Duke game thread 8/15/18

[Rideordiewildcat]

Ryerson from what I could find last year only played schools in Canada and went 23-10. I don't know a single team they played, never heard of any of them. Take what you will from it, here's link:
http://www.ryersonrams.ca/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=109826&SPID=13629&DB_OEM_ID=22300&Q_SEASON=2017

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

I know they have two good players missing but they only have two good players playing. Can you have a good season with four players?

We had 2 good players missing LOL. (Of course not the same)

 

[Drcats2025]

you haven’t been around long enough to know kev69 then.

I’ve been around 10 years I’d say. Don’t get too caught up in the names of posters and what they represent (aside from the obvious ulismyman and smooth) but I can’t recall Kev seeming like a bad poster/poser fan.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

Cant watch. How does this team compare to our competition in Bahamas?

This team would probably finish last in the OVC. Noway they could beat even an EKU.

 

[tWildcat]

Ryersons top 3 players were down in the Bahamas for team Toronto if I read the article correctly. They're not playing this game.

 

[slam212121]

Ryersons top 3 players were down in the Bahamas for team Toronto if I read the article correctly. They're not playing this game.

Duke sucks. You read correctly.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

RYERSON

Good to know you'd base your number one pick in the NBA draft on one half of basketball by an 18 year old against RYERSON. If I ever have an NBA team I'll make sure not to hire you.

You guys need to chill. Zion hasn't really faced great competition in organized basketball in his life. I'll bet you right now when he goes up against UK for his first organized basketball game against real talent he won't look half as impressive.

Also Zion has been getting winded but it's easy to hit when there is zero defense. And as far as his defense it hasn't stood out at all so.

Barrett looks way under advertised if we're using this game to crown Zion. Duke needs 2 guys at least the level or more of Davis and MKG to win this title. They don't have that.

Dukes bench is showing why they rarely played too.

Exactly Zion still dunking on small white kids like in high school. Have to see him against real men just once. Plus at 285 he is going to get hit a ton before they blow the whistle, just the big man curse. Unless the Dook reffing keeps it from happening.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Unless the Dook reffing keeps it from happening.

Unless?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

you haven’t been around long enough to know kev69 then.

Kev69 isnt a bad poster. Not everyone will suck up to your point of view.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

If Dook gets in foul trouble or has one injury to one of their main guys their sunk. I don't see them as being that great anyway. Not against real competition.

 

[slam212121]

Kev69 isnt a bad poster. Not everyone will suck up to your point of view.

Not a point of view. Zion is slow. He’s fat. Keldon needs nutrition. Can’t wait you fat fucc.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Jordan Goldwire is the kid they brought in for the second half at PG (Jones injured). Sounds like they are living on thin ice with Jones injured or in foul trouble and still not convinced Jones is as good as his older brother anyway.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I'm most interested in how O'Connell, Jones, and Bolden end up playing this year.

We all know Duke's big three will combine for 50 to 55/game. Duke has to manufacture 25 to 30 points/game from those other guys, and I'm not sure they can make it happen.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

I would love to see them have to play the bemax team we played. Just to get a fair measuring stick.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

ESPN would have like a highlight of our MVP after each game. They already have like 3-4 highlights of the first half of Dook on their site. Posting live highlights against a joke of a team like they are so excited. Look burger boy is dunking over a team of rejects! Joke!

 

[ThePunk]

Duke has NO inside presence. They like to run and UK does to. I would foul RJ hard a couple times and Give Zion a tasty sandwich. Hold the mayo. Play them physical and put Johnson on Barrett and Washington on Zion. Switch every thing on them. I think we beat Duke 7-12 points going away. Bad match up for Duke.

 

[Snackbar11]

Whats the score , i quit watching...

 

[akaukswoosh]

ESPN would have like a highlight of our MVP after each game. They already have like 3-4 highlights of the first half of Dook on their site. Posting live highlights against a joke of a team like they are so excited. Look burger boy is dunking over a team of rejects! Joke!

No surprise and expect obnoxious Vitale going crazy with glee all year slurping this team,

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

Duke has NO inside presence. They like to run and UK does to. I would foul RJ hard a couple times and Give Zion a tasty sandwich. Hold the mayo. Play them physical and put Johnson on Barrett and Washington on Zion. Switch every thing on them. I think we beat Duke 7-12 points going away. Bad match up for Duke.

We just need to press and run burger boy to death. Tanks over the hills. They got no chance against us and I think we could embarrass them.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Duke has NO inside presence. They like to run and UK does to. I would foul RJ hard a couple times and Give Zion a tasty sandwich. Hold the mayo. Play them physical and put Johnson on Barrett and Washington on Zion. Switch every thing on them. I think we beat Duke 7-12 points going away. Bad match up for Duke.

Wouldn’t strongman Reid be assigned to Zion? Duke has three freshman forwards. We have a frosh, sophomore and senior forward. Just on experience alone I think we win where Duke is strongest.

 

[Rhavic]

I would love to see them have to play the bemax team we played. Just to get a fair measuring stick.

If their bench played like they did tonight, they would lose. That's just the truth of the matter. No excuse for the Duke bench to look so bad against such low quality competition.

 

[Bkocats]

score?
I'm not watching

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Is Jones really out until January?

That sucks if true. I want to see Duke at full capacity in November as a preview for March/April.

Those of you downplaying their ability to the win the title sound nervous. Duke has 3 of the top 5 picks. If they get a 4th guy to step up on offense, they'll be in the title discussion in the spring.

 

[Montana81]

Zion with a jumper could be the best player in CBB honestly.

And that would also make Barrett that much more dangerous.

They still have question marks though. That front court is cheeks. Just sayin...

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

We just need to press and run burger boy to death. Tanks over the hills. They got no chance against us and I think we could embarrass them.

Why don't they have a chance against us? They've played 3/4ths of their first game where they're missing 40% of their starters.

 

[Calsthebomb]

score?
I'm not watching

87-68 final I think

 

[Bkocats]

87-68 final I think

thank you sir

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Why don't they have a chance against us? They've played 3/4ths of their first game where they're missing 40% of their starters.

probably because during our game..... they'll still be without their PG and to win duke will have to play the big 3 for 40 minutes ..... they'll wear down by the end of the game if we continue to play like we did in the bahamas.

But why are you upset about people picking UK over Duke?

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I still think Duke will be the only other team besides UK that's worth a damn.

Some of our fans can downplay them all they want to, but Duke's big three this year will be as good as any big three we've seen in years.

Our advantages against them will be depth, shooting, and defense. Their strength will be that they have multiple players who can make plays. They're two consistent shooters away from making a deep tournament run. If they find those shooters this year, they'll be dangerous. If not, they might go home in the second weekend. We'll just have to wait and see if they find those two players this year from Zion, Reddish, O'Connell, or Jones. Barrett won't be that guy. It's just not his game.

 

[20102015]

Not even close to the same competition.

Except that 3 players off that team were literally your competition. They played on team Toronto. These games tell us nothing because all the teams are trash, Duke played without two 5 star kids and their best shooter, and uk played without a 5 star kid.
But please stop with the ridiculous strength of competition nonsense. No one will have played anyone until Duke plays uk.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

probably because during our game..... they'll still be without their PG and to win duke will have to play the big 3 for 40 minutes ..... they'll wear down by the end of the game if we continue to play like we did in the bahamas.

But why are you upset about people picking UK over Duke?

So asking a question constitutes being upset?

I'd rather see Duke with all their pieces in November.

I think UK wins in November and probably in the spring if they face each other again, but some of the narratives being spun tonight are shortsighted. Duke is a threat this year. Not like they were in 2015, when they had a complete team with real veterans, but anytime possessing playmaking scorers like Zion, RJ, and Reddish is automatically a threat.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

I still think Duke will be the only other team besides UK that's worth a damn.

Some of our fan can downplay all they want to, but Duke's big three this year will be as good as any big three we've seen in years.

Our advantages against them will be depth, shooting, and defense. Their strength will be that they have multiple players who can make plays. They're two consistent shooters away from making a deep tournament run. If they find those shooters this year, they'll be dangerous. If not, they might go home in the second weekend. We'll just have to wait and see if they find those two players this year from Zion, Reddish, O'Connell, or Jones. Barrett won't be that guy. It's just not his game.

KU will be pretty good too....

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

KU will be pretty good too....

Yeah honestly I'm more worried about KBlew than Dook. Coach rat hasn't shown he can do what Cal does with frosh only.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Except that 3 players off that team were literally your competition. They played on team Toronto. These games tell us nothing because all the teams are trash, Duke played without two 5 start kids and their best shooter, and uk played without a 5 star kid.
But please stop with the ridiculous strength of competition nonsense. No one will have played anyone until Duke plays uk.

The games actually tell us a bit about how these players will prefer to play this season.

I personally hope Zion enjoys being a trigger happy perimeter player, to make Duke as redundant as possible from a strength outlook. If you guys lack point guard and interior player, Duke won't be winning a title in April. It actually becomes a very simple formula.

 

[kyjeff1]

I still think Duke will be the only other team besides UK that's worth a damn.

Some of our fan can downplay all they want to, but Duke's big three this year will be as good as any big three we've seen in years.

Our advantages against them will be depth, shooting, and defense. Their strength will be that they have multiple players who can make plays. They're two consistent shooters away from making a deep tournament run. If they find those shooters this year, they'll be dangerous. If not, they might go home in the second weekend. We'll just have to wait and see if they find those two players this year from Zion, Reddish, O'Connell, or Jones. Barrett won't be that guy. It's just not his game.

You don't think KU and Gonzaga are worth a damn? I thought it was UK and KU, maybe throw Nevada and Gonzaga in there.
I really think Duke is in trouble. They will be weak defensively (coach K + young team = no defense) plus Jones being out until January is really going to throw a stick.into their spokes.
Oh, it also.looks like they won't have their typical 3 point shooting ability either, defenses are going to pack the paint on them, we know how that goes all too well.

 

[20102015]

Barrett is NOT the best player on Duke's team. Might be the 3rd option.

Barrett is far away Dukes best player and you’ll see that throughout the season. Zion is a matchup nightmare and Reddish may be the best “3rd option” in college hoops but Barrett is the most polished and the clear alpha. Remember, Keldon johnson was like 3-15 his first time out and then looked great. You’ll see the same kind of improvement from Barrett except he went for 34 on a night where he didn’t look great

 

[Bogansistheman]

RYERSON

Good to know you'd base your number one pick in the NBA draft on one half of basketball by an 18 year old against RYERSON. If I ever have an NBA team I'll make sure not to hire you.

You guys need to chill. Zion hasn't really faced great competition in organized basketball in his life. I'll bet you right now when he goes up against UK for his first organized basketball game against real talent he won't look half as impressive.

Also Zion has been getting winded but it's easy to hit when there is zero defense. And as far as his defense it hasn't stood out at all so.

Barrett looks way under advertised if we're using this game to crown Zion. Duke needs 2 guys at least the level or more of Davis and MKG to win this title. They don't have that.

Dukes bench is showing why they rarely played too.

And no NBA team would want you evaluating talent if you don’t look at Zion and drool. I don’t care who he’s playing. The things he was doing can not be done by just anyone. He is a physical freak with that size and athleticism. If he shoots well as he did, he will be by far the best player in college basketball and Duke will be in the running for the national title. That being said, hitting shots in one game against poor does not mean he hit jump shots against quality competition. If he does he will have an Anthony Davis like impact but that’s a big if.

 

[20102015]

The games actually tell us a bit about how these players will prefer to play this season.

I personally hope Zion enjoys being a trigger happy perimeter player, to make Duke as redundant as possible from a strength outlook. If you guys lack point guard and interior player, Duke won't be winning a title in April. It actually becomes a very simple formula.

Here’s a simple formula, if a team doesn’t have its starting point guard who is a 5 start talent and that forces its best player to play out of position, don’t use that as an indicator of how that team will play.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

KU will be pretty good too....

Probably true.

That might depend on whether the Lawsons are legit or not. Right now, we simply don't know that to be true, not in regard in terms of how they'll play against the highest level of competition.

Grimes is legit (my favorite non-UK player besides Barrett) and Azubuike is solid. Self isn't used to this many key pieces being brand new to the team, however. It will be interesting to see how he meshes them, particularly with a brand new backcourt.

 

[MrsTylerUlis]

Except that 3 players off that team were literally your competition. They played on team Toronto. These games tell us nothing because all the teams are trash, Duke played without two 5 start kids and their best shooter, and uk played without a 5 star kid.
But please stop with the ridiculous strength of competition nonsense. No one will have played anyone until Duke plays uk.

I’m more talking about the real professional teams UK played last week... Not some Canadian college team. Team Toronto (who we beat by 33 in our 4th game in less than a week) was also assembled of better players than just the three guys from Ryerson. So yes, our strength of competition so far has been better. And I really don’t think that can be argued..