Did you see that?
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You can argue Guillespe shot too soon or maybe he could have drove in but it was an open look and you don't expect a 55 plus foot shot...one in a ten thousand
Terrible shot when you only need 2, don’t make an attempt to get close to the hoop and leave that much time on the clock (I think there was 5 seconds left on the clock when he put it up).
That was not a punch, that was a kick.
And that was not the gut...
That was not a punch, that was a kick.
And that was not the gut...
Awesome !!
Still think msu doesn’t get out of the first weekend
Still think msu doesn’t get out of the first weekend
MSU got the rebound at 2.9....Holliman didnt get possession of the ball until 2.1 and shot it with about .9 left.....its a miracle shot
Maryland player got lazy and pulled up too early for an unnecessary deep 3.
I wouldn’t call it a miracle shot. 2.9 seconds is a ton of time to make a pass, get the ball to half court and have an open look at the basket….which is exactly what they did. As the Mich State player stated - they practiced that play.
Maybe it was a lucky shot as Izzo called it post game…but not a miracle shot.
Miracle shot would be chucking it one handed from the opposite foul line and winning it.
Its miracle from 55 feet. How many shots beyond half court have you seen..was Harper shot over Purdue a miracle. Let's not act it was within half court
Just because it doesn’t happen often doesn’t make it a miracle.
It doesn’t happen often because a very, very large % of games don’t give the opportunity for it to happen.
The Maryland kid created the opportunity by shooting too early. That’s the point I’m trying to make.
It’s not a 1 in 10,000 shot like you called it. Half court shots happen all the time - don’t you watch college basketball?
MSU wouldn’t be wasting time practicing that play if it was 1 in 10,000 lol.
God message boards are ridiculous. Arguing over miracles. To me it’s a miracle. It’s nearly March and kid hit a shot from over half court. Two top twenty teams. Winning team on the road. What does ai say about those chances.
It was a very low percentage shot that won it for the Spartans but I still say Gillespie shot too soon.
Arguing over the definition of miracle? C’mon.
If I’m a MSU fan, I’m calling it a miracle shot, regardless of how some dude on the Rutgers boards defines miracle.
If I’m a MSU fan, I’m calling it a miracle shot, regardless of how some dude on the Rutgers boards defines miracle.
I don’t know or care what AI says. Most high school boys would make that shot at least once if given 250 tries. 1/10,000 is a major exaggeration for sure for a D1 college player.
Middle school players goof around after practice and make shots like that. And obviously a D1 player has an easy time reaching. Being straight on it’s even easier.
Lucky, yes. But not miraculous or anything like that. Degree of difficulty not as extremely high as many might think. Shelby thinks it’s a 5-10% make rate. RHJ’s Purdue game winner from farther and on the angle was a much more difficult shot.
They’d make it a few times out of a hundred. College players even more. Great shot but not amazing.
You can think it’s ridiculous but you’re also missing the point I was trying to make to BAC.
The discussion between me and BAC was about the shot itself (which he called 1 in 10,000).
Everything you stated there has nothing to do with the shot itself, which was only made possible because the Maryland kid shot a three with 5 seconds left in a tie game, which made it a poor shot imo.
Original point was that the Maryland kid should have taken a better shot with less time left on the clock.
A tough shot with low odds but not a miracle.
It wasn’t a miraculous outcome either, since the game was tied and would have gone to OT if he missed. So less pressure on the release.
The RHJ shot was both tougher (splitting defenders to get it off) and more stunning because we went from losing to winning without the possibility of OT if he missed. Much more pressure at the point of release.
It wasn’t a miraculous outcome either, since the game was tied and would have gone to OT if he missed. So less pressure on the release.
The RHJ shot was both tougher (splitting defenders to get it off) and more stunning because we went from losing to winning without the possibility of OT if he missed. Much more pressure at the point of release.
Without a doubt he shot too soon. You make sure you shoot with only a second or so left................if we did that, 20 people on this board would immediately be blaming the horrible coaching from Pike...........and it would be partially a coaching issue but the player needs more situational awareness in that spot. Incredibly lucky shot, definitely not a miracle.
Some of our fans on these forums are miserable and clueless.
Yeah - HS boys who actually play basketball for sure. I was saying even kids who are just messing around would hit occasionally. My son made a half time buzzer beater like that in a rec game last year. He’s in elementary school. 1 in 10,000 way off.
Wieskamp’s 2018-19 contested corner banked 3 much closer to those odds, as an example. In horse - that shot attempt with a close out defender does not bank in more than once in every 10,000 attempts.
Very nice job of explaining yourself (see Tush Push thread on main board).
Terrible use of clock and choice of shot by Maryland, I’d make 1 in 20/30 of those as would most people who play/played decent amount of hoops
I launch these at the playground every once in a while and surprisingly a few occasionally go in.
Damn must be tiring to put up 20,000 - 30,000 shots!
I caught the last 5 minutes of a pretty ugly game. Michigan State seemed intent on keeping Maryland in it. The final shot is such a great element of the sport. You've got to be very conscious of the clock and weighing the fuzzy calculous of what is your best chance at scoring is going to be before the window shuts. 100% he is looking for a drive with the potential for the foul and the potential they give you a free path for fear of fouling but when they take that away you can't force it. Can't blame Gil for that missed 3 attempt. In real time I was thinking GET YOUR FEET RIGHT IT IS TIME TO LAUNCH just before he shot it.
Good point about driving to draw a foul.
They were in the double bonus…even more of a reason chucking up the 3 with 5 seconds left without making at attempt to drive was a bad decision imo.
A lot of people were ripping Dylan the other night against Washington for settling for a deep 3 to win the game instead of driving to the hoop.
Mind boggling that the kid launches a 30 footer with 4-5 seconds left, when he had a lane to drive to the hoop and either get fouled or shoot a short 2-pointer.
I agree it was an early shot by MD, but they also probably wanted to give themselves a shot at the rebound and putback.
Just a bad break by MD.
Whether you call it lucky or miracle, whatever. It wasn't some "good basketball play" by MSU. If it wasn't a fluke, then teams would shoot that shot during the course of the game.
Maryland’s last three losses have all been pretty brutal.
Half court buzzer beater against Michigan State.
Tied with OSU, Thornton banks in a three with 7 seconds left.
Tied in OT against Northwestern with .7 seconds Martinelli hits a floater off of an inbound.
Half court buzzer beater against Michigan State.
Tied with OSU, Thornton banks in a three with 7 seconds left.
Tied in OT against Northwestern with .7 seconds Martinelli hits a floater off of an inbound.
You could argue that shooting with 5 seconds gave the opportunity for an offensive rebound and put back, where if you shot with less time, less of a chance
There was no "they" in that sequence. The kid dribbled up court after MD got the rebound and simply launched the shot. There was no coaching "strategy," but rather it was all on the kid, and he just made a poor decision.