Dylan Grant about to get PAID

[S_Janowski]

See above. Interested in your guess

Hmmm I don’t see where you posted those same teams and listed all the freshman who weren’t getting minutes.

We play more freshman than anyone by far.

Grant probably should have been given a chance a little earlier…either way this would of had very little impact on the season.

 

[dfr1966]

How many scholly top 150 frosh are in the big ten? Of those what % would you guess didnt play opening night? I know the number but curious what you think it is.

I'll ask again because you didn't answer the first time. Hoe many of those freshmen didn't play high school ball the year before?

 

[Jtung230]

We are starting 4 freshman and people are acting like Pike makes them ride the pine until their 4th year. I love how we credit Pike for the development of someone like JMike, but don't believe that practices have anything to do with said development.

People are crediting Pike for JMike? Lmk when he develops Williams.

 

[seansherm]

Are you suggesting that Grant was so bad in practice that he earned 0 (zero) minutes in the 5 games (PSU, SHU, Princeton, Columbia, Indiana) leading up to Wisconsin, where he suddenly “earned” 16 minutes, and subsequently has averaged 20 minutes (even before EO got hurt)?

Was he was dogging it so much in practice that he did not deserve 5-7 minutes per game leading up to that Wisconsin game, and then 2 good practices skyrocketed him to 20 minutes per game?

C’mon. I find that hard to believe.

I don't think earning it in practice necessarily means you are good or bad in practice. For most coaches its about putting in the work, and it can take freshman a while to acclimate to the amount of work necessary at this level. Add in that Grant didn't play last year and there is nothing surprising about it taking a while for the coaches to trust to put him out there.
I think he probably got out there for Wisconsin because Ace and Davis had foul issues, Dylan didn't play much, Pike was finally giving up on the Martini as a major player - a number of things. The team had to rebound better, had to play better D, needed more length.

 

[Local Shill]

Let's just sum it all up and say the last 66 games have been mostly a disaster on the court for this program. This is much more than a 1 year blip at this point.

The coach who is paid multiple millions of dollars a year is ultimately responsible for the product on the floor.

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

excellent point

As much as I am a huge backer of Pike, if he can't keep guys like Sommerville, Grant etc, then its time for a change

can't wash, rinse, repeat every year

Pretty much sums it up.

 

[BillyC80]

I don't think earning it in practice necessarily means you are good or bad in practice. For most coaches its about putting in the work, and it can take freshman a while to acclimate to the amount of work necessary at this level. Add in that Grant didn't play last year and there is nothing surprising about it taking a while for the coaches to trust to put him out there.
I think he probably got out there for Wisconsin because Ace and Davis had foul issues, Dylan didn't play much, Pike was finally giving up on the Martini as a major player - a number of things. The team had to rebound better, had to play better D, needed more length.

Totally agree that Pike should have given up on Martini sooner (I assume you agree since you said ‘finally’), and that we needed more length and rebounding.

I started to question Martini’s value when he played 19 minutes at KSU and grabbed 1 rebound. Not good for a supposed 4/5 man, in a 2-point loss where one more rebound could have made a difference.

He followed that up with 0 (zero) rebounds in 20 minutes versus Notre Dame, and subsequently 0 (zero) rebounds in 9 minutes at OSU, 0 (zero) rebounds in 8 minutes vs SHU, 1 rebound in 20 minutes vs Princeton in a 1-point loss where an extra rebound could have made a difference, and 0 (zero) rebounds in 10 minutes vs Columbia.

That’s 4 games where Grant did not even play, yet had the same number of rebounds as Martini.

 

[seansherm]

Totally agree that Pike should have given up on Martini sooner (I assume you agree since you said ‘finally’), and that we needed more length and rebounding.

I started to question Martini’s value when he played 19 minutes at KSU and grabbed 1 rebound. Not good for a supposed 4/5 man, in a 2-point loss where one more rebound could have made a difference.

He followed that up with 0 (zero) rebounds in 20 minutes versus Notre Dame, and subsequently 0 (zero) rebounds in 9 minutes at OSU, 0 (zero) rebounds in 8 minutes vs SHU, 1 rebound in 20 minutes vs Princeton in a 1-point loss where an extra rebound could have made a difference, and 0 (zero) rebounds in 10 minutes vs Columbia.

That’s 4 games where Grant did not even play, yet had the same number of rebounds as Martini.

Yeah, I never liked the Martini pick up from the beginning, at least if being thought of as a starter level player. He wasn't a good rebounder in the IVY, there was no way he was going to become one here now.

 

[NJ-Hoops17]

excellent point

As much as I am a huge backer of Pike, if he can't keep guys like Sommerville, Grant etc, then its time for a change

can't wash, rinse, repeat every year

Agreed. That's how you build a consistent, winning program. RU has to primarily utilize NIL to keep the best core players (Sommerville, Grant, etc.), then adding to said core with high school recruits and transfers (ideally just 1-3 transfers each year so you can concentrate remaining NIL to recruit players from Power 5 programs).

If Pike can't consistently build the roster this way then he's just not going to have great teams in the NIL and transfer portal environment.

 

[tru2ru1]

How many scholly top 150 frosh are in the big ten? Of those what % would you guess didnt play opening night? I know the number but curious what you think it is.

How many of them sat out their Senior year of High School from playing basketball?

 

[KK1827]

How many of them sat out their Senior year of High School from playing basketball?

This I find to be a silly line of thinking. You guys are acting like Grant didn't pick up a basketball for a year when reality is, while he didn't play on his high school team with their name on the front of his jersey, he played tons of competitive ball in that time frame.

I hope one day my family loves me and defends me as much as you guys defend pike haha. Guy can do no wrong in your eyes.