Does Bo Bounds not follow recruiting at all?

Msubulldogfan1

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He always acts so clueless on these kids and their names and their rankings, who’s big time and who’s not. Seems like he should be a little more knowledgeable. Just bugs me.

I can only compare it to some of the shows here in Nashville, whom all of them know who the big prospects are in state and who the respective programs are going after.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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He always acts so clueless on these kids and their names and their rankings, who’s big time and who’s not. Seems like he should be a little more knowledgeable. Just bugs me.

I can only compare it to some of the shows here in Nashville, whom all of them know who the big prospects are in state and who the respective programs are going after.

A lot of stuff he says makes him sound clueless. His second job is as Mullen’s ball washer.
 

JoMo MoJo

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No too busy reading message boards to know what the “cool”, “hip”, or new thing is to say. Then he spends his remaining time hanging out at Circle 7 polishing the Filson luggage and YETIs.
 

maroonmania

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A lot of stuff he says makes him sound clueless. His second job is as Mullen’s ball washer.

Not Bo himself, but he had Dave Bartoo on the other day spouting about how our win total odds (8.4 wins this Fall) were too high. Thought we would be more in the 6-7 win area because of the coaching changeover. That was OK I guess, but he also gave another reason as being because of our schedule wearing on us due to our lack of depth apparently because we are in his words "an SEC West low end recruiter". Well, only issue with that is that this is probably the deepest MSU football team I can ever remember, on both sides of the ball, in the roughly 35+ years I've been following MSU football. The other item he brought up was that he was positive on the coaching ability of both Moorhead and our DC Bob Shoop and talked about what a great combination they were when they coached together at Penn St. Only issue there is that they never coached together at PSU. When JoMo came into coach the PSU offense Shoop was already gone to the TN job. Certainly wasn't one of Bartoo's better efforts.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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Then you really shouldn’t listen to Wimberly.

And if it doesn’t involve overpriced yuppie stuff like 30A or Yeti’s then he’s pretty clueless
 

Mafiadawg

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He kept going on about the bears class ranking but would not dive into how it’s completely propped up on quantity and a crap ton of low 3s. It’s simple stuff but he refuses to discuss it for some reason. I think maybe he feels that discussing the specifics of crooting is below him? I’m not sure.
 

Philly Dawg

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Bartoo has a formula that he uses that is more mathy than math. He combines without explanation statistical analyses - for example, teams tend to do worse after a coaching change - and fundamentals based analyses - ratings of recruits. After he responded to a criticism I made of one of his statistical arguments, I asked why he’d combine the two. Wouldn’t fundamentals based analysis be intended to identify teams that would perform better or worse than statistical averages?

For example, teams that do very well in one year will, on average, do worse the next year. But he doesn’t predict Bama to decline, based on fundamentals such as recruiting. If for other teams he ignores fundamentals and predicts decline based on statistics, he’s applying an ad hoc approach.
 

maroonmania

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Bartoo has a formula that he uses that is more mathy than math. He combines without explanation statistical analyses - for example, teams tend to do worse after a coaching change - and fundamentals based analyses - ratings of recruits. After he responded to a criticism I made of one of his statistical arguments, I asked why he’d combine the two. Wouldn’t fundamentals based analysis be intended to identify teams that would perform better or worse than statistical averages?

For example, teams that do very well in one year will, on average, do worse the next year. But he doesn’t predict Bama to decline, based on fundamentals such as recruiting. If for other teams he ignores fundamentals and predicts decline based on statistics, he’s applying an ad hoc approach.

The mathy stuff is all well and good but my point was he said some stupid stuff on the OOB show the other day that just made him sound like he is ill informed.
 
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He kept going on about the bears class ranking but would not dive into how it’s completely propped up on quantity and a crap ton of low 3s. It’s simple stuff but he refuses to discuss it for some reason. I think maybe he feels that discussing the specifics of crooting is below him? I’m not sure.

Because he goes overboard to be impartial. No one in their right mind would say State is going to win 7 games with the team they have coming back, and no one with any common sense would do anything except laugh at ole miss for their current recruiting class that will be lucky to break the top 25 in February.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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He also talked about wearing your hat backwards when grilling. WTF. I like his show, but saying stuff like you have to wear your hat backwards when grilling is beyond douchey
 
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I get the statistical analysis stuff is Bartoo's thing, but what's wrong with looking at past results, returning production, and schedule too? He says "5 top 15 recruiters in 41 days" like it completely supersedes everything else. Have those guys actually played up to that ranking? Based on recent results that answer is no. Plus look at what proven talent we return.

I fully expect to beat Florida and aTm at home next year. Auburn and @LSU will be toss ups, but we absolutely can win both of those games. Sometimes these stats guys get too wrapped up in numbers and quit paying attention to the actual on field results.
 

MSUDawg25

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The fact that he gets what is essentially the prime sports talk radio spot in the state is disgusting. Morning drive time (7-10am?) Mon-Fri on the biggest sportstalk station in the state. It’s the only thing propping him up. If you had Carrot Top hosting the Tonight Show, it would still get viewers simply because it’s the Tonight Show.

I don’t think he’s biased or anything silly like that. I just think he’s a no-talent clown. And Bartoo is a hack.
 

CadaverDawg

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I stopped listening to him. He acts like it's beneath him and that he doesn't know anything about recruits (because if he did that would make him lesser), but he actually does know more than he lets on. For instance, listen how he'll intentionally botch a very common name of a State recruit, and then say "is it pronounced Smith, or Smyth, guys?" and ask his producer kids. It's those continuous lame attempts at trying to act like he's too much of a big shot to share the same knowledge his audience has that is a turn off to me.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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Sadly, yes. He was talking about how he rarely grills steaks. Then he said the y’all lifestyle is sitting on your deck with the grill on and your hat backwards.
 
Sep 25, 2013
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I stopped listening to him. He acts like it's beneath him and that he doesn't know anything about recruits (because if he did that would make him lesser), but he actually does know more than he lets on. For instance, listen how he'll intentionally botch a very common name of a State recruit, and then say "is it pronounced Smith, or Smyth, guys?" and ask his producer kids. It's those continuous lame attempts at trying to act like he's too much of a big shot to share the same knowledge his audience has that is a turn off to me.

I've noticed that exact same thing 😂😂. I thought it was just in my head.
 

Mafiadawg

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I stopped listening to him. He acts like it's beneath him and that he doesn't know anything about recruits (because if he did that would make him lesser), but he actually does know more than he lets on. For instance, listen how he'll intentionally botch a very common name of a State recruit, and then say "is it pronounced Smith, or Smyth, guys?" and ask his producer kids. It's those continuous lame attempts at trying to act like he's too much of a big shot to share the same knowledge his audience has that is a turn off to me.

Yea this.
 

dawgstudent

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Bartoo’s worst formula was the assistant coach metric he had. I remember him completely dogging Georgia’s assistants at the beginning of the season.
 
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