Doug Munsen just offered McDowell (OL)

[aTotal360]

Keep in mind he's arguably the best OL left on our board. Also, he's from south GA and Gainesville is only 3 hrs away.

#17nhevesy

 

[AlCoDog]

I saw that. I’m going to have to quit following Steve on Twitter because his tweets are the only time i have to see Dan or Hevesey’s face.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

Keep in mind he's arguably the best OL left on our board. Also, he's from south GA and Gainesville is only 3 hrs away.

#17nhevesy

Unless we hit some sort of junior college motherload, we're going to be in a world of hurt on the OL in a couple of years. May even effect depth next year. For someone who knows offense, Mullen sure did ignore recruiting at some very important offensive positions.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

What Saban did at LSU was sign DL and turn them into OL.... This may have to be our strategy as MS really doesn't have the High School coaching to produce enough OL for even 1 SEC program....

 

[maroonmania]

We can only hope that Hevesy will be sent in to close the deal.***

 

[johnson86-1]

Unless we hit some sort of junior college motherload, we're going to be in a world of hurt on the OL in a couple of years. May even effect depth next year. For someone who knows offense, Mullen sure did ignore recruiting at some very important offensive positions.

We are playing with fire, but our saving grace is that we will have two RS Sophomores starting on the OL next year. If Suggs pans out and Dolla Bill pans out by the time he is a RS FR, we have four of our OL spots filled for the next three years. Next year is do or die probably as far as signing multiple high school OL, and a couple of them are going to have to be ready to be solid starters at least by the time they're RS So.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

Don't worry. Mullen and Hevesy both made the visit.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

Did he go to camp? How did he get an offer if he didn't go to camp. This is ridiculous

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

We’re going to have to sign at least 6 HS OL next year, in addition to resigning the 1-2 JUCO’s that we sign and placed last year. Hevesy royally 17ed us on his way out the door with OL crootin, and the new staff is struggling to get others in now. Possibly only signing 2 qualifying OLs in the last two classes is horrible.

 

[5049]

We’re going to have to sign at least 6 HS OL next year, in addition to resigning the 1-2 JUCO’s that we sign and placed last year. Hevesy royally 17ed us on his way out the door with OL crootin, and the new staff is struggling to get others in now. Possibly only signing 2 qualifying OLs in the last two classes is horrible.

It is an impending disaster that no one seems to want to accept, discuss or remedy.

 

[johnson86-1]

It is an impending disaster that no one seems to want to accept, discuss or remedy.

2018 Line:
Greg Eiland (So)
Darryl Williams (JR)
Elton Jenkins (SR)
Deion Calhoun (SR)
Stewart Reese (So)

Backups: Suggs, D. parker, T. Champion, T. Phillips, Dollar Bill

2019 Line:
Greg Eiland (JR)
D. Parker? (Jr)
Darryl Williams (SR)
Suggs? (So)
Stewart Reese (JR)

Backups: T. Champion, T. Phillips, Dollar Bill, 2019 Class (True Freshmen), 2019 Class JUCO


2020 Line:
Greg Eiland (SR)
Dolla Bill (RS Fr)
D. Parker? (SR)
Suggs? (JR)
Stewart Reese (SR)

Backups: 2019 Class (RS Fr), 2020 Class (tr Fr), 2019 JUCO CLass (SR or RS Jr) and 2020 JUCO

Again, as of right now, it's playing with fire and not a disaster...yet. Have to kill it in 2019 and 2020 and any attrition or misses between Suggs and Dollar Bill (who are probably the two most important players we have as far as not being able to afford them being busts or injured) and we better hope we did well in JUCO in 2019 and 2020.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

Yep, it hasn’t reached disaster level yet- but if it isn’t addressed in recruiting by February 2019, it most certainly will be.

Who knows, we may finish with Winkel and McDowell, then sign 5-6 quality guys next year and not miss a beat. We’ll just need to see how it plays out. Moorhead and Johnson have some work to do on that front for sure though.

 

[philduckworth]

It is an impending disaster that no one seems to want to accept, discuss or remedy.

The most pressing issue is we have no Center in 2019. Right now the best bet would be D. Parker or maybe M. Story. So that's a problem. And depth is going to be an issue as well. Not just the 2 deep, but having a good scout team O-line.

Then in 2020 and 21 we could have some serious problems. We have to hit a homerun in 2019 recruiting. I wonder if a Power 5 school has only signed 2 HS O-linemen in 2 years...ever. Hopefully, we at least sign Winkel.

 

[5049]

Have to kill it in 2019 and 2020 and any attrition or misses between Suggs and Dollar Bill (who are probably the two most important players we have as far as not being able to afford them being busts or injured) and we better hope we did well in JUCO in 2019 and 2020.

You do not consider this a disaster? Especially considering this is the exact same type of disaster that led to 2001-2006? What confidence do you have that these guys are different from any other recruit, and what confidence do you have that Mississippi State will "kill it" in football recruiting?

Dan Mullen needs to have his neck rung, but at minimum, he probably would have signed Johnson, McDowell and a couple more. You certainly cannot blame it on Moorhead. It is just a bad situation but needs to be fixed now. We have to sign another guy this year, then sign 4 high school guys next year and 2 JUCOs minimum, and redshirt them both.

 

[johnson86-1]

You do not consider this a disaster? Especially considering this is the exact same type of disaster that led to 2001-2006? What confidence do you have that these guys are different from any other recruit, and what confidence do you have that Mississippi State will "kill it" in football recruiting?

Dan Mullen needs to have his neck rung, but at minimum, he probably would have signed Johnson, McDowell and a couple more. You certainly cannot blame it on Moorhead. It is just a bad situation but needs to be fixed now. We have to sign another guy this year, then sign 4 high school guys next year and 2 JUCOs minimum, and redshirt them both.

This is the same type of "disaster" that led to 2011 and 2012. It's almost identical now that I think about it. Crooms had signed a couple of classes that were light on numbers but at least provided a couple of really good anchors. Mullen came in and basically needed to hit on OL in his first class, and they needed to be ready to play as RS Freshmen. IF Mullen had signed two guys in Feb. 2010 who were ready top play as RS FR in 2011, how different would his trajectory at State have looked? He might would have been gone after three years instead of nine.

And "kill it" was probably an exaggeration on my part. If he signs two guys next year that are ready to play as RS FR in 2020, we should be able to add depth through JUCO and be fine. Is signing two OL that are ready to play as RS FR killing it? It's definitely not easy to do, but we did it two years ago, so maybe it's notn "killing it".

I would say we have reached a critical point and OL recruiting for 2019 and 2020 is a lights and sirens emergency, but it's not a disaster yet. If we don't do well with next year's OL recruiting though, we will be dependent on signing ready to play JUCO or true freshmen for 2020, and that will likely be a disaster.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

If we would not have Hevesy'd Cole Smith, we would have been fine... I figure on signing day we sign Winkel, Eddie Smith, Brule, Starkville OL and either Furdge or Patterson...which Brule is a lot better prospect than Mason is...

 

[5049]

If we would not have Hevesy'd Cole Smith, we would have been fine... I figure on signing day we sign Winkel, Eddie Smith, Brule, Starkville OL and either Furdge or Patterson...which Brule is a lot better prospect than Mason is...

If we sign Winkel and one more we will be fine. I am not hopeful on Winkel.

 

[maroonmania]

We’re going to have to sign at least 6 HS OL next year, in addition to resigning the 1-2 JUCO’s that we sign and placed last year. Hevesy royally 17ed us on his way out the door with OL crootin, and the new staff is struggling to get others in now. Possibly only signing 2 qualifying OLs in the last two classes is horrible.

Well, with McDowell he is still 17ing us. 15 million people in Florida but the only prospects Mullen and staff know how to go after are those they were on while at MSU. Just lazy, lazy, lazy classless recruiters.

 

[maroonmania]

If we sign Winkel and one more we will be fine. I am not hopeful on Winkel.

If Winkel is interested in playing time down the road we should be a slam dunk for him.

 

[5049]

If Winkel is interested in playing time we should be a slam dunk for him.

As a third year player in 2020, yes, he will likely be given the job. Our lines are pretty set for 2018 and 2019 though.

 

[ezsoil]

As a third year player in 2020, yes, he will likely be given the job. Our lines are pretty set for 2018 and 2019 though.

Barring Injury

 

[maroonmania]

As a third year player in 2020, yes, he will likely be given the job. Our lines are pretty set for 2018 and 2019 though.

Hopefully most true FR OL are not expecting to play much unless they are a 5 star prospect.

 

[5049]

Hopefully most true FR OL are not expecting to play much unless they are a 5 star prospect.

I see you edited and added "down the road". To that, we agree. When most recruits talk about PT, they are usually talking immediate. Most can't think past tomorrow.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

We need to offer every 17’er Florida is recruiting RIGHT NOW! This is getting beyond ridiculous. If Stricklin gave one flying 17 about his alma mater he would ask Foley to suggest to OBC that he tells Don Muffins to knock it the 17 off with this **** and focus on the state of Florida. I guess it’s going to take a committee of Athletics Department staffers to keep Joey Freshwater from absolutely waxing Dale’s *** in recruiting.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Keep in mind he's arguably the best OL left on our board. Also, he's from south GA and Gainesville is only 3 hrs away.

#17nhevesy

IF this one goes to Florida, I will have lost all goodwill I have left for the Hunchback. He has the entire state of Florida to recruit but he poaches our commits. I know they had relationships but I call ******** on that excuse. It's just the same lazy *** recruiting we had to endure for years here.

I hope we drop 60 on his *** next year.

 

[maroonmania]

I see you edited and added "down the road". To that, we agree. When most recruits talk about PT, they are usually talking immediate. Most can't think past tomorrow.

Should have been understood to be the obvious intent from the start. We ALL know we are loaded with returners pretty much everywhere in 2018 except for WR. In 2019 our depth chart is going to clear out all over the place. OL is the one spot that I don't believe HS players are thinking they are coming in and playing right off the bat unless they are a 5 star, at least not in the SEC. I mean jeez, he will have probably one other HS OL sign with him this year plus we only got one HS OL in school last year. If that's not opportunity for future playing time I don't know what is.

 

[HumpDawgy]

We need to recruit 5 "big uns" each and every year whether they play offense or defense. If you don't, then buy some good life insurance for your QB and be ready to give up 300 rushing yards each game.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

2 of the Top Ten OL this year are in Florida and are not committed..... one may actually go to Ole Miss other looks like a BAMA / Ohio state battle ... doesn't appear Mullenz is in on either

 

[maroonmania]

2 of the Top Ten OL this year are in Florida and are not committed..... one may actually go to Ole Miss other looks like a BAMA / Ohio state battle ... doesn't appear Mullenz is in on either

Hevesy didn't see them at camp so not interested.***