Yeah sure that's why they told the FISA Judge they needed a warrant in addition to the human intelligence they already had planted inside the campaign right? Trump was kept informed every step of the way right OM1?
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Yeah sure that's why they told the FISA Judge they needed a warrant in addition to the human intelligence they already had planted inside the campaign right? Trump was kept informed every step of the way right OM1?
I don't know and neither do you. Gowdey said the investigation was legit. Andrew Napolitano says the investigation is legit. No evidence has emerged that the informant was used to spy on the campaign for political purposes. Napolitano said Tuesday that the use of an informant is “standard operating procedure” in intelligence gathering and during criminal investigations.
spygate is a complete fabrication
Fine...have it your way on the Left. We weren't told about this surveillance until it was uncovered by investigative reporters trying to get to the bottom of this swamp of deceit and neither was Trump.
But it's all good, at least now Republicans know that Democrats are okay with spying on their political operations for the next election cycle and you guys will have no complaints once we put our intelligence operatives in place to let us know what you guys are up to. It's all cool and you all agree it's just about keeping everyone informed.
Just imagine what we're going to find out?
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Lol, of course, cause Trump is the only honest man in your world, EVERYBODY else is lying except him. And a draft dodging ***** grabbing *** hat who was born on third base thinking he hit a triple is more honorable than Muellers or McCains resume to his fan boys. I assume you no longer believe anything Trey has to say either now that cadet bone spurs got no cover from him.
Trump is smarter than you. Trey Gowdy needs to go review the testimony before his own committee. @WVU82 linked to the dissection of Gowdy's misstatement that Trump wasn't being spied on written by Andrew McCarthy.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/trump-campaign-spying-obama-administration-investigation/
If you read it, you might learn something. But you won't because you're a Leftist dumbass.
Read it. Seems like there isn’t much real evidence of anything at this point.
If Gowdy is a liar now, then Nunes is too?
If you read it he shreds Gowdy's argument that Trump wasn't being spied on and you're just in denial.
Denial about what? That our FBI and DOJ and CIA were concerned about a foreign state infiltrating our free election?
Gowdy seems to confirm the fact that this was not a “spy on the Trump campaign for Democrat” operation, due to the information he has seen.
What information has McCarthy seen again?
And again, the ONLY hard “evidence” you and others on this board have thrown at me is the Nunes Memo and the Grassley memo (with the constant “wait for the IG report” backer).....and now you want me to believe that the person who read the FISA application and dictated? the Nunes memo is a liar?
So Nunes had his staffers write a memo off of Gowdy’s opinion of the FISA docs.....and I’m supposed to believe the memo, but also believe the Gowdy is a liar now?
Spying on opponents is fine unless you break into their office to develop information.
Maybe you weren’t one of them, but a while back— conservative board members were blasting Obama for not doing enough to stop Russia.
You don’t know what information they had to prompt the operations, you don’t know what information they got, you don’t know what information (if any) they shared with the DNC or the Clinton campaign. Yet here we have a GOP lawmaker (privy to inside information) literally saying the DOJ did the right thing based on the information he’s seen.....but you’re convinced it was all about spying.
I’m waiting for evidence of this abuse of powers, Obama’s led, deepstate, spying operation that was unprompted and out of control. This anti-Gowdy campaign the right is rolling out so quickly does one thing for sure—- it destroys the Nunes memo.
Yet it was only a couple of weeks ago that the left was crucifying Gowdy for joining Nunes in releasing their investigation report. Guess we will have to wait until the investigations are over before we know who to believe. But until that day comes I will continue to support our president Trump..
Boomer when have you ever not believed whatever you want to believe?
Andrew McCarthy lays out the contradictions of Gowdy's statement based on the testimony he heard in his own committee & for you not to see that means exactly what I said you are simply in denial.
Yep. I think the Nunes memo was anpolitical farce .... when Wray says that it omits facts that challenge its claims.... yes! I think Gowdy and Nunes were playing a political game, and it just made the waters murkier.
That’s why my title on this thread was EVEN Gowdy.....showing that he wasn’t a guy the left has in their deep pocket
So what is the definition of spying on Trump, in your opinion?
Is it the same as the DOJ seeking to find out if there are contacts with the Russian state in the Trump campaign?
Why is Gowdy’s take on the actual evidence sound when the Nunes memo was released, but now it’s not when he says something that counters the narrative that makes you giddy like a little school girl?
I’m simply calling Bullsh1t on all of it. I want evidence. If your spy - watergate narrative is true, it will be easy to prove. Then the GOP in Congress should prove it. If they too are too deepstate to do so.....Trump should. Otherwise what the **** are we talking about for a year?
The DOJ masked the cost to a table in McCabe's office. Don't think their crap don't stink, even now.
The Clintons...NEVER REFUNDED RAPESTEINS MILLONS...NOT ONE RED CENT!!!! #CLINTONCORRUPTIONCABALCONTINUESOK...that's your explanation for the media reminding the audience of Roseanne's support for Trump and saying nothing about Weinstein's support for all Democrats, not just Hillary?
Democrats in Office today accept money from Weinstein and his Hollywood crowd that looked the other way while he was allegedly abusing Women and very few of them today condemn him or refuse his money. The media doesn't even think it's necessary to remind anyone of his staunch support for Democrats and apparently you don't think that matters much either?
But Barr and Trump and by extrapolation all Republicans are racists.
However only Weinstein may or may not be a rapist. The rest of the Democrat party is pure and clean and innocent and perfect. They don't even lie to FISA court Judges.kay:
China"recruited" Rapey Bill with MILLONS of cash for his campaign!! Got caught and had to give it back!! Thus the birth of the "Clinton Foundation!! Yeah,no big deal..
You know like.... When the FBI wanted to see the DNC server but the "powers that be" said " thanks, but no thanks"...AND they had the FBI ON THEIR SIDE!!
Lenny if Republicans did the things to Hillary that were done to Trump they would not only be calling for his impeachment but his castration. Only problem with Hillary is her balls have already been removed by Trump.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
It has to be a Pavlovian response at this point, doesn’t it? I mean...I don’t even think they are aware that they are even doing it. Surely they are not aware.
Isn't it interesting how you guys on the Left are so smart and have everyone else so figured out yet you can't figure out a way to win back your lost power and influence?
What happened, too smart for everyone else? So how's it feel to be so smart yet constantly rejected? Look at the State Houses, look at the Governorships, look at the National races for Congress, last race for President, you guys lost to a Political rookie! A reality TV star! You in fact lose just about every race you go into? How can people so smart be such expert losers?
You guys are so smart you have everything so figured out yet all you do is go out and lose. Let's hear your brilliant explanation for why you guys are such consistent losers?
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Good question. It’s mainly because there are more people of moderate and below average intelligence than there are smart people like us on the left. And unfortunately, a vote from someone of a low intellect such as yourself counts just the same as someone like mine. It’s frustrating for sure. Like watching your dog eat it’s own ****.
I think a good solution would be to have our votes weighted by IQ. That would solve a lot of problems to be honest. Maybe not even allow a person of your intellectual level vote at all. It seems drastic, I know...but we really should start thinking of ways to ensure our society and civilization progresses.
But I do think the pendulum will swing back politically. It always does. But one thing you can’t deny is that the right has lost the culture war. The left took out your crowning jewel in Roseanne in a matter of hours and the right can’t get a D list celebrity with a weekly half hour show on TBS ousted for calling the First Lady a See You Next Tuesday. Ouch.
Good discussion though. If you need me to explain anything to you...feel free to ask. I know it must be hard for people like you.
Yes since I'm so stupid can you explain one thing to me that has perplexed me since I started really making money? If it's my money, and I I'm smart enough to earn it...how come the more of it I make the less of it I get to keep?
While you're detailing that bit of economic wisdom to me can you also please inform me how much based on your superior intellect and obviously well established earning credentials far elevated above my meager six figure allowance... what extra of your "voluntary" contributions do you send in as your own personal "fair share" to fund your Socialist utopia or do you just complain about someone stupid such as myself who maybe earns a little more but doesn't quite "volunteer" enough according to your Leftist ideas or perhaps doesn't send in as much extra as you willingly do?
I'm really dumb...I'd like to learn how to send in less of my hard earned money like you smart Leftists do. Can you help a Brother out?
And tell me Sir Isaac Newton...who gets to decide just who the smart people are that can vote under your proposal? Anyway, if the less intelligent people are now winning most of the elections, what's to stop them from taking your idea and making sure you smart *** Leftists can't vote? By your own admission, there are more than enough of us plebes to cancel out your intelligent ballots...so why can't we just make sure you smart asses don't count?
You're already losing and can't win local Dog catcher races, do we really need your well informed loser vote?
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Wait...didn’t you just get done bragging to me about how the right controls all the branches of government? And now you’re complaining about your tax burden? This is exactly what I mean. I just sit here and you just keep eating your own **** like a dog.
OK...OK...so you're the smart guy right...the brightest bulb in the room...a veritable Einstein am I right?
So...you vote Democrat and all they do is lose?
That's real smart Bro.
No no My Man...I wanted you to explain to me how you avoid sending in extra while voting for politicians who feed your ignorant ego complaining about others who don't send in enough? Real smart Capernicus!
Yes...but by your own admission, the dumb voters are winning. Does that mean they're smarter than you?
This is really smart political analysis @CpEER . You've won the culture war by being vulgar to the President's Daughter celebrating a Leftist Female comedian calling another Woman a c*nt? But you're the party that respects Women, and this show of respect for the President's Daughter will certainly win you votes in November among culture minded Feminists thus proving the Left has the superior ideas and attitudes about Women in the culture war? If this is "winning" when does the losing stop?
Your shining example is this guy?
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