Did Pitino really not know?

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It’s called “Plausible Deniability.” I don’t know and I don’t wanna know, just keep my name out of it. If Pitino didn’t know it’s because he didn’t want to know. You can’t get on national TV and say “if a chair get’s broken at Minardi Hall I’ll know about it, then say I didn’t know about any of those thing’s. You can’t have it both way’s.
 

Poetax

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I remember an interview with a former player that played for both Pitino and Tubby and he was asked to compare the two. He said Rick was all business and you didn't see him around unless it was practice or a game situation and Tubby was more of a father figure type of coach.

Then you have the Ray Allen recruitment when Allen was on a recruiting visit and Mashburn was his host. They were eating in the same restaurant that Pitino showed up at and Pitino did not even acknowledge Allen. Which in turn lead Allen to choose a different school.



I guess its too bad that we didn’t have half a Tubby and half a Ricky for a coach. As long as Tubby’s half could keep Ricky’s half out of the Italian restaurants after hours. :)
 
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IF Pitino didn't "KNOW" it was because he was ADAMANT that NONE of his assistant coaches leave a trail back to him.

Being the control freak he always has been, there is NO WAY in H_LL that he wasn't in on EVERY decision made in respect to his roster!!

Rick is ALWAYS going to protect himself above ALL else in EVERY aspect of his career and life. NEVER forget this!
 

bbnkat02

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He knew. I mean how can something that major happen and rumors AT THE LEAST not catch his attention. He’s a liar and a fraud.

And if someone will tell me how Sean Miller still has a job, I’d really like to know.

College basketball coach is getting right up there with used car salesman and Senator
 

RoyKent

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He knew. I mean how can something that major happen and rumors AT THE LEAST not catch his attention. He’s a liar and a fraud.

And if someone will tell me how Sean Miller still has a job, I’d really like to know.

College basketball coach is getting right up there with used car salesman and Senator

How can it be both though?

How can you believe Dawkins about the Miller stuff then say he is lying about Pitino?

That's why I'm not really sure what to believe.
 
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Pickle_Rick

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Exactly. It was sarcasm. I could literally hear Dawkins eyes rolling as he said it. (See, that was an example of sarcasm) Maybe ease up on the adult beverages before posting.

The Prick knew. The Pope, dying on his bed, could confess to arranging payment to Bowens, and I'd say, "Sorry Pope sir, you're going to hell( maybe I say heck) for lying. Then the guy hits him on the head with the hammer.(that's how they check to see if the Pope is dead. Not sarcasm, thats what they do.)
 
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mgrody

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I honestly don't believe Pitino knew anything about the strippers. Not that he was above such things, but because it was stupid and counter productive and he's not a moron. Players could do better than the ****** McGee lined up without even trying.
 

Kats23

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I’ll never buy it. I think Pitino did exactly that so it looked like he didn’t know. Think about it. Asst coaches are going to risk their career to get money to recruits from a shoe company without their bosses consent? It would be equivalent to the accountant skimming money for the company without the bosses consent. It’s all risk and little reward for the little guy

Pitino may be a sleaze ball but he isn’t stupid
 
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I know Pitino is despised by many UK fans. I surely didn't like it when he took the UL job. I thought it was a bad play on his part knowing he would be coaching UK's most bitter rival. I loved beating UL with Pitino as coach. However, he rescued UK from the abyss. He made us relevant again and did so in a short time. I will always be grateful he was our coach.

I consider myself highly skeptical of those people who deny what the circumstances suggest are undeniable. However, I don't believe Pitino knew about the cheating of his assistants. I don't believe he condoned it. Nevertheless, as the head man, he has organizational responsibility to hire and supervise subordinates and make sure, to the extent he can, they conform their conduct with the rules. He was rightfully fired especially in light of the hooker scandal, which he also should have known about.

At Louisville, Pitino had significant success with lesser quality players than UK. I can't see him willing to risk tarnishing his reputation again after all he went through in the Karen Sypher debacle just to get a player. Pitino is smart enough to know that some time in the future, those persons with knowledge of any wrong doing he perpetrated would inevitably "spill their guts" in a book or for some other self serving reason. I believe Pitino was apocalyptically naive but I don't believe he agreed to pay a player to attend UL.
 
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Susan2361

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I believe Pitino did not know. Now, he still deserves criticism and to have been fired, as he should have been more aware of it all. Count me as one of the few that appreciate what he did for our program, and would gladly have him back one day to pay homage. Fire away.
I agree with you.
 

Dore95

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What happens in certain situations is wrongdoing becomes the norm in an industry or company so some of the people involved, ostensibly law abiding people, end up tolerating or even participating in the wrongdoing. That’s how things like Enron happen.

I doubt Pitino knew his assistants were in on paying players through Adidas. But he certainly knew they had relationships with Adidas backed street agents, runners, AAU coaches etc. He most have known that world is dirty but chose not to ask questions.
 

FrankUnderwood

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I know Pitino is despised by many UK fans. I surely didn't like it when he took the UL job. I thought it was a bad play on his part knowing he would be coaching UK's most bitter rival. I loved beating UL with Pitino as coach. However, he rescued UK from the abyss. He made us relevant again and did so in a short time. I will always be grateful he was our coach.

I consider myself highly skeptical of those people who deny what the circumstances suggest are undeniable. However, I don't believe Pitino knew about the cheating of his assistants. I don't believe he condoned it. Nevertheless, as the head man, he has organizational responsibility to hire and supervise subordinates and make sure, to the extent he can, to conform their conduct with the rules. He was rightfully fired especially in light of the hooker scandal, which he also should have known about.

At Louisville, Pitino had significant success with lesser quality players than UK. I can't see him willing to risk tarnishing his reputation again after all he went through in the Karen Sypher debacle just to get a player. Pitino is smart enough to know that some time in the future, those persons with knowledge of any wrong doing he perpetrated would inevitably "spill their guts" in a book or for some other self serving reason. I believe Pitino was apocalyptically naive but I don't believe he agreed to pay a player to attend UL.



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DelkBowl

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It doesn’t matter if the head coach knows. They closed that loophole.
 

KingOfBBN

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I’m sorry but it’s pretty damn easy to police a basketball roster that’s very small compared to a football team.

He knew. They all know.
 
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Pickle_Rick

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"I was in the bathroom of my favorite restaurant, rubbing one out as one is wont to do, when i heard a commotion. Rushing out, I tripped over my pant's, which were at my ankles, and fell on top of this naked woman on my table. Because I had been beatin' the bishop for at least a hour? Yeah, a good hour, I was real close to finishin' so when it just slipped into her gaping maw... and... yeah... That's the truth! I swear, Joanna!"
 

KyFaninNC

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LOIC was created to stop these guys from having the ability to claim ignorance in the face of incredible scandal. You won’t admit it? Fine. Then you didn’t have control of your program. Case closed.

Today, the money is making it impossible to impose.
Too bad the same standard was not applied to Roy Williams.
 
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I think Pitino and a lot of coaches don’t want to know. They tell their assistants here is the line we don’t cross, but don’t tell me how close we get to that line.

So likely he knew but didn’t know.
 
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Cats_2010

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I have read that Pitino while at KY players said he knew everything that went on with them. They could not get by with anything. So I think he knew what was going on at UL.

When strippergate happened, in his first press conference he stated the same. That he knows everything that goes on with his players at all times. If one has a beer on 4th street he knows it, but 4 years of stripper parties in the players dorms he had no knowledge, yeah ok rick!!!!
 

katwest

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Anytime something happens under a coach's watch he will be held accountable, it's called lack of institutional control. He can say whatever he wants and act like he don't know, but he knows what happens when you are in charge of a program and this kind of thing goes down.
 

Catfanlou_rivals54997

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Chris Dawkins says Rick Pitino did not know what was going on at UL . Didn’t have a clue .

Get ready to write a thirty five million dollar check Vince .

This will cripple UL athletics for years to come .

Wonder if a court could reinstate him for wrongful termination?
 

catman15

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I'd say that's much more than wishful thinking. My buddy Santa will tell you all about it when he gets back from the Easter Bunny's beachfront property in Iowa. In all seriousness I don't think they could sell me on that one