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[Bob Mayonnaise]

No not Lemonis.

You pathetic morons clamoring for Sims. No. You don’t bring in Sims in a tied ballgame when it’s not an elimination game. He could easily throw 4 shut out innings and we don’t score a run and lose. Then what? You absolutely don’t do that and it’s not debatable.

Mississippi State has very knowledgeable baseball fans. Beat in the nation. Just very few post here.

 

[wsjmsu75]

No not Lemonis.

You pathetic morons clamoring for Sims. No. You don’t bring in Sims in a tied ballgame when it’s not an elimination game. He could easily throw 4 shut out innings and we don’t score a run and lose. Then what? You absolutely don’t do that and it’s not debatable.

Mississippi State has very knowledgeable baseball fans. Beat in the nation. Just very few post here.

No he could not easily throw 4 shutout innings. I say let him pitch the 9th ONLY and give us a chance to win with TA, James and Hancock due up. As others have said, we had all the momentum and we let it slip away. But yeah, by all means let's just forfeit this one and have Sims good and fresh for tomorrow when we may or may not have any real reason to use him.

 

[Phil Wenneck.sixpack]

Dear God. Who’s calling for Sims to pitch 4 innings?

Not a single damn post I’ve read. The consensus of those of us who wanted Sims in the 9th was based off pitching him 1 inning and gambling on your 2-3-4 hitters coming to the plate in a tie game against a Texas bullpen who was struggling to throw strikes. If it doesn’t work out, you take him out after just 1 inning. We’ve coddled him all year waiting for this moment. It comes and we start worrying about what might happen. Championships aren’t won that way.

 

[irondawg007]

Those arguing keeping Sims for tomorrow don’t realize that champions take risks and win while the momentum is yours to take. If we end up winning tomorrow great, but what if we get down 5-1 tomorrow. What good does Sims do tomorrow? We had the line up set for us in the bottom of the 9th. We simply chose to play it safe. Texas made us pay.

 

[wsjmsu75]

Not a single damn post I’ve read. The consensus of those of us who wanted Sims in the 9th was based off pitching him 1 inning and gambling on your 2-3-4 hitters coming to the plate in a tie game against a Texas bullpen who was struggling to throw strikes. If it doesn’t work out, you take him out after just 1 inning. We’ve coddled him all year waiting for this moment. It comes and we start worrying about what might happen. Championships aren’t won that way.

Exactly.

 

[Drebin]

Those arguing keeping Sims for tomorrow don’t realize that champions take risks and win while the momentum is yours to take. If we end up winning tomorrow great, but what if we get down 5-1 tomorrow. What good does Sims do tomorrow? We had the line up set for us in the bottom of the 9th. We simply chose to play it safe. Texas made us pay.

You can't argue facts with folks that don't understand what it takes to win but think they know what it takes to win. But I admire your effort.

 

[wsjmsu75]

Those arguing keeping Sims for tomorrow don’t realize that champions take risks and win while the momentum is yours to take. If we end up winning tomorrow great, but what if we get down 5-1 tomorrow. What good does Sims do tomorrow? We had the line up set for us in the bottom of the 9th. We simply chose to play it safe. Texas made us pay.

Exactly.

 

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

I’ll just say we got out coached during the entire ballgame tonight!
This loss is on you Lemonis

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

No he could not easily throw 4 shutout innings. I say let him pitch the 9th ONLY and give us a chance to win with TA, James and Hancock due up. As others have said, we had all the momentum and we let it slip away. But yeah, by all means let's just forfeit this one and have Sims good and fresh for tomorrow when we may or may not have any real reason to use him.

Have to agree with this. You have to go for the win right there after getting the momentum back m. Had 234 up. He is a closer. Let him close. Play for today not tomorrow. Winning today set us up perfectly for championship. Winning tomorrow is just trying to stay alive. That’s been the biggest problem with msu sports. We don’t play with a winners mentality snd win today attitude. It’s been what’s holding us back in baseball too. Win today and you have s shot at the title. Win tomorrow snd your chance goes down. College sports is so much tied to momentum. We had it. You bring sims and he shuts them down there the place stays electric and our batters are juiced in the 9th. Instead you ask a guy to come in and hold the line in 9th that isn’t used to doing that at all. That’s Simms mindset. Come in keep the door closed. 234 gets to come in snd finish it. Don’t play for the if.

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

We weren’t getting 3 innings out of Sims in that situation. You were only getting 1 because of the rain. So if we had pulled ahead in the 8th, he was coming into close it out in the 9th. Since we didn’t pull ahead in the 8th, we would go with other options in the 9th and go to Sims coming out of the delay in the 10th if we hadn’t yet won it.

 

[Drebin]

Most major league teams bring their closers in to pitch the ninth in tie games when they are the home team. Why? Because it's baseball 101.

If Lemonis coaches 50 years, he will always regret his decision making tonight.

 

[skb124]

The fact that’s what you think people calling for sims were advocating for, shows that it is actually you who don’t know baseball. We wanted Sims to come shut them down for one inning. He then is not wasted for today, if necessary. We had a huge inning in the 8th, all the momentum, and our 2,3,4 coming up in the ninth. Arkansas also had the top of their order up, and we allowed our lesser bullpen arms to throw to them. That ninth inning is when you needed a shut down inning. We had the option to bring in our shut down guy and we didn’t. It was a bad call, that most managers would not have made. 100% chance Kopps is in in that exact situation. We had a chance to clinch the championship berth last night with our rotation set for the national championship series. We played conservatively, and instead we have to pitch Bednar tonight, and there’s no guarantee we are even in a position to use Sims tonight.

Hopefully all of this is meaningless, but if we lose tonight, a ton of you are going to be changing your tunes tonight. If we win tonight, great, but we lost our best arm in the process, ala Graveman in 2013.

 

[paindonthurt_]

You can pretend you are right all you want but 90% plus all coaches agree with lemonis on this.

But keep being smarter than EVERYONE else.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Go ahead and link some sort of proof of this.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

No not Lemonis.

You pathetic morons clamoring for Sims. No. You don’t bring in Sims in a tied ballgame when it’s not an elimination game. He could easily throw 4 shut out innings and we don’t score a run and lose. Then what? You absolutely don’t do that and it’s not debatable.

Mississippi State has very knowledgeable baseball fans. Beat in the nation. Just very few post here.

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[PineGroveBully]

1929551[/URL]]Not a single damn post I’ve read. The consensus of those of us who wanted Sims in the 9th was based off pitching him 1 inning and gambling on your 2-3-4 hitters coming to the plate in a tie game against a Texas bullpen who was struggling to throw strikes. If it doesn’t work out, you take him out after just 1 inning. We’ve coddled him all year waiting for this moment. It comes and we start worrying about what might happen. Championships aren’t won that way.

Did you not read the original post to which you replied. He himself was asking for 4 innings

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

No he could not easily throw 4 shutout innings. I say let him pitch the 9th ONLY and give us a chance to win with TA, James and Hancock due up. As others have said, we had all the momentum and we let it slip away. But yeah, by all means let's just forfeit this one and have Sims good and fresh for tomorrow when we may or may not have any real reason to use him.

What if we bring in Sims and:

He gives up two walks and a dinger as well?
Sims gets Covid from the mound from NC State pitchers?
He takes a line drive off his ankle?
He injuries his arm?

If Stinnet pitches as well as he has previously no one would be saying ****. That said, when we win tonight after Sims throws 4 innings no one will care anymore.

 

[PineGroveBully]

Don’t act like there are definite facts on either side of the argument. Adults can disagree. But don’t act like you wrote the book on baseball logic. Sims could have came in and gotten rocked and you’d be no more right or wrong than you are now. You’re better than that Drebin. Much like your comment about my not having common sense because I disagreed. You can think I’m/we’re wrong but you can’t argue that there wasn’t logic behind our argument. Anyone that watched Sims Tuesday night knows it was not a nobrainer on bringing him in, no matter on which side of the argument you fall.

 

[Scottfield1]

MLB

Most major league teams bring their closers in to pitch the ninth in tie games when they are the home team. Why? Because it's baseball 101.

If Lemonis coaches 50 years, he will always regret his decision making tonight.

This isn’t MLB. How quickly fans forget the pitching changes vs Virginia Lemonis made that were perfect. Because he forgot baseball 101 the next day. Idiots

 

[PineGroveBully]

You’re ignoring the fact that in 6 days he had thrown the highest leveraged 70 pitches of his career. Those pitches in those situations were akin to throwing 110 pitches in a week in April.

 

[Duggar Hall Desk]

I get it (the OP opinion), but it's a gamble either way, and we lost the bet last night. We can "what if" ourselves into next season. For instance, if we get one more hit in the bottom of the eighth, this isn't even a conversation.

The only thing that we can do is to come out tonight with an attitude like we did in G3 against Notre Dame.

 

[skb124]

In the last 3 days, the MLB has had 3 extra inning games. In each game, the home team pitched their closer in the ninth inning. The Angels threw Iglesias, the Blue Jays threw Romano, and the Brewers threw Hader. The fact that people are arguing against that basic baseball thinking, shows that a lot of you actually do not know baseball. It is very well-known to throw your closer in a tie ballgame if you are the home team. If you need more proof, I can't help you, because you just don't want to see it.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

If we had played to win last night we would be resting tonight. Now instead of having 2 days rest before the series we have one day. One day. We should have put our vest pitchers out there and won. Now we have to use them today so we can have the opportunity to play Monday. If we pitch Bednar and Sims tonight, which if we don't we probly lose, when will they be ready to pitch again ? Wednesday ? We won't be playing Wednesday without them so we will have to use them Tuesday or be eliminated

 

[Drebin]

Don’t act like there are definite facts on either side of the argument. Adults can disagree. But don’t act like you wrote the book on baseball logic. Sims could have came in and gotten rocked and you’d be no more right or wrong than you are now. You’re better than that Drebin. Much like your comment about my not having common sense because I disagreed. You can think I’m/we’re wrong but you can’t argue that there was logic behind my argument. Anyone that watched Sims Tuesday night knows it was not a nobrainer on bringing him in, no matter on which side of the argument you fall.

I didn't say you didn't have common sense. I said the decision to pitch sims last night should have been common sense to Lemonis. We lost a winnable game which has now been compounded by events with NC State/Vandy. We are in better shape than TX tonight but our margin for error is smaller and the pressure is heavier. And then even if we advance we are disadvantaged.

In the moment I thought it was an egregious, unforgivable mistake. After sleeping on it and reflecting on it, Im even more passionate about it. This isn't some preseason tournament....this is the national championship we are talking about here. We are not in a position to throw away opportunities at Mississippi State.

 

[PineGroveBully]

We also have to remember that Lemonis has more information than us. He watched Sim’s I’m sure in throw-around and warmups and probably knew exactly what he could ask of Sims and what he couldn’t. He has not hesitated to go to Sims at any point of the season in every situation. So if he didn’t do so in the biggest game of the season then it’s very likely that he knew something we didn’t that spurred his hesitancy.

 

[aerodawg.sixpack]

No not Lemonis.

You pathetic morons clamoring for Sims. No. You don’t bring in Sims in a tied ballgame when it’s not an elimination game. He could easily throw 4 shut out innings and we don’t score a run and lose. Then what? You absolutely don’t do that and it’s not debatable.

Mississippi State has very knowledgeable baseball fans. Beat in the nation. Just very few post here.

I agree. It’s 50/50 either way. The rain was the one thing that I thought pushed the decision to go with Stinnett. We are expecting a rain delay in that situation which we get right after. Anyone coming out on the mound at that point was being put in a bad situation with a tight strike zone and rain pouring down. It is what it is. But there was no obvious right call without being captain hindsight.