Golden and Lloyd need a little more seasoning still. I like both but neither is ready for this job yet.
Drew to UK?
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Drew would not be my first choice but he would be a very good hire.
I think they throw 2 Hail Marys out to Hurley and donavon, maybe even Steven’s, then end up on Drew
Baylor was on probation as close to the death penalty as you can get for the first 5 years. Read up on it and then look at his last 5 years.
I love Pearls energy and passion but if you really look deep into his coaching record and finishes I'm not so sure you would be impressed.
He does have the energy for the UK fan base though.
Yes and how many coaches have won multiple titles? And then how many have done it at two diff schools?
Hurley could be gettable IF they go down tonight.
If Bulls are in a shot for the playoffs, the little chance Donovan would come will be gone.
It’s been 24 hours and everybody outside of Hurley likely has been back channeled contacted. It appears: Wright, Donovan, Oates all said no. So if not Drew then who? I can understand someone arguing for Pearl but I’d rather have Drew than Pearl. You make Hurley an offer get told no then swivel to Drew.
Most coaches that win a national title stay where they are because its home and they are safe. Drew can leave for a much better gig.
And at UK our coaches all suck at winning multiple titles post Rupp so if Drew wins 1 in 6 to 8 years seems about par for course here.
Can't control if Donovan or Hurley don't want to come.
To me this hire must have a safe element to it. Meaning we can’t and are not in a position to risk it. Needs to be clean, accomplished, and guaranteed to stabilize the program. Had Cal retired after winning 3 titles I would think differently. You’d have room to risk it. We must have stability so we don’t run into a problem of going 10 years (5 with Cals last 5) in the wrong direction . I know he’s not flashy guys but Scott Drew has done amazing things at Baylor. And we know he will at least stabilize the program and probably get us to final fours. I think Drew might end up the best hire we could have outside of guys like Hurley who aren’t coming. I don’t see why so many don’t like it. Must remember, what he’s done at Baylor is impossible. Multiple that by UK.
Yeah he would thrive here in my opinion but he's not going to even get a look. Fun style, charisma and knows the passion of BBN....everything u are looking for but no call will happen.
He hasn’t. But on the slim chance he has, Mitch needs to be shown the door and the contract offer withdrawn.
Yeah but my point is the expectations upon him would be to do something that as a D1 mens BB coach has technically never historically been done. Maybe he can. Who knows. Im doubtful. I’d rather have someone hungry for their first.
I wouldn’t worry about aau connections in today’s environment where high school players have limited impact on winning. Nil might be relevant.
That's inaccurate. Baylor is far from a cesspool. They are in a talent rich state and very capable.
Good coach we've hired.... I'm not sure how good he really is..
It's not that I don't like it, I just think he's suited for Baylor. He built it...UK is a different animal and one that would eat him alive. He's not built for this job. I could be wrong but I don't think I am.
However IF that's who we go with, I'll support him and hope for the best.
It's never been attempted other than Pitino did do it. He just cheated to do it.
I looked back to 1990. No coach that won a title left that job to go to a better job. Pitino went to a worse job and won one but cheated.
We were going to be an NIT team with cal next year so what’s the difference?
Drew should be our fallback option. He's the safe pick we can probably get after we swing for the fences. He's definitely not a homerun hire, but he's not a BAD pick. Definitely concerning that he has 3 straight first weekend exits as a 1 seed, 3 seed, 3 seed.
True but i think people were expecting an upgrade and not more of the same ****.
It’s been “attempted” by every coach that ever took another D1 job. They just didn’t make it far enough.
Agree on Pitino.
Just saying, probability says no. Would love to be wrong.
If its Drew, I guarantee you we will be in the NCAAT next year. He'll keep enough players , get enough transfer portal guys and bring some of his recruits like Edgecomb ... we'll be good next year with Drew.
What does this job require? This job doesnt need to be a PR stunt all the time like you got with Cal or Rick... it just doesnt. The UK coach doesnt need to be our fans personal reality TV show . If he does well and wins , gets us to a final four within 4-5 years then its good. You have to remember, there was 3% of the fan base being idiots wanting Cal gone in 2016... there are loons in every fan base, its just our fan base is just larger therefore more loons.
Of course not........ Just from the simple fact every coach out there will be a traditional coach and not the all out one and done meaning we wont have scholarships to be recruiting 5-7 players a year.
If he wins a title.. he could do the same here for all I care..
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This is my reluctance with Drew. As far as coaching is concerned he is a massive upgrade over cal which in of itself is not a compliment as cal is just horrible at coaching. But I fear the grind of being KY coach could easily chew him up and spit him out. Uk coach has to have an edge to them he just doesn’t possess or at least on the surface doesn’t appear he has.
One thing positive of Drew.. his title team at Baylor was a force, and it's not like those guys are some studs at the next level. They eviscerated teams. I don't think the whole "it was the covid title" matters. They had to deal with the same thing as every other team did.
Scott Drew will certainly be an upgrade over Cal. The hit will be to recruiting, but Baylor has still proven to grab guys.
The problem is, I'm not sure Scott Drew is realistically going to deliver final 4s at a level we expect. He's probably more of Sweet16/Elite8 kind of guy. A final4 here, maybe.. and few opening weekend losses there. Not sure that will be enough.
Scott Drew will certainly be an upgrade over Cal. The hit will be to recruiting, but Baylor has still proven to grab guys.
The problem is, I'm not sure Scott Drew is realistically going to deliver final 4s at a level we expect. He's probably more of Sweet16/Elite8 kind of guy. A final4 here, maybe.. and few opening weekend losses there. Not sure that will be enough.
If I had to bet, MB reached out to him right after Cal reached out to Ohio St in Feb.
Idk how many coaches have taken another D1 job after winning their national title the past 30 years. They certainly didn't go to a school like UK on the few that did.
We will see. Not even a guarantee he's our coach.
| 2008–09 | Baylor | 24–15 | 5–11 | 9th | NIT Runner-Up |
| 2009–10 | Baylor | 28–8 | 11–5 | T–2nd | NCAA Division I Elite Eight |
| 2010–11 | Baylor | 18–13 | 7–9 | T–7th | |
| 2011–12 | Baylor | 30–8 | 12–6 | T–3rd | NCAA Division I Elite Eight |
| 2012–13 | Baylor | 23–14 | 9–9 | T–4th | NIT Champion |
| 2013–14 | Baylor | 26–12 | 9–9 | T–6th | NCAA Division I Sweet 16 |
| 2014–15 | Baylor | 24–10 | 11–7 | T–4th | NCAA Division I Round of 64 |
| 2015–16 | Baylor | 22–12 | 10–8 | T–5th | NCAA Division I Round of 64 |
| 2016–17 | Baylor | 27–8 | 12–6 | T–2nd | NCAA Division I Sweet 16 |
| 2017–18 | Baylor | 19–15 | 8–10 | T–6th | NIT Second Round |
| 2018–19 | Baylor | 20–14 | 10–8 | 4th | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
| 2019–20 | Baylor | 26–4 | 15–3 | 2nd | Postseason cancelled due to COVID-19 |
| 2020–21 | Baylor | 28–2 | 13–1 | 1st | NCAA Division I Champion |
| 2021–22 | Baylor | 27–7 | 14–4 | T–1st | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
| 2022–23 | Baylor | 23–11 | 11–7 | T–3rd | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
| 2023–24 | Baylor | 24–11 | 11–7 | T–3rd | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
So two seasons with being a one seed. Probably would've been three if 2020 happens.
Last three seasons knocked out of the second round as 1, 3, and 3 against an 8, 6 and 6.
In 2015, 2016, and 2017, he lost to a 14, 12, and 7 seed.
Kudos for bringing Baylor from the ashes but this isn't a guy who is going to excite anyone.
How is he not an upgrade? He has a 76.6 win percentage these past 4 years where Cal had only a 63% win percentage. Drew has 9 NCAAT wins in that span to Cal's 1.
if you are looking for someone who has the success of Cal his first 8 years here, there is no one with that success who would take the job, if you have that success where you are at, there is no reason to leave that place.
“They call me mellow yellow”
Haven’t heard much of him in years
Didn’t know he coached
You know Drew has a 54% win at Baylor, right? That’s an upgrade?
Oh I agree about the PR stunt part but he doesn't strike me as being that type of coach anyway. It's the pressure he will get and it doesn't have to be pressure coming from BBN either. He's well aware of what expectations are here...any coach would be aware. I guess we shall see but I'm not knocking him at all, I just have doubts if he is up to the task to fully embrace being the head coach at Kentucky.
11+losses in 4 of his last 7 seasons.That one great run for a championship but NOTHING since.