Did you see that?

[Joey Bags]

You’d be surprised how often D1 guards can make that shot in practice. It’s probably more like 1/20 if not less.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

You could argue that shooting with 5 seconds gave the opportunity for an offensive rebound and put back, where if you shot with less time, less of a chance

meh. Your home. It’s a tie game. You hold for the last shot. Worst possibility is OT. Very poor decision.

 

[S_Janowski]

You could argue that shooting with 5 seconds gave the opportunity for an offensive rebound and put back, where if you shot with less time, less of a chance

Yes, but the better opportunity at an offensive rebound and quick put back is off a shot much closer to the hoop.

Your rebounders are in a better position and much closer to the hoop vs. trying to rebound a ball off a long 3.

Also when you drive to the hoop you collapse the defense and draw them to the basket. If they get a defensive rebound they are much less likely to be in a position to get the ball up to mid court and make that half court shot in 2-3 seconds like they did last night.

 

[wheezer]

meh. Your home. It’s a tie game. You hold for the last shot. Worst possibility is OT. Very poor decision.

Imho
Not really a poor decision
It took a miracle shot to lose

Of course it looks bad because of that miracle shot

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

You can think it’s ridiculous but you’re also missing the point I was trying to make to BAC.

The discussion between me and BAC was about the shot itself (which he called 1 in 10,000).

Everything you stated there has nothing to do with the shot itself, which was only made possible because the Maryland kid shot a three with 5 seconds left in a tie game, which made it a poor shot imo.

Original point was that the Maryland kid should have taken a better shot with less time left on the clock.

Upon closer review of the original 1/10,000 post - I don’t think he was saying that shot itself is made that infrequently.

Rather, I believe he was saying that the odds of the game outcome going down that way in Michigan State’s favor in regulation following Maryland’s shot attempt was 1/10,000. To pull it off, only a shot like that could’ve been attempted as there wasn’t enough time for Michigan State to run the floor for a closer look. But for that to happen, first Maryland’s shot had to miss - it had to be a rebound on the long side fielded cleanly by Michigan State in such a way where forward progress could immediately begin without time coming off the clock. And then he had to actually get the shot off.

It’s still probably more like 1 in a thousand not ten thousand but it’s very low odds. In any case, I still don’t see why you give them a chance to rebound. Hold for the last shot when your the home team IMO.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Speaking of half-court shots, this ranks as perhaps the toughest. Harris was fouled, found a way to maintain possession, and hurl a one-handed heave. A memorable moment for this Nets fan.



Coincidentally, Harris is celebrating his 42nd birthday today!

 

[S_Janowski]

Upon closer review of the original 1/10,000 post - I don’t think he was saying that shot itself is made that infrequently.

Rather, I believe he was saying that the odds of the game outcome going down that way in Michigan State’s favor in regulation following Maryland’s shot attempt was 1/10,000. To pull it off, only a shot like that could’ve been attempted as there wasn’t enough time for Michigan State to run the floor for a closer look. But for that to happen, first Maryland’s shot had to miss - it had to be a rebound on the long side fielded cleanly by Michigan State in such a way where forward progress could immediately begin without time coming off the clock. And then he had to actually get the shot off.

It’s still probably more like 1 in a thousand not ten thousand but it’s very low odds. In any case, I still don’t see why you give them a chance to rebound. Hold for the last shot when your the home team IMO.

I hear what you’re saying..but I interpreted BACs point differently and it being more about a half court shot being such a rare occurrence.

Its miracle from 55 feet. How many shots beyond half court have you seen..was Harper shot over Purdue a miracle. Let's not act it was within half court

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I hear what you’re saying..but I interpreted BACs point differently and it being more about a half court shot being such a rare occurrence.

Look at that post before that one. The one you posted is just defending that the shot doesn’t go in that often. A Hail Mary miracle and 1 / 10,000 are not the same thing. Hail Mary’s are successful way more than once in every 10,000 tries. But in this case - several other things had to go exactly right too to get an opportunity for that shot. The prior post discusses the fact that MD had an open look with only 2.9 seconds in regulation.

 

[S_Janowski]

Look at that post before that one. The one you posted is just defending that the shot doesn’t go in that often. A Hail Mary miracle and 1 / 10,000 are not the same thing. Hail Mary’s are successful way more than once in every 10,000 tries. But in this case - several other things had to go exactly right too to get an opportunity for that shot. The prior post discusses the fact that MD had an open look with only 2.9 seconds in regulation.

That would explain the disconnect.

Still not sure why Bac couldn’t just agree it was a pretty poor shot selection by the Maryland kid.

Looks like he’s moved on from this thread though lol.

 

[FinalFourOrBust_rivals142702]

Maryland player got lazy and pulled up too early for an unnecessary deep 3.

I wouldn’t call it a miracle shot. 2.9 seconds is a ton of time to make a pass, get the ball to half court and have an open look at the basket….which is exactly what they did. As the Mich State player stated - they practiced that play.

Maybe it was a lucky shot as Izzo called it post game…but not a miracle shot.

Miracle shot would be chucking it one handed from the opposite foul line and winning it.

Lol it was a miracle. Even izzo said so.

 

[bac2therac]

Thanks for bringing me back in..

because i have no interest in debating minute opinions about whether it was 1 in 100 or 2000 or 10000. Its not a big deal in my posting for today

You look like obsessed in making this thread 2 pages...die on this hill like anyone gives a ****

It was a miracle ending to the last 5 seconds

And no the shot isn't 1-20 on the run receiving the ball with 1.9 sec and shooting it with .9 from 55 feet away whoever is promoting that idea

 

[RUwishbone]

The better team won the game

 

[dconifer0]

This one from a 2010 NCAA tournament game was even worse. We call this the "How did he know to duck?" game...

How did he know to duck?

 

[S_Janowski]

Thanks for bringing me back in..

because i have no interest in debating minute opinions about whether it was 1 in 100 or 2000 or 10000. Its not a big deal in my posting for today

You look like obsessed in making this thread 2 pages...die on this hill like anyone gives a ****

It was a miracle ending to the last 5 seconds

And no the shot isn't 1-20 on the run receiving the ball with 1.9 sec and shooting it with .9 from 55 feet away whoever is promoting that idea

You’re welcome.

So you have no interest in having a fun debate here about actual basketball, but you’ll spend dozens of hours every month debating RU #’s about the frigin’ weather?

Lmfao.

I did find it interesting you couldn’t just acknowledge it was a very poor shot selection by the Maryland player. Instead of just acknowledging this we got down the silly path of debating your “1 in 10,000 shot” statement.

For as much basketball as you watch, this should have been fairly obvious to acknowledge it was a bad last shot that allowed the lucky, unthinkable, miraculous, whatever want to call it that pleases you shot from MSU to even have a chance to be taken and go in.

Trust me, I’m not obsessed, it’s not that serious haha.

 

[hoquat63]

Showed it on ABC news tonight as well as a high school game, where game winner was almost as far

 

[S_Janowski]

Lol it was a miracle. Even izzo said so.

Not that it really matters, but he called it a “lucky shot” three times right after the game….which is what I said earlier in this thread.

I wouldn’t call a half court shot, a miracle shot. I’ve seen plenty of these over the years. Just my opinion.

 

[S_Janowski]

Showed it on ABC news tonight as well as a high school game, where game winner was almost as far

Lots of miracles lately!

 

[bac2therac]

Such a rarity it made the nightly news

 

[willisneverrana43]

It was a very low percentage shot that won it for the Spartans but I still say Gillespie shot too soon.

And bricked it right back to an MSU player.