who burn him on D.