Diallo or Johnson

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Diallo....better overall player and experience is mostly an overrated quality. You want the best players point blank period.

I don't know that we can say Diallo is the better overall player. He is the better overall prospect, meaning in the long term he will be better. But will he be better next year? We don't know. I think it would be close. Johnson is hands down the better shooter, and that is something we are lacking. Diallo is very likely the better defender, which Cal emphasizes.
 

lkc1021

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a lot of people are starting to think it's one or the other. Which one would you prefer and what do they bring to the table that the other doesn't?

Johnson is probably a better shooter right now and Diallo more athletic. Do they both start at the 2G or do they share time there with Knox?
I prefer the one we get.
 

LineSkiCat14

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I'm leaning towards Johnson. Diallo wants out, I think that's clear at this point. I don't want a kid to feel "forced" to be here. It could be bad for both parties.

I'm half kidding when I ask this, but how do we know Diallo will for sure play a full year next season? He sat out this past year, didn't get the feedback he wanted from the NBA.. so now he's going to possibly risk injury and exposure (not the good kind) for a 2nd year? What stops this kid from going off for 30/8/5/3 one night and saying "Yep, that'll do.."?

He has two days left, he's looking for any reason to not play college ball. Go grab Johnson now, and maybe avoid another Bolden scenario..
 

Sparkaces

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I'm leaning towards Johnson. Diallo wants out, I think that's clear at this point. I don't want a kid to feel "forced" to be here. It could be bad for both parties.

I'm half kidding when I ask this, but how do we know Diallo will for sure play a full year next season? He sat out this past year, didn't get the feedback he wanted from the NBA.. so now he's going to possibly risk injury and exposure (not the good kind) for a 2nd year? What stops this kid from going off for 30/8/5/3 one night and saying "Yep, that'll do.."?

He has two days left, he's looking for any reason to not play college ball. Go grab Johnson now, and maybe avoid another Bolden scenario..
I agree with this, it is clear Diallo wants to go and I am not sure in a one year scenario he will be better than Johnson. Obviously he is the better athlete but as many have stated this team needs shooters bad.
 

LineSkiCat14

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I agree with this, it is clear Diallo wants to go and I am not sure in a one year scenario he will be better than Johnson. Obviously he is the better athlete but as many have stated this team needs shooters bad.

You bring up a good point something that I thought of with the Bamba/Richards debate. We forget that we only have these kids for 1 year. It really comes down to which guy can get up to speed quick enough and contribute to the team in just 6-7 months.

Diallo is the better pro-prospect. He's the better talent, but you can't be certain he "gets it" in time for March. And it's similar to Bamba and Richards. I can't say for sure that Diallo and Bamba will give the team more for just a single year. A lot goes into that. Mentality, confidence, patience.
 
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We have room for both of them, why not take both? We have a thin backcourt and have the open scholarship. If Johnson wants to sign now he should.
 

OSOK

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That gives us eleven scholarships. Save two for Zion and Bagley: same number that started the season last year.

Johnson for sure. experience, he is a three year man.
 

Sparkaces

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You bring up a good point something that I thought of with the Bamba/Richards debate. We forget that we only have these kids for 1 year. It really comes down to which guy can get up to speed quick enough and contribute to the team in just 6-7 months.

Diallo is the better pro-prospect. He's the better talent, but you can't be certain he "gets it" in time for March. And it's similar to Bamba and Richards. I can't say for sure that Diallo and Bamba will give the team more for just a single year. A lot goes into that. Mentality, confidence, patience.
Yeah, I think everybody needs to realize that the Bamba and Diallo we see next year will prob not be close to what they are in 5 years, thus we see teams with experienced players beat us every year even though we have superior talent. It would be nice to see Johnson, Wenyen and SKJ start and have some experience in our lineup.
 
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JeffGoodmansVestigialTwin

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I don't know that we can say Diallo is the better overall player. He is the better overall prospect, meaning in the long term he will be better. But will he be better next year? We don't know. I think it would be close. Johnson is hands down the better shooter, and that is something we are lacking. Diallo is very likely the better defender, which Cal emphasizes.

No I agree, maybe I'd just personally prefer the better defensive player and hope he develops a somewhat respectable outside shot. That would open driving lanes for him for sure instead of getting the Briscoe treatment.
 

lennyd250cat

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I would rather have Johnson. Two year player who can stroke the three. However, Johnson is all in on UNC if cleared. That's where he wants to go so I will say Diallo.
 

track42

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I was looking at TJ's twitter and this guy Andrew Carter said he talked to Cam today and he really wants to go to UNC if the one year wait is lifted.WTF?Where did this love for UNC come from.So I guess he might get stuck with UK.It kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
 

bucsrule8872

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I'm good with either one or neither.

I like the team as it is and anyone else is icing on the cake.
 

gracetoyou

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I was looking at TJ's twitter and this guy Andrew Carter said he talked to Cam today and he really wants to go to UNC if the one year wait is lifted.WTF?Where did this love for UNC come from.So I guess he might get stuck with UK.It kind of rubbed me the wrong way.


Roy has made him drunk with the thought that he's going to be the next Justin Jackson at UNC. Same size etc...Johnson is intoxicated with it.
 

ukmelanie

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Diallo.I don't get this obsession Cam has developed for UNC.They weren't on his list,he knew he would have to sit out a season but now it's his top choice before he even visits and he's making a stink about sitting out a year.Something just seems weird about it.I can understand Diallo wanting to make big money for him and his family in the NBA.But Cam wanting the cheaters so bad over UK is just stupid IMO.
 
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Johnson for 2 all day

2019 is the year. Long shot in 2018 even with HD.
 
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wildcatdon

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Most of you all are enamored with Diallo because of the 5 star rating and all of the attention he is getting. He is an unproven entity that can jump very high. He cant shoot and we have no idea what kind of basketball skills he has.

Johnson is a proven commodity who can shoot and is athletic and is a good student and is not looking to jump ship for the NBA as soon as he gets here.
We need to sign Johnson and move on from Diallo and put this behind us.
 

Sparkaces

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Diallo.I don't get this obsession Cam has developed for UNC.They weren't on his list,he knew he would have to sit out a season but now it's his top choice before he even visits and he's making a stink about sitting out a year.Something just seems weird about it.I can understand Diallo wanting to make big money for him and his family in the NBA.But Cam wanting the cheaters so bad over UK is just stupid IMO.
I think he scored 26 on UNC last year so you know that impressed Roy and he is going all in to get him.