Does Cal Win Another Title Here?
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No. It won’t happen. Can’t keep players long enough to not be a complete rebuilding project with inconsistent play.
We have never done anything without guys who have some experience. 2010 had PPatt, 2011 had Liggins, Harrellson and Miller, 2012 had Miller and two returning stars as sophomores, 2013 had no one and we went to the NIT, 2014 had WCS and Poy, 2015 had Harrisons, WCS, Dakari, Poy, 2016 had no one inside, 2017 had Willis and Hawkins.
It’s not happening. I believed it was possible last year and 2014 and 2015 but it’s not coming.
We have never done anything without guys who have some experience. 2010 had PPatt, 2011 had Liggins, Harrellson and Miller, 2012 had Miller and two returning stars as sophomores, 2013 had no one and we went to the NIT, 2014 had WCS and Poy, 2015 had Harrisons, WCS, Dakari, Poy, 2016 had no one inside, 2017 had Willis and Hawkins.
It’s not happening. I believed it was possible last year and 2014 and 2015 but it’s not coming.
It’s not a secret. They don’t run off all their talent every year.
Not unless he either:
1) gets his recruiting mojo back, or
2) gets guys who should stay and develop, to stay and develop.
1) gets his recruiting mojo back, or
2) gets guys who should stay and develop, to stay and develop.
I don't buy that. Getting the the FF can give confidence like no other. Anything can happen at that point. The 2003 Syracuse team beat a very experienced Kansas team. Yes they had melo, but they were very young at critical positions.
Next year IF he doesn’t push 4+ out the door this year. we have another 2012 in the making and everyone wins. Lose 4 or more and it’s 2013.
Should only lose Knox and Shai who’s stock will never get higher, but pj may have played himself into a mid 1st rd pick, Diallo could make it 4 with one good workout and Vanderbilt’s a wild card. the bottom 3 are G league bound if they leave today IMO.
Ask me again after the draft when I know our roster.
Should only lose Knox and Shai who’s stock will never get higher, but pj may have played himself into a mid 1st rd pick, Diallo could make it 4 with one good workout and Vanderbilt’s a wild card. the bottom 3 are G league bound if they leave today IMO.
Ask me again after the draft when I know our roster.
LOL got to be 95% something - healthy I guess.... but its ok to start a 20% that can not hold the ball
I think this is the thing. It seems Cal pushes them. He likes the $1B mantra. Which is good for his (former) players, but not good for championships.
If you just look at the NBA now, Cal had John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, and Patrick Patterson on the same team and still laid an egg. Lets not even get into the KAT team, Ulis, Booker, Jesus. Its becoming clear he got lucky by having possibly a generational type player in Anthony Davis.
Depends on how much longer he coaches. The guy got a team that people said wouldn't even make the tournament to the sweet sixteen after winning the SEC tournament no one thought we'd win. We're in a position to win it year in and year out. How many other coaches do that? I believe the answer is YES if he coaches 5 years or more.
In some ways, maybe his former players need to be paying his salary.
I still support Cal, however that shouldn’t be his mentality.
Oh he could win another one under the right conditions. He isn't recruiting like he used to and if he loses Wiseman to Penny that streak of not getting too 5 players is going to continue. If enough guys stick around for two or three years he could snag another.
Not just Davis, the NBA lockout is a huge reason why we won it in 2012.
That's fair, and I see your point. I just don't see them being able to beat a decent team, but the point is moot I suppose since they couldn't even handle k-state.
He has not "faced" it.... he chose it. He is the top dog and chooses what goes on.... don't be acting it is an act of god that we are always young. It is his choice.
I would argue that those two years were plagued with critical injuries of guys we needs to win those games.
Yes, he will win next year for sure. Maybe the 3rd 3 years later. Go Cats
Most of his Memphis teams were pretty good without the one and dones, with the exception of Evans and Rose. I'm not sure it will happen if we keep playing 5 freshman, you have to have some veteran leadership on the team and we didn't have any. The two sophomores didn't even start at the end of the year.
No, I mean Syracuse won their only title with Kansas missing 18 free throws .
i honestly don't think so. We struggled to win it with Anthony Davis and Co and didn't with the platoons. Cal will always have us there because of talent but he has to decide to coach more than just effort and psychologically. He knows the game but seems to have an aversion or think it's below him to have to strategically game coach or plan. Brags about not having to watch film , thinks it's silly to run in bounds plays, never recognizes match up advantages we have, always has athletic advantage but rarely uses that to pressure and create tempo, seems to play it straight most of the time the hard way.
He himself needs to be an 8 point difference maker in games which he can do if he wants to and if so I'll change my mind and say yes
Oh my bad. But the thought did make me chuckle ... and i appreciate that right now.
NO
He is getting whatever recruits Duke doesn't want. I mean it took a team with best player since Lebron to win. We have 2 deep team gets beat in FF, oh by the way undefeated, John Wall-Boogie Cousins. Wow.
Coach K and Roy Williams would have won with those teams. Those UNC teams that won in 09 and other were best teams and they won with ease.
Cal likes to talk about playing fast but his DNA says slow muck it up UMASS. This is why UCONN beat us twice and Wisky ruins our season. Cal is fine coach but he has flat out been out coached in big games. Calhoun, Ollie, Wisky.
No more NC's, I mean 14-15 were great opportunities, this bracket. No he is not going to win another.
Hope he stays for a long time but not happening. AD comes along maybe
He is getting whatever recruits Duke doesn't want. I mean it took a team with best player since Lebron to win. We have 2 deep team gets beat in FF, oh by the way undefeated, John Wall-Boogie Cousins. Wow.
Coach K and Roy Williams would have won with those teams. Those UNC teams that won in 09 and other were best teams and they won with ease.
Cal likes to talk about playing fast but his DNA says slow muck it up UMASS. This is why UCONN beat us twice and Wisky ruins our season. Cal is fine coach but he has flat out been out coached in big games. Calhoun, Ollie, Wisky.
No more NC's, I mean 14-15 were great opportunities, this bracket. No he is not going to win another.
Hope he stays for a long time but not happening. AD comes along maybe