Did we hire Bert?

[Trojanbulldog19]

I swear that's all I could think of looking over there and seeing him over on the sidelines almost emotionless. So undisciplined. So stubborn. Let's keep trying to throw deep when we can't pass block to save our lives.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Ouch

 

[Drebin]

I don't know that we'd be any better, but we'd be running the damn football and utilizing our weapons better. Give me Bert over this any day if this is what it's going to be like.

 

[MSUDC11]

If it’s a one game aberration then I can forgive it eventually. It should’ve never happened, but win the next two games and I can start to forgive it. That said, it’s hard to have much faith that we will win the next two.

Joe’s a really smart guy and he’s had a lot of success everywhere he’s been, so I’m not going to write him off after one game. But tonight was awful, and that level of unpreparedness and lack of disciple can’t ever happen again.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

With these players and our schedule having a losing record is grounds for getting fired no matter who you are.

 

[Drebin]

If it’s a one game aberration then I can forgive it eventually. It should’ve never happened, but win the next two games and I can start to forgive it. That said, it’s hard to have much faith that we will win the next two.

Joe’s a really smart guy and he’s had a lot of success everywhere he’s been, so I’m not going to write him off after one game. But tonight was awful, and that level of unpreparedness and lack of disciple can’t ever happen again.

I just don't think his style is going to work in the SEC. This OL is a group of road graders and they looked like a Sun Belt OL tonight. We looked soft at the point of attack on both sides of the ball tonight. Kentucky's OL isn't that good and they controlled the line of scrimmage. It may very well be that Jomo's offense is not right for SEC defenses, and Shoop may be the shitshow of a defensive coach that we saw at Tennessee after all.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

agreed. being stubborn and not doing what your skill set does best will get your fired anywhere.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Berts teams played hard as hell till the end of his tenure

 

[MSUDC11]

I just don't think his style is going to work in the SEC. This OL is a group of road graders and they looked like a Sun Belt OL tonight. We looked soft at the point of attack on both sides of the ball tonight. Kentucky's OL isn't that good and they controlled the line of scrimmage. It may very well be that Jomo's offense is not right for SEC defenses, and Shoop may be the shitshow of a defensive coach that we saw at Tennessee after all.

In regard to Shoop, we gave up 300 total yards tonight. He was hardly the problem. Not saying our D was great, but we had way bigger issues.

Tonight was a complete 180 from how we looked in weeks 1-3. Obviously the competition is a big part of that, but I think any takes of “his style won’t work in the SEC” are premature. I do think many of his offensive concepts make a ton of sense and can result in big success when executed well. Tonight, we obviously didn’t execute, and it felt like we never could decide what we wanted to do. He’s got to get that figured out, but his track record at other schools suggests that he is more than capable of doing that.

I’m willing to give him a little bit longer before I form any conclusions. His first offense at Penn State had some big issues early in the year too. They lost 49-10 to Michigan in Week 4 in 2016. He’s got to win next week for sure, and probably needs to beat Auburn as well if he wants to prove he’s who we thought he was.

Tonight was inexcusable, and he’s got to get some major things fixed ASAP. It’s perfectly reasonable to raise big questions, but I think it’s way too early to know one way or another if he’s going to be a success or a failure. And that would’ve been true even if we had won comfortably tonight.

 

[Drebin]

In regard to Shoop, we gave up 300 total yards tonight. He was hardly the problem. Not saying our D was great, but we had way bigger issues.

Tonight was a complete 180 from how we looked in weeks 1-3. Obviously the competition is a big part of that, but I think any takes of “his style won’t work in the SEC” are premature. I do think many of his offensive concepts make a ton of sense and can result in big success when executed well. Tonight, we obviously didn’t execute, and it felt like we never could decide what we wanted to do. He’s got to get that figured out, but his track record at other schools suggests that he is more than capable of doing that.

I’m willing to give him a little bit longer before I form any conclusions. His first offense at Penn State had some big issues early in the year too. They lost 49-10 to Michigan in Week 4 in 2016. He’s got to win next week for sure, and probably needs to beat Auburn as well if he wants to prove he’s who we thought he was.

Tonight was inexcusable, and he’s got to get some major things fixed ASAP. It’s perfectly reasonable to raise big questions, but I think it’s way too early to know one way or another if he’s going to be a success or a failure. And that would’ve been true even if we had won comfortably tonight.

I hear you about Shoop, but we couldn't get off the field on defense at key times. Snell ran for 180+ yards on this defensive line. Someone has to answer for that. Snell should not have had 50 yards, let alone 180. I don't care how good he is. You gotta take that away and make their QB beat you with his arm. We didn't do that. We let them gash us. What did Snell have, 8 YPC? That's unacceptable and that's on Shoop.

As far as his style....the slow developing runs don't work with the faster DLs. Turning an average-at-best thrower into a pass-first QB doesn't work with better defensive backs. Having our OL sit back in pass blocking techniques makes them sitting ducks for good to great DEs. I realize it's one game but the results are extremely concerning.