Does Ash know what he's doing?
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I don't care if every single Flood recruit decommits tomorrow. If they don't fit his system he should get rid of them. What I do care about is he has yet to get a single commit. Kirby Smart already flipped a 5-star. Scott Frost is going gangbusters in Florida. And they've not been HC for any longer.
Our HC may be working his rear off - I don't know and neither do you. But in the end, he has nothing to show for it this far.
Our HC may be working his rear off - I don't know and neither do you. But in the end, he has nothing to show for it this far.
Never have we seen so many know so much about what they can't possibly know.
Just posted a similar post on the other board and it was removed. I guess I'm an idiot to think it is not ok for him to coach for OSU while decommitts pile up. Wtf
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Unlike some here, I don't think we are going to replace the 4 or 5 decommits with better players this year..... I know a lot of fans wanted Flood gone, and openly said they
would take the trade of a lost recruiting year to get rid of him....
they probably will get exactly that.
no, the year is not totally lost, but we are probably going to wind up with a far below average recruiting class than we
usually wind up with....
part of that pessimism is the lack of time between now and signing day.....we are now chasing after players we failed to recruit all along...... it is very late in the game to come swooping in, we are not a program that commands late attention, like an Alabama..... I don't think Ash can do it this year.....
Campbell is a recruit most here believe Ash wanted, the program could surely use..... it was posted that Ash went as far as to tell him he would like Campbell to be a leader
in the recruiting class.....did not go well for us, did it?
Me, I am prepared to have this recruiting class ranked in the 70's, let Ash work with what we have, be a very good planner, an x's and o's man.....win a few more than expected
next year, and get more rep as a good coach..... the good coach rep will help him more than anything, but he has to have a year in the books first.
I am sure he will assemble a staff of good recruiters, next year is the year.
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RU backer,
I said he needed to rework his body, and he was a project. If you think he is slow and sucks fine, but please do not attribute your BS to me.
I said he needed to rework his body, and he was a project. If you think he is slow and sucks fine, but please do not attribute your BS to me.
The counter to this argument is that creating and supporting a thread calling into question the competency of a new Head Coach after one week because of a couple of decommitments from the previously incompetent recruiting & coaching staff is an even sadder trend here.
Maybe so, and I don't have premium so I'm sure people know more about what's actually going on than I do, but it just seems really unlikely to me that Ash or his staff have told certain kids to look elsewhere. If he is doing that, it would certainly be very unusual.
Normally a new coach would get his own recruits, and let it filter out naturally. You don't run kids off first, and then try to backfill. We have spots to give anyway.
This does not mean that Ash doesn't have my full support... Of course he does. And of course decommits are to be expected when a new coaching staff come on. I just think the excuse that this is part of the plan and ash didn't want these kids seems farfetched. They are freely deciding to go elsewhere.
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I wouldn't care if a majority of Flood recruits decommitted. We watched first hand how Flood's roster stacked up against the rest of the B1G. They got worked week in and week out.
We know more and more, about less and less, until we know everything about nothing.
In Ash i trust. I promised myself not to criticize the new coach if my prayers were answered that Flood would get canned. I'm good with whatever Ash is thinking right now. If we are going to get better we need different players than Flood was getting.
We're worried about a kid who apparently got mad about another talented teammate joining him, instead of being really excited, which is the way it works with most top players. That's not tough, not competitive, not in alignment with program goals. If being a big fish in a small pond is what is important to him, then I could see how he would not fit in with the goals of the new regime.
Apparently the kid is a quitter.
I thought only QBs were afraid to have someone else recruited at their positions.
The timing of those 2 tweets is very telling, and disappointing.
Phil, do you think you will be the only safety at Pitt?
Maybe if we win the B10 east, Ash will get a diamond grill too.
Also of note from the article:
The first-year head coach has shown a unique ability to balance being that “players’ coach” while also keeping his team disciplined and focused. Back in late October, when UH cracked the Coaches Poll for the first time, Herman noticed something that set him off right after. He went into the Cougars locker room and noticed dirty laundry all over the floor and some foot lockers open.
“The place looked like (bleep),” Herman told FOX Sports a few days later. “We want that place to be ‘recruit-ready’ 24 hours a day. It needs to be pristine, and it wasn’t."
Herman winced about what the sloppy locker room was a sign of. “We’re changing back into these old ways,” Herman thought — and that can’t happen. Herman ripped his team the next day at a meeting and had everyone — players, staff, even UH’s head trainer, who Herman said is like 71 years old — running half-gassers after practice. “Yeah, we were 6-0, but I’m thinking, 'If I let this one go, we’re heading down a slippery slope and it was gonna bite us in the ***.'"
http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...amond-grill-aac-championship-paul-wall-121415
These are people's lives you are talking about. No one wants to go to multiple colleges and continue to uproot their lives. No coach wants players on his roster that he is committed to for 4 years that can't do the jobs he needs done. You don't just take "bodies".
The funny thing is that Pitt is also going hard after Rene. Rene is Campbell's tormentor haha
This was discussed when it happened. Wasn't there zero indication that his tweet had anything to do with Rene's commitment?
Back in June - when he made his original decision - he said
"One of the main reasons why I pulled the trigger was because they told me that they were only taking one safety in my class and they wanted that guy to be me," Campbell said. "I was the number one guy on their board. And to me, that stood out among all the other college offers that I had."
Now, many things go into a decision making process & no way do we know them all. However, it is not out of the question that a guy who has always been "the guy" - never played back-up ... would be really really concerned about maintaining that status if playing in his backyard where friends & family see his every move. Maybe being at a school 6 hours away that is not visible 24/7 by every human he knows - maybe the peer pressure he feels is less.
Get the sense that Campbell is a hard working / over achiever - but may have classic gnawing self-doubts - and may be freaked out about the intensity of the degree of "under the microscope" that he might personally feel if he stays local - and it turns out that he just goes up against competition that he can't surpass. Very likely he is terrified at the thought of being second string in an environment where he has always been number one.
"One of the main reasons why I pulled the trigger was because they told me that they were only taking one safety in my class and they wanted that guy to be me," Campbell said. "I was the number one guy on their board. And to me, that stood out among all the other college offers that I had."
Now, many things go into a decision making process & no way do we know them all. However, it is not out of the question that a guy who has always been "the guy" - never played back-up ... would be really really concerned about maintaining that status if playing in his backyard where friends & family see his every move. Maybe being at a school 6 hours away that is not visible 24/7 by every human he knows - maybe the peer pressure he feels is less.
Get the sense that Campbell is a hard working / over achiever - but may have classic gnawing self-doubts - and may be freaked out about the intensity of the degree of "under the microscope" that he might personally feel if he stays local - and it turns out that he just goes up against competition that he can't surpass. Very likely he is terrified at the thought of being second string in an environment where he has always been number one.
Thankfully the coach is probably too busy to be reading stuff like this. He would be shaking his head in disbelief. $$$$
So not so much that he doesn't want to compete, but more that Flood and Co. told him a blatant lie to get him to commit. Unreal.
OSU will go after him hard as well. Not to mention pretty much every Power 5 school.
The surprise is not that we've lost Morgan, and a few others, the surprise is that -- given all the crap with its' bad publicity, the coaching change, essentially retaining none of the prior staff -- we haven't lost more. The kid stated his connection with RU was through Flood and his guys; now they're all gone.
- The ones who committed here due to Flood or someone else on Flood's staff will not stick.
- The ones that committed because they wanted to go to Rutgers will stick no matter what.
- Anyone new will be because they want to play for Ash and Ash's staff.
What exactly is your angle? Based on your posts you seem like a disgruntled Pernetti/Schiano guy and want to do whatever it takes to trash the new coach.
Yes there will be decommits and transfers with the change in coaching staffs....there generally always are. I'm sure you will be here to complain about them as you have already done in regards to pretty much everything about Ash.
Most likely Flood was only going to take one Safety in June, however things changed drastically when 3/4 of the RU Secondary got arrested in August.
It's late in the game, almost the entire staff is being replaced and the team has mostly stunk for the last 3 to 4 years; it's definitely an uphill battle. If Ash can just pick up one or two really good late commits I'd be thrilled and that would signal a lot of promise to me.
Odds are he's going to be scrambling for the next couple of years to fill spots. It would be miraclulous if things turned out otherwise.
Odds are he's going to be scrambling for the next couple of years to fill spots. It would be miraclulous if things turned out otherwise.
I have no idea how we will finish 2016, but I expect a good uptick for 2017. It is common when new coaches are brought on board.