Did the UMs get hosed?

[Maroon13]

Miami? Yes I say that's a catch. He got his feel down in and another step OB before the punch out.




Missouri, yes Manning's arm went forward. But Missouri should have jumped on that ball.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

That’s not a catch.

 

[OopsICroomedmypants]

Let's hope MSU gets the same benefit of doubt against Tn Tech.

 

[msstatelp1]

After our debacle at Memphis we better be teaching players to get the ball anytime it touches the ground.

 

[thekimmer]

That was a touchdown

 

[Villagedawg]

Both incomplete.

 

[FlotownDawg]

The Miami player bobbled the ball before it got knocked loose. Not a catch.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

And Arch’s is a fumble. They have called that consistently for a long time.

 

[Boosh]

Regarding Miami. They lost the game because of the interception on the drive prior to this one. But, as for the reception, it's not a catch as he didn't maintain control through the play which extends out of the field of play. I've noticed that receivers are taught from middle school (or younger) on to catch and tuck the ball. But when NFL players catch a ball high in the back or sides of the endzone they hold the ball high. If the Miami player would have done that, he wouldn't have lost control of it.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Miami? Yes I say that's a catch. He got his feel down in and another step OB before the punch out.




Missouri, yes Manning's arm went forward. But Missouri should have jumped on that ball.

He didn't secure it. No catch. And I'd like nothing more than for the irish to lose every game.

 

[ckDOG]

Miami incomplete. I don't know what the control rule reads for the Arch scenario but common sense says the ball doesn't make it 15 yards down the field without having enough control of the ball to rationalize calling it a fumble. Your arm would have had to control the ball long enough for forward leverage to get it downfield like that. He definitely lost control at some point but after a forward motion was established (I didn't see a defender slapping it forward).

 

[JackShephard]

Miami? Yes I say that's a catch. He got his feel down in and another step OB before the punch out.




Missouri, yes Manning's arm went forward. But Missouri should have jumped on that ball.

He didn't complete the catch. Also, Couldn't care less about Miami. They literally had a 2 game schedule and they went 1-1. I can't feel sorry for them. They will probably be a top 4 seed in the playoffs, and will have played 2, maybe 3 teams with a pulse. Screw 'em.

As for Missouri, that was an incomplete pass. All day, every day. So, yes, refs stills suck. But, again, screw Miami.

 

[Darryl Steight]

Miami incomplete. I don't know what the control rule reads for the Arch scenario but common sense says the ball doesn't make it 15 yards down the field without having enough control of the ball to rationalize calling it a fumble. Your arm would have had to control the ball long enough for forward leverage to get it downfield like that. He definitely lost control at some point but after a forward motion was established (I didn't see a defender slapping it forward).

That's what I thought, too. Ain't no way a fumble goes that far in the air.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Miami incomplete. I don't know what the control rule reads for the Arch scenario but common sense says the ball doesn't make it 15 yards down the field without having enough control of the ball to rationalize calling it a fumble. Your arm would have had to control the ball long enough for forward leverage to get it downfield like that. He definitely lost control at some point but after a forward motion was established (I didn't see a defender slapping it forward).

The same thing happened to Will Rogers at South Carolina and I think it happened to Kamario in the Bama game. Both were ruled fumbles.

 

[StillTbonewannabe]

Also, anyone that thinks ACC refs would screw the ACC champ vs someone not in the ACC is too special to argue with.

 

[ckDOG]

The same thing happened to Will Rogers at South Carolina and I think it happened to Kamario in the Bama game. Both were ruled fumbles.

Yeah something about the rules isn't letting them rule it a fumble. Which is fine. Needs to change though because those shouldn't be fumbles.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

I don't like the discrepancy between a rush and a pass. If you're running the ball and stick it out and for just a fraction of a second it crosses the plane then it's a touch down. Doesn't matter if it's immediately knocked loose or not. Had he been carrying that ball on a handoff it's a touchdown all day. But if it's a pass you have to catch it, take a few steps, not have it move at all on the way down, and then get up with it in your hands.

 

[Mjoelner]

I don't like the discrepancy between a rush and a pass. If you're running the ball and stick it out and for just a fraction of a second it crosses the plane then it's a touch down. Doesn't matter if it's immediately knocked loose or not. Had he been carrying that ball on a handoff it's a touchdown all day. But if it's a pass you have to catch it, take a few steps, not have it move at all on the way down, and then get up with it in your hands.

I was just about to post the exact same thing!

Several years ago I was watching a Bills preseason game and Allen threw a dart to the slot receiver on the left for about a 9yd TD. The guy caught the ball, never bobbled it, took 3 full steps in the endzone ran through the wide white stripe at the back of the endzone with full control of the ball then as he stepped off of the white a defender knocked it loose. After 3 steps in the endzone and 2 steps out of bounds with full control, it was ruled incomplete. To make it even more shocking to me former Bill Steve Tasker, who was one of the announcers, said it was the correct call.

 

[RocketDawg]

I'd even say he had 2 feet down, not just 1. He controlled the ball with both feet on the ground. That would be a reception/TD in the NFL.

 

[DAWGSANDSAINTS]

That was a touchdown

After further reviewS - I don’t think it was a catch.
And I had rather seen the U win that game over ND