You guys simply cannot refute the facts that for the past 3 seasons the man has underperformed. The facts are there.
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You can’t refute the facts that he’s been wildly successful here and 99 percent of the fan base is happy and laughs at clowns like you.
Yet another bad post. Unacceptable posting. One embarrassing post after another. Definitely should not be allowed to post. Much better posters out there that are consistently better.
He has become more lavar ball at this point than coach. Looks foolish.
Makes the “Kentucky eats first comment” then proceeds to NOT get any top recruit he was offering.
Gets on selection show and complains about bracket being to tough the bracket blows up and proceeds to have his worst game as a coach at UK in letting a mediocre Kansas State team spank us.
Makes “gold standard and we are college basketball comments” then proceeds in 3 years to get beaten by Kansas 3 times, UCLA twice, throttled by Duke and post a sub 500 record against ranked teams in that stretch.
Makes the “Kentucky eats first comment” then proceeds to NOT get any top recruit he was offering.
Gets on selection show and complains about bracket being to tough the bracket blows up and proceeds to have his worst game as a coach at UK in letting a mediocre Kansas State team spank us.
Makes “gold standard and we are college basketball comments” then proceeds in 3 years to get beaten by Kansas 3 times, UCLA twice, throttled by Duke and post a sub 500 record against ranked teams in that stretch.
Alabama is an elite program in every way possible. What did they do in the 25 years between Bryant and Sabin? Nebraska, what has it done since Osborne retired? Indiana, since Knight? USC before and since Pete Carroll? Notre Dame after Holtz? UCLA .......Could list examples all day. Maintaining elite status for programs like that is 100% a function of one thing - hiring the right head coach. It’s not like rolling out of bed easy. Maybe the right guy isn’t out there at the moment you need him. Or maybe he’s there and available, but just doesn’t want the Kentucky job for any of a number of reasons.
Like any fan base that enjoys great success, Kentucky fans have become incredibly entitled and spoiled. Our coach, as I’ve pointed out, has won more games and more tournament games than any other coach in the entire country since he got here. And yet daily some knucklehead, apparently not knowing enough to be embarrassed, will muse about Cal being on the hot seat, or maybe we need Bruce ‘annual flameout’ Pearl, or whatever. We might continue being a superpower forever, without a long stretch in the wilderness like every other elite program. That would be like the same person winning the lottery multiple times......
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Why can you just make a arguement again the facts presented??? Because you can’t so your answer is have me banned?? There is no arguing that this thing has been heading south for 3 years at this point.
If one googles your handle, they'll find you crying and whining about Cal going back at least 2 years. Cal has made your life miserable. What a loser.
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No his not prioritizing UK is what pissed me off and should you guys too, but your to insecure to think we could ever win with another coach apparently.
Again though you will not try to refute the facts presented regarding the last 3 years because you cannot.
From 2010 until April 2015 Cal was the man no doubt, he was hungry and had a chip on his shoulder. Since then he has become complacent and has done a poor job coaching. It seems his priorities are somewhere else whether it be on NBA draftees, the Steelers, or whatever.
Does it make you wonder what in the hell we are doing in practice when announcers on games make comments such as “I have no idea what kind of offense Kentucky is trying to run”? Every year that ticks by since 2012 is reinforcing the argument that Cal just rolled the balls out there when he had 4 or 5 Wall, Cousins, Davis, Towns, Rose, and Camby types that were just way better than anyone else on the court.
When he does not have the elite players either him or his staff or both seem to have a difficult time getting the teams to play with intelligence, hustle, and desire.
So who should we hold responsible for the lack of those basic fundamentals of any sport? This group should have been humiliated and humbled by the gang rape that Duke did and should have came out to make a statement after that, instead we give up 75 plus points to mid major 500 clubs.
His teams lately have no desire to play defense, have no offensive rhythm at all and frankly do not seem to enjoy him screaming like a lunatic mad man on the sidelines. He needs to drop the damn celebrity coach shtick and just be our basketball coach because that’s what these kids need is a coach not someone to market them for the draft.
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I don't go berzerk for years about something I can't control. Nobody that's sane does. You're a mess, and can't be taken seriously. I was just reading a post from yours from 2016. You basically haven't stopped crying since the 2015 Wisconsin game. Seek help. Your priorities in life are garbage.
They don’t give trophies for most wins. Or most tournament wins. Those are individual achievements for Cal. Just like draft picks and #1 recruiting classes.
Putting up good posts just seem to have passed you by. Just haven't a really good post worthy of having the privilege of posting here. I see other posters that I think are better.
You had your chance. Just don't think you have it anymore. You should not be allowed to post on here.
Quite true. But the CLOD will seize on this type of stuff to spew the latest Cal hate propaganda. The notion that Cal is on a hot seat is asinine.
Ok, the latest official CLOD perspective is that wins and tournament wins are largely irrelevant. Only thing that matters is trophies. Do I have that right?
Folks, this is the sort of bumbling logic you need to make a case against Cal. In essence it’s the babbling one might expect from a U6 meth head.
Point was after the Billy G hire another miss like that and he would have lost his job for sure. The fan base would have went nuts. So Yep, Cal made him look like a genius and did save his job.
Let's get rid of Cal and hire Pitino. You seem to think he is a great coach. He was at Louisville 16 years and won 0 titles and lost 90% of the games he played Cal. I heard Pitino is now looking for a job.
Who tf cares about win totals lol. If a fan of any other program came to me talking about number of wins over the last X amount of years I’d say well how many championships have you won? No one cares how many wins we have. I can’t believe so many people are ok with sub-par teams.
Your logic is flawed since they do have a gm where they can trade for players, and since the Yankees are win at all costs they can do what they want. Cal isn’t paying guys to come here that’s the difference. Plus they are 18 years old. Most guys want to be the man, which is why they go elsewhere. If cal could offer guys huge deals he would bring in atleast 3 top 5 guys every year
We are forgetting that Kansas St is legit, they are legit this yr as well, they will be top 10. That game I hate to say it was lost st the line...they shutdown SGA and Knox and put it on PJ...as he missed more it snowballed and got in his head, always thought Cal shours of pulled him out for a second and talk to him, but I've been told that would be the worse thing to do by coach buddy of mine. It's the tournament weird **** happens, that's what make it great
Rafters. Meet clueless.
Maybe good teams have passed Cal by
There is no flaw, both guys had some of the top talent available in their sport. It does not matter how it arrived there it is the success they had with said talent. We are at the point we are having 8 - 10 loss seasons and not even winning in our “football conference “. We cannot just keep accepting the “just wait till March” line year after year and flame out in the sweet 16 and do the same the following season. It’s now a cycle that cannot be stopped unless Cal can get the top dogs again, or convince guys to return that should and he seems to pride himself on draftees so you tell me how it can be fixed. When we are now consistently losing games against Duke, Kansas, and other ranked teams how does that look to a recruit. These kids we are recruiting now are 15/16 years old the don’t remember 2012 and probably don’t remember much prior to 2014 or 2015. Also the U19 disaster that Cal coached hurt him bad and a few players have openly criticized him.
No, there aren't a bunch of great coaches that would work here. Please name a few. They might have success, but they will not come close to matching Cal's success here.
This isn't 20 years ago. I don't care how Damn elite the program is, it's the coach that better be elite. The days of kids choosing schools because of the name and history are long gone for the most part.
Finally, many can't or don't want to coach here because of pressure, expectations, fish bowl environment, and all the things you have to do besides coach. Cal thrives in all those areas. And who all honestly will want to follow Cal and what he's done here? Cause whoever it is will be underwhelming.
Uh, I'm not trying to get rid of Cal or push Cal out. I'm just saying we are an elite program. Every coach we've had since Rupp that lasted more than 5 seasons has won a title. Yall need to stop acting like Cal made UK.
Bruce Pearl, Billy Donavan (3rd time a charm, right?) and then Chris Holtmann.(grew up in Lexington) However, I would rather see Cal stick it out and become great again. I want the Umass version of Cal though.
What is it going to take for you people to realize that maintaining the level of success from 2010-2015 is practically impossible? Only 2 other coaches in the history of the game besides Cal has made 4 final fours in 5 years. K, and Wooden. Why can't you realize there are ebbs and flows of success even by HOF coaches at great programs?
Coach K went 9 years between titles twice, going to the final four only once in a 9 year stretch. All the things being said on this board about Cal, I mean pretty much literally everything, was being said about Roy post the 09' championship by UNC fans. He ends up going to two title games, losing one on a last second shot, and then winning one the next year. (Yes I know they only got there because we got screwed) but the point remains. We were in the same kind of lull as these coaches and programs. HOF Coaches figure it out.
Oh and you're dead wrong, not only do all of his peers know he didn't just roll the balls out, anyone who knows anything about basketball knows it's never been true.
Why do you last 3 years drama queens coincidently leave out that we were the best team in the country come tournament time in 2017? Only a massive screw job in the elite 8, and a last second shot loss to the fake champs cost us a title. Oh and we're 5 games into the season. Y'all gonna look ridiculous when these threads are bumped in March.
Of course we're an elite program. But we've listed numerous elite programs in this thread who've fell on very hard times, and some have stayed there. It's cause of the arrogance of people that think it could never happen to my program, combined with bad coaching hires.
Everyone of us know Cal did not make UK what it is, but he sure as hell added to it and checks every box needed to be the coach here. And as much as it's going to suck, I can't wait to see how different your tunes are when Cal is gone and the new coach is underperforming.
And you can't cherry pick by saying every coach that lasted longer than 5 years. And how long were some of the title droughts? 20 years, 18 years, and 14 years. We were mired in the longest final four drought ever until Cal came here.
Pearl would never happen. Way to much baggage. Plus he's a snitch. I don't want a snitch coaching. Donovan would be great but the timing would have to perfect. Plus he had a handful of really bad seasons. Holtmann? No way is that dude built to coach here.
2017 was a very good year with a screw job from winning it all. 2 years before that 38-1 and the year before that a title game. But you know all that. You hate Cal and you are no Cat fan. Questioning Cal and wanting better results is understandable but your anti Cal agenda is Hijacking most of the threads.
Well you can keep acting like we're a garbage program who is only good because of Cal. I will not because I know the truth. Kentucky basketball is more prestigious as a program than Cal is as a coach. While I love Cal and I'm happy that he's our coach, he is not the only person who can succeed here.
He wants Cal fired, but doesn't like it if someone suggests he should not be allowed to post on here, Logic and understand are lost on this dude. Good post KYFOSSIL.
This is faulty thinking. It presumes that KY cannot win at a high level without Cal. It's this type of irrational fear that ultimately makes fans settle. Other coaches will not be able to recruit like Cal, thats probably true. But other coaches can and will win titles here. Which is the ultimate barometer.
You are one of the people complaining about one and dones. You should be happy now. Oh I forgot nothing makes you happy.
Go back to the Louisville board where you belong. Where they have not won a title in decades.
You are out of your mind if you think John Calipari's job at UK is in any jeopardy. There isn't any truth at all to that.
A different question would be whether the time has come for Cal to tweak his sales pitch. That time has come.
It is also time for Joel Justus to use the career value he has built here to make a move to a developing program and free up a staff job for a more experienced recruiter who can bring a new approach and some new energy.
Forgot bout that...Snitches get Stitches.
At least Pearl can focus on basketbsll since he just got divorced, like when BCG...I mean um forgot...Snitches get stitches
For the upteenth millionth time, want Cal to adapt to the times. Shooting 14 threes a game today is way too low. Force the ball inside, get fouled and missing free throws doesn't work. To quote the dumbest guy on this board, those are wasted possessions. Now I realize making free throws helps. We need to be up in the mid 20's on threes per game.
We shoot 14 threes making 5, our opponents are making one less than we are taking.
We shoot 14 threes making 5, our opponents are making one less than we are taking.
I disagree about Pearl. Holtmann would be good only if he could do really great at Ohio State the next few years.