Donate what you can now!

[WhiteBus]

Barchi's halfway out the f***ing door. Forget Barchi. Next year is too late to make a difference. Next year, they'll take your donation, put it in their pocket and say thank you. Donating to the program directly now empowers Pat to make a difference now. Right now. When we have a coach to hire and he has to fight for the budget to get a good coach and staff. Look at Ohio State. Look at Penn State. Look at Michigan. Are we going to be competitive spending a quarter of what they do?

We have a chance to let Hobbs know that we, as the alumni base, have his back and support an investment making the football program competitive. That chance is now. It's today. It's not next year after he's already had to hire a new coach. We need to make our voices heard now before he has to justify a budget for the new staff. Wait till next year and you lose your voice. Make a statement now to give Barchi a kick on his way out the door.

Barchi still is in control. Period

 

[ru66]

What are you talking about?

GENIUS if you really think the new president will not demand that the student subsidies be eliminated and sports be "self sufficient " as Barchi and the BOG demand--YOU KNOW NOTHING--maybe that's why you refuse to give--we will be getting an academic president not athletic president

 

[ru66]

just the usual reasons to cheap out--man, so sad a fan

 

[Hardslider33]

Every donor and dollar is like a vote. If our fanbase was worth anything you would see a massive surge in donations and donors. The admin would notice that. What likely will happen is that you'll get maybe 100 folks sending 10 bucks on average which is pathetic and exactly why barchi and the admin do what theyve always done. A vocal fanbase numbering into the 100 of thousands that sends a hundred on average gets listened too.

Case in point the fire flood campaign had about 10k in 2 days with hundreds of donors and was just getting started with the publicity and the administration shut it down. They noticed that.


So i have and will always maintain that all our bitching and moaning should be directed at ourselves.

where was this sediment at the end of last year? All I kept hearing was, I’m not renewing tickets and I’m not donating. Now Ash gets fired? Seriously what has changed between now the end of last season? Yet another bad decision by a BoG that honestly doesn’t give a crap.

 

[Jtung230]

Your are completely missing my point. Save up your money and donate when Barchi is gone. Right now donations do nothing to help athletics. You have to understand how little Barchi cares about Athletics.

Someone approved the firing. It’s time for fans to take action.

 

[WhiteBus]

Someone approved the firing. It’s time for fans to take action.

Were you at the last game? It was obvious to a blind dog that a change had to be made. The place was empty. Rutgers Football is going to lose $millions this year. I'm happy Ash is gone but I don't see donations increasing spending while Barchi is around.

 

[Jtung230]

Were you at the last game? It was obvious to a blind dog that a change had to be made. The place was empty. Rutgers Football is going to lose $millions this year. I'm happy Ash is gone but I don't see donations increasing spending while Barchi is around.

Spending is going up because they fired the HC and OC. I’m not trying to convince you to donate, but I don’t get why you are trying to discourage others from doing so.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Who approved Ash's extension, Towers?

 

[WWHeisenberg]

Who approved Ash's extension, Towers?

And if he did? Who do you think is funding the buyout?

 

[ATIOH]

No every buck does not matter until Barchi is gone. Every dollar simply reduces the subsidy. Start donating after June of 2020 when Barchi is gone.

You don’t understand how this works.

I’m simplifying to keep it short - when someone donates money earmarked for football, it becomes a restricted gift. That money goes in a lockbox. If we got rid of the football program tomorrow, that money would be stuck in an account....untouched forever.

On the flip side, the football program is already profitable for the university. So it’s not the same as donating to an Olympic sport.

Regarding Barchi, it’s a safe assumption the next guy will also pay lip service to the subsidy.

 

[RUTrack94]

Setup a recurring payment for 12 months.

50% B1G
50% Football

In the honor or in memory section I put ‘in Honor of Greg Schiano’

Thanks!

 

[WhiteBus]

On the flip side, the football program is already profitable for the university. So it’s not the same as donating to an Olympic sport.

I guess you haven't been paying attention lately. Rutgers Football lost $8 million last year. Can't even imagine what that number will be this year.

 

[ATIOH]

I guess you haven't been paying attention lately. Rutgers Football lost $8 million last year. Can't even imagine what that number will be this year.

That’s using accounting gimmicks like not allocating any conference distributions or IMG money to football. We got $25 million from the B1G and $6 million in marketing revenue. How much would you say is football related?

The bottom line is the football program hasn’t taken a penny of the student fee subsidy since 2011...profitable.

 

[WhiteBus]

That’s using accounting gimmicks like not allocating any conference distributions or IMG money to football. We got $25 million from the B1G and $6 million in marketing revenue. How much would you say is football related?

The bottom line is the football program hasn’t taken a penny of the student fee subsidy since 2011...profitable.

Gimmicks? This is why you can't figure it out. You have come out with your own accounting and argue against Rutgers real accounting.
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2018/01/rutgers_football_lost_money_in_2016_season_a_look.html

 

[ATIOH]

Gimmicks? This is why you can't figure it out. You have come out with your own accounting and argue against Rutgers real accounting.
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2018/01/rutgers_football_lost_money_in_2016_season_a_look.html

After years of doing this, I always tell myself not to get bogged down replying to your ridiculous posts... but I can’t help myself today.

First of all, your article is from almost two years ago. Covering a season from three years ago.

Second, you may want to actually read the sh*t you link here once in awhile. I’ll help you out by copy/pasting:

• Rutgers has had different Chief Financial Officers for athletics over the last decade – which resulted in different accounting methods
• (The difference) could be at least partly attributed to the university's accounting methods.
• For example, Rutgers listed a large portion of its Big Ten distribution as football revenue in those two years — $2.9 million in FY2015; $4.6 million in FY2016 — but put a zero on that line while listing its $16.1 million Big Ten distribution as athletics-department revenue in FY2017.
• It should also be noted that while the Rutgers athletics department was subsidized with $21.3 million from the university's general budget and with $11.7 million in student fees, none of that $33 million subsidy was earmarked as football revenue.
• Note: Despite giving away 10,000 free tickets to students, the Rutgers football program hasn't received a student-fee subsidy since 2011.
  
• As part of its 11-year, $65 million multirights pact with IMG, Rutgers received $5.7 million in licensing/advertising/sponsorship revenue in FY2017. Approximately $4.7 million of that total was earmarked toward the football program.

Just a heads up on that last bullet - if you had bothered looking at anything more recent, you would have seen Rutgers changed their accounting method again. That $4.7 million to football is now a zero, similar to what they did with B1G distribution.

 

[WhiteBus]

After years of doing this, I always tell myself not to get bogged down replying to your ridiculous posts... but I can’t help myself today.

First of all, your article is from almost two years ago. Covering a season from three years ago.

Second, you may want to actually read the sh*t you link here once in awhile. I’ll help you out by copy/pasting:

• Rutgers has had different Chief Financial Officers for athletics over the last decade – which resulted in different accounting methods
• (The difference) could be at least partly attributed to the university's accounting methods.
• For example, Rutgers listed a large portion of its Big Ten distribution as football revenue in those two years — $2.9 million in FY2015; $4.6 million in FY2016 — but put a zero on that line while listing its $16.1 million Big Ten distribution as athletics-department revenue in FY2017.
• It should also be noted that while the Rutgers athletics department was subsidized with $21.3 million from the university's general budget and with $11.7 million in student fees, none of that $33 million subsidy was earmarked as football revenue.
• Note: Despite giving away 10,000 free tickets to students, the Rutgers football program hasn't received a student-fee subsidy since 2011.
  
• As part of its 11-year, $65 million multirights pact with IMG, Rutgers received $5.7 million in licensing/advertising/sponsorship revenue in FY2017. Approximately $4.7 million of that total was earmarked toward the football program.

Just a heads up on that last bullet - if you had bothered looking at anything more recent, you would have seen Rutgers changed their accounting method again. That $4.7 million to football is now a zero, similar to what they did with B1G distribution.

So they earmark more money from the Big Ten and IMG to make it look like they made money.
Gotcha. Talk about gimmicks.
Let's get back to my original point. Does Rutgers increase their spending on football if donations increase or simply is the money from IMG and the Big Ten adjusted again?

 

[ATIOH]

So they earmark more money from the Big Ten and IMG to make it look like they made money.
Gotcha. Talk about gimmicks.
Let's get back to my original point. Does Rutgers increase their spending on football if donations increase or simply is the money from IMG and the Big Ten adjusted again?

What are you not getting? It’s literally the opposite.

On Rutgers’ books, the football program currently generates $0 from the B1G and $0 from IMG.

It can’t be adjusted lower unless you think we’re paying BTN to broadcast our games and we’re paying SHI to put their name on the Stadium.

Again, the football program has taken zero dollars from the student fee subsidy since 2011, because it’s profitable.



Well, you feelin' satisfied now, @WhiteBus ? 'Cause I can go on bustin' you up all night.

Just say nyet, pay me my money, and I’ll be on my way.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]