I though he was fouled on one of his dunk attempts. He looks the part and I keep waiting for him to break out but he doesn't see to understand positioning and does not seem to have a single offensive move. Reiber would have had trouble defending too but I think he would box out better and maybe score a little more too.
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In a normal game though we don't have 10-12 minutes to give. Unless we are talking more along the lines of a backup PF who can play some 5 in a pinch. But again, could that not be Reiber? How bout Lobach?(I really don't even know this guys status)
I just don't think Duke was in the way of anything. He's a standard third string center. We were just in an odd situation where our top 2 C's were out.
Agree with you on last point, and yea I think I'm thinking more of a 4 that can play the 5.
Lobach to my knowledge is just a walk on, we will never see him. And yea I hope by next season Reiber is ready to give some good minutes. It was a bad situation that put the microscope on Duke. That being said its a bit concerning after 3 years how lost he looked.
Luke Nathan?
Only his 2nd year but Nick Brooks?
Not that I'm looking to poop on these guys, just pointing to the fact that Duke is being crucified here because is the best of the deep bench guys.
Luke Nathan Daniel Lobach and Nick Brooks do not take up scholarships. They are paying to be at rutgers, its a huge difference.
Edit: I'll leave it so as not to hide my ignorance, but given the above this post carries less weight then I originally thought.
I'm not sure who is on Scholarship here, and aside from the contributors who are injured, but guys on the roster who did not play, or played very sparingly yesterday.
Nathan
Palms
Reiber
Terry
Lobach
Brooks
Just backing up the points I'm making above that:
1)Duke is like any end of the bench guy who, if put into a game vs a ranked opponent, will not look the part.
2)Cutting a seniors scholly to make room for a different 3rd string center who could come in a produce would not even be necessary if such a guy were available, there could be room with or without Duke on the roster.
I'm not sure who is on Scholarship here, and aside from the contributors who are injured, but guys on the roster who did not play, or played very sparingly yesterday.
Nathan
Palms
Reiber
Terry
Lobach
Brooks
Just backing up the points I'm making above that:
1)Duke is like any end of the bench guy who, if put into a game vs a ranked opponent, will not look the part.
2)Cutting a seniors scholly to make room for a different 3rd string center who could come in a produce would not even be necessary if such a guy were available, there could be room with or without Duke on the roster.
10 minutes is 18 possessions which is a lot better than 21 minutes and 38 possessions.
Expectations are too high in this thread. The guy wasn't in the rotation last year, isn't in the rotation this year as a somewhat raw freshman immediately jumped in front of him. He's not a rotational player and given that fact, the only thing that disappointed me was his lack of aggression on the glass. His offense isn't really a thing, he didn't turn the ball over and his defense was somewhat adequate when he wasn't in foul trouble.
Baker a freshman from Texas is a four star buried on the bench and just entered the portal. Atkinson a Yale postgrad is also available and wants to go to NCAA. His chances of going are a lot better with Steve Pikiell and this ascending program than with Mike Brey and their desending program. Also there is a grade eligible forward from Europe in a Juco program that several of our staff have followed since the summer. I know we have been in contact. All three are over 6’10” and are 4/5. PS Duocoure has been in a part time back brace for at least two years. He is physically limited and he is scheduled to graduate this June. He was a four star that got thrown to the wolves by Eddie and never recovered. He needed a red shirt year just like Reiber does. After an offseason in the weight room Reiber will be a different player next year. If he is not, he won’t leave the bench and will transfer. Kid can shoot but does not have the physical attributes to contribute as yet.
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I don't like seeing some of our fans taking pot shots at any of our players. I think it is wrong. We only had 12 scholarship players anyway. One was never used unless Brooks as someone said received one this year. I think Joey Downes received one last year as a senior. We do have Luke Nathan another walk on. He does get a significant number of rebounds for the minutes he is usually on the court. I was hoping to see him and Reiber each getting a few of the minutes at center in a pinch.
Doucore was giving us solid minutes until Bobo started with the phantom calls. We were up 16 and he was a part of that.
Doucoure has been here a while. He should know the defensive rotations, be able to box out and rebound. That's all we need him to do. He struggled with these things. He's big and strong and should be able to rebound well. I don't know if it's lack of confidence and gets flustered or he just never really developed.
Doucoure is clearly not good. People who think he played well are just showing they don't know what they are watching. Its pretty obvious. He has no court awareness or feel for the game at allllll. He just looks lost at all times. Duke has been here for years now and has starting experience so he's not some freshman still developing.
21 minutes - 2 rebounds. 1 defensive rebound.
That is really bad especially when it is the one thing he really needed to do for us. Just rebound. On defense he got mostly abused even though he seemingly would be a good matchup for the OSU bigs in terms of size and strength
We were winning the game early in spite of him not bc he was contributing. It was bc Harper Young etc were all playing very well and hitting 3's
In his defense he had a nice dunk and a couple ok plays but hes on the court for 21 minutes so he should occasionally do something. He got some horrible calls too. I think it was his 3rd where the guy drives from the perimeter and there is zero contact just a complete fabricated call
21 minutes - 2 rebounds. 1 defensive rebound.
That is really bad especially when it is the one thing he really needed to do for us. Just rebound. On defense he got mostly abused even though he seemingly would be a good matchup for the OSU bigs in terms of size and strength
We were winning the game early in spite of him not bc he was contributing. It was bc Harper Young etc were all playing very well and hitting 3's
In his defense he had a nice dunk and a couple ok plays but hes on the court for 21 minutes so he should occasionally do something. He got some horrible calls too. I think it was his 3rd where the guy drives from the perimeter and there is zero contact just a complete fabricated call
Disagree, it wasn’t until his 4th foul that he wasn’t doing the job asked and expected of him
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You’re 100% right Zap. He’s our 3rd big. He was doing his job until he got hosed along with MJ. I guess we can say Myles sucks too? Lmao at some people.
21 minutes. 1 defensive rebound.
That is not doing your job.
Do I think another 3rd string center who is an upperclassmen and started for a year could do better? Yes.
Nope, I liked his help D and his boxing out so another RU player could get the rebound.
I think you’re incorrect, and with a properly called game and Myles able to perform, Duke would have made a very worthwhile contribution to a win.
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He got that 4th star based on potential alone. In reality, he probably should’t have even been a 3 star.
You are missing the point of the other side of the argument entirely.
Also Myles had all of 2 rebs in 15 minutes as well.
Bingo. Whatever he played tonight was the right number. Trevion couldn’t play 40 so Duke was spared by seeing the freshman cneter
Even if he’s not great he’s a 6-11 body to take some fouls and play D. Did his job 2nite.