Does this make Raiola 1 year contract make more sense?
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I don't think Dylan has ever been a factor in Donovan's career - either being retained by Rhule initially or now being given a contract extension and raise. The recent contract extension was to get him on the same contract timeframe as the other assistant coaches. And the salary increase was a reward for the progress the OL made.
Now of course having Donovan as the OL coach is viewed as a positive by the Raiolas. No question about that. But it obviously wasn't the deciding factor when Dylan committed previously to OSU and later to Georgia.
That was the narrative certainly on this board (that Donavon was retained as carrot for Dylan). It all started with Rhule coming in and the sure bet of who would not be retained was Raiola. The surprise of the transition was keeping him and of course the narrative now moved to it being because of Dylan. That never made sense to me. So what people were saying is Ruhle was willing to sacrifice his entire offense with poor OL coaching just to get a 5* QB and then bring him in to get killed by subpar OL play? Or perhaps some thought that Rhule was buying time with Raiola to help him be a better coach. It would have gone over really well to bring him in and then dump Donovan as the OL coach.
Regardless, here we sit with an OL coach who defied all the naysayers and wooed the HC with not only his relationship with players but his coaching and recruiting. He parlayed that into a nice raise and some security.
There are several things I have learned on this board over the years - The AD never hires the right HC, the HC never hires the right assistants, the wrong play is called and the wrong players are starting.
Regardless, here we sit with an OL coach who defied all the naysayers and wooed the HC with not only his relationship with players but his coaching and recruiting. He parlayed that into a nice raise and some security.
There are several things I have learned on this board over the years - The AD never hires the right HC, the HC never hires the right assistants, the wrong play is called and the wrong players are starting.
I don’t think the OLine was that bad this season. The one dimensional offense due to qb play and injuries at skill positions were.
What is "odd" about it?
In the education world I came from, the state set the max contract at 3 years. At least that is what it was for Superintendents and Principals and other school administrators. The most common length of time was two years. What typically happened as at the end of year one if the board was pleased they would roll another year onto the contract at the conclusion of that year so you were always on a two (or three) year contract. When boards changed and something happened and you didn't get that extension, it was a sign to start looking.
I don't claim to know how assistant's contracts are designed but long term contracts are not something you see for most assistants.
I think youd be naiive to think initially keeping raiola had nothing to do with dylan. But now, it makes sense to keep him even without the dylan news.
OLine did improve. Got good recruiting. And theres no reason to start over again at this point. Momentum is positive there.
OLine did improve. Got good recruiting. And theres no reason to start over again at this point. Momentum is positive there.
Donavon didn't defy ****. Seems like people keep forgetting we had the worst offense in a century this year and not a single unit on that side of the ball performed up to par. I myself don't give a **** about the raise or the extension. That's on Rhule's head, not mine, and it's what a decent OL coach should be making at NU. The expectations will be higher next year and he better have his unit ready to go to start the season. Can't hide behind recruiting and "progress" any longer.
Sorry bud, the line improved all year long. No help from the qb, rbs, or wrs. 8 and 9 man boxes all year. And a terrific recruiting class.
Your trev hate is blinding you.
I think Donny fits the mold Rhule wants in a position coach.- a young, moldable, energetic recruiter. I think he would have been retained either way for stability but knocking it out of the park in recruiting didn't hurt.
Donovan or not, trying to prop up anything to do with our offense is the ultimate lipstick on the pig. Saying it's the qb,rb,recievers fault is pretty out there as opposed to the offensive line.
Maybe the reason so many of our top unit skill guys got injured.
Maybe the reason so many of our top unit skill guys got injured.
Sorry bud, just because they improved doesn’t mean they played well. Lack of scoring and yardage is also on the O-Line. To think other was is naive and plan dumb.
Don has been doing well in recruiting with or without his nephew. Much better than we can say for some other coaches. And his recruiting efforts likely are what did it. Let’s not make this unit seem better than what it is. I know it’s the off-season and you can pump complete ******** because there aren’t games anymore to prove you wrong, but the O-Line was a shitshow again…Just because a girl is no longer the ugliest girl in the women anymore doesn’t exactly make her pretty.
Your Trev love is blinding you.
next year is year 3 for him. No more excuses from you, OK?
How am I blind? I can see the offensive line improved. I can see that he did a good job recruiting. oh, and now he's bringing his nephew.
Why don't you just stop bitching and moaning for once.
And how is it year three? 2024 will be his second season with rhule. Are you one of those dumb asses that says it's year 7 the fans?
how is it year 3? Do you even know who the subject is on? Wow.
If I’m a shareholder and have losses for 7 years, am I supposed to ignore 6 of those year of losses cause it fell under a different CEO? Grow the F-up. Typical off-season BS from a delusional fan.
Going from shitting your pants to farting all the time is improvement, but it all still stinks
Loved the last line, good one… but surely you don’t hold the current CEO responsible for the stuff that happened due to malpractice from previous CEOs, do you? The new CEO is to clean it up and turn it around. The bigger question is what time frame do you give him? It seems as though some have already made up their minds that it needs to happen now, which doesn’t make a ton of sense to me. Has there been improvement? Absolutely. Across the board? Obviously not. But if you think the offense will stay the same way next year, what are you smoking?
If you’re the new CEO, would you want everyone to judge you over the last 7 years, or just the time you’ve been there? Because it sounds kind of silly to be blamed for the time you weren’t there, which is exactly what certain posters are doing.
I don’t know if the raise was worth it or not. And I did think the OL improved. Was it coaching or getting a more cohesive team of bodies?
But, I do get what others are saying. Improvement isn’t saying a whole lot from where it started. Wish the OL played with the same fire the DL did
But, I do get what others are saying. Improvement isn’t saying a whole lot from where it started. Wish the OL played with the same fire the DL did
How do you get teams to not have 8 and 9 man boxes if your qb and wrs can't keep the defenses honest?
I'm excited about pulling some more kids out of Hawaii. This kid and Raiola would certainly help with that.
I’m good with all that. Just trying to be honest on here.
Hope we have some mashers next season
So much talent down there that usually goes to Oregon, Washington, Utah, USC. Tap into that again.
I think you have to separate results from the process.
We had the worst O-line in P5 football in 2022 with the worst set of tackles I have ever seen at that P5 level from a performance perspective. We then paired it with the worst collection of P5 QB's I have seen in my lifetime and to really add salt in would, were below P5 average at RB and played half year with 3 freshman WR and a walkon. The offense basically had to try to run the ball without a credible passing threat from the QB in the big ten and that isn't happening without an elite offensive line. So results were poor but to many, the o-line was much better than 2022. likely going from worst P5 line to bottom quarter range.
Through all this, Rhule got to work with Donavon on a daily basis and knows what he brings to table. We also saw significant improvement from Benhart. You saw Prochazka hold his own as a sophmore once healthy and Jenkins play really well for a freshman. There were also multiple Freshman on two deep that Rhule got to watch develop this year and I assume that went well. Then icing on cake is likely the best Oline class on paper since 2014 paired with four returning starters for 2024. If we get legitimate QB play that forces teams to worry about passing game at all, I think we will see a huge jump in 2024 and would predict middle of pack P5 or better.
Given this, not surprising that Rhule removes the interim tag, aligns his contract with other assistance and pays him fair market forean effective P5 oline coach.
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Yes I remember how bad it was last year. It was even worse at the start of this season. Corcoran at LT is inexcusable and he would have kept playing if he hadn't gotten injured. Raiola got lucky. All of the improvement of the line this year was the result of Corcoran getting injured.