DGN 13 Fenwick 10 final

eireog

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Two defensive penalties by Fenwick extended DGN’s last drive. Tough way to lose.
 
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McCaravan

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Great job by Fenwick, I had this a DGN win by a few scores, tough team
 

eireog

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I wasn’t able to catch the game but I heard one of the penalties was questionable, what was the penalty?
Third and 6 and there was a jump ball with a crowd. Fenwick intercepted the ball and returned it to inside the DGN 30. Play was called called back for PI. I couldn’t tell if it was a questionable call or not.

There was a third and long before that play Fenwick knocked the ball down but were flagged for taunting. I did see some smack talk going on.
 
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Btimpone22

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There was no “smack talk.”

The ref said the Fenwick DB pulled the bottom of his jersey and pretended he was brandishing a weapon. Nobody at the game at the time saw this or understood this was the call, or even that this was a call that could be made.

I heard about the call after the game from someone who was on the field.

If anyone here has ever seen a “brandishing a weapon” taunting call made in Illinois high school football, I’d be interested to know. Otherwise, this was an IHSA first. Coaches should take note.

The call bailed out DGN, which would have been punting into a rainy wind to Fenwick, which has an excellent kicker, with 1:30 left.

After the weapon call, Fenwick forced another third down/long and intercepted / returned to 30 as described earlier. This likely would have led to a GW FG.

But the ref called PI and bailed DGN out again. I just watched the NFHS replay- there was no PI.

This all for the record.

Also for the record- life isn’t fair.
 

eireog

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There was no “smack talk.”

The ref said the Fenwick DB pulled the bottom of his jersey and pretended he was brandishing a weapon. Nobody at the game at the time saw this or understood this was the call, or even that this was a call that could be made.

I heard about the call after the game from someone who was on the field.

If anyone here has ever seen a “brandishing a weapon” taunting call made in Illinois high school football, I’d be interested to know. Otherwise, this was an IHSA first. Coaches should take note.

The call bailed out DGN, which would have been punting into a rainy wind to Fenwick, which has an excellent kicker, with 1:30 left.

After the weapon call, Fenwick forced another third down/long and intercepted / returned to 30 as described earlier. This likely would have led to a GW FG.

But the ref called PI and bailed DGN out again. I just watched the NFHS replay- there was no PI.

This all for the record.

Also for the record- life isn’t fair.
I watched the TV feed. It definitely looked like there was something going on after the ball was knocked down by the Fenwick defender. I guess I assumed smack talk because it was a taunting penalty. I’ll take your word on what you heard until I hear different.
 
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barkpm

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Third and 6 and there was a jump ball with a crowd. Fenwick intercepted the ball and returned it to inside the DGN 30. Play was called called back for PI. I couldn’t tell if it was a questionable call or not.

There was a third and long before that play Fenwick knocked the ball down but were flagged for taunting. I did see some smack talk going on.
I thought the PI was questionable. Little more than smack talk. Check out 1:30 seconds of Q4….. NFHS.
 
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barkpm

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There was no “smack talk.”

The ref said the Fenwick DB pulled the bottom of his jersey and pretended he was brandishing a weapon. Nobody at the game at the time saw this or understood this was the call, or even that this was a call that could be made.

I heard about the call after the game from someone who was on the field.

If anyone here has ever seen a “brandishing a weapon” taunting call made in Illinois high school football, I’d be interested to know. Otherwise, this was an IHSA first. Coaches should take note.

The call bailed out DGN, which would have been punting into a rainy wind to Fenwick, which has an excellent kicker, with 1:30 left.

After the weapon call, Fenwick forced another third down/long and intercepted / returned to 30 as described earlier. This likely would have led to a GW FG.

But the ref called PI and bailed DGN out again. I just watched the NFHS replay- there was no PI.

This all for the record.

Also for the record- life isn’t fair.
Might be okay in the City of Chicago, don’t think it will fly in the burbs….
 

eireog

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I thought the PI was questionable. Little more than smack talk. Check out 1:30 seconds of Q4….. NFHS.
Busy watching the MC game. Odds are I’ll be done with watching HS football after watching this. I will be following the thread though.
 

jonathanmoxon4

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There was no “smack talk.”

The ref said the Fenwick DB pulled the bottom of his jersey and pretended he was brandishing a weapon. Nobody at the game at the time saw this or understood this was the call, or even that this was a call that could be made.

I heard about the call after the game from someone who was on the field.

If anyone here has ever seen a “brandishing a weapon” taunting call made in Illinois high school football, I’d be interested to know. Otherwise, this was an IHSA first. Coaches should take note.

The call bailed out DGN, which would have been punting into a rainy wind to Fenwick, which has an excellent kicker, with 1:30 left.

After the weapon call, Fenwick forced another third down/long and intercepted / returned to 30 as described earlier. This likely would have led to a GW FG.

But the ref called PI and bailed DGN out again. I just watched the NFHS replay- there was no PI.

This all for the record.

Also for the record- life isn’t fair.

#2 100% pulled up his jersey as if to show a weapon tucked away.

He did the same celebration early in the game on another incomplete pass on DGN sideline.

There have been plenty of gun-related celebrations going viral in CFB that have apparently made their way down.

Unfortunate, but maybe it’ll help sway the state of HS fb away from tik-tok and instagram culture.
 

Corey90

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There was no “smack talk.”

The ref said the Fenwick DB pulled the bottom of his jersey and pretended he was brandishing a weapon. Nobody at the game at the time saw this or understood this was the call, or even that this was a call that could be made.

I heard about the call after the game from someone who was on the field.

If anyone here has ever seen a “brandishing a weapon” taunting call made in Illinois high school football, I’d be interested to know. Otherwise, this was an IHSA first. Coaches should take note.

The call bailed out DGN, which would have been punting into a rainy wind to Fenwick, which has an excellent kicker, with 1:30 left.

After the weapon call, Fenwick forced another third down/long and intercepted / returned to 30 as described earlier. This likely would have led to a GW FG.

But the ref called PI and bailed DGN out again. I just watched the NFHS replay- there was no PI.

This all for the record.

Also for the record- life isn’t fair.
You sound like a sore loser.
 

Btimpone22

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It’s actually a sincere, legitimate question.

Which player celebrations are ok and which ones aren’t? Does the IHSA release updated rules re what’s legal and what isn’t? Did they ban this one?

Or is supposed to be like obscenity, you “know it when you see it”?
 
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Corey90

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It’s actually a sincere, legitimate question.

Which player celebrations are ok and which ones aren’t? Does the IHSA release updated rules re what’s legal and what isn’t? Did they ban this one?

Or is supposed to be like obscenity, you “know it when you see it”?
I don’t like any celebration because I am old school and know it. That said if it’s a celebration that insinuates brandishing a gun. It’s definitely over the top. Inexcusable. If I were the coach and he was doing that he wouldn’t be on my team. No place in sports period. JMO.
 

Btimpone22

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Agree with you- I don’t like any celebrating (or instagram or tik tok), either. I’m old, too.

But is this the actual rule— you can celebrate, but just no pretending to have a gun?

Or is it just up to the ref, who can decide if he is offended?
 

Corey90

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The only thing that can stop a gun celebration is a good guy gun celebration. Definitely not rules.
Bones
Interesting what would be considered a good gun celebration? I know we’re usually on the same page but I am not understanding what you are saying.
 
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Blacknight36

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Rough day for this officiating crew. Multiple penalties throughout the game that just should not have been called.

At the end, the DPI there was just not enough there to flag it. Direct impact on the outcome of the game. Bummer.

The “gun thing”, I saw it live. It was nothing egregious. Should have just told him to never do it again. Unless perhaps he had already received such warning earlier in the game. ???
 

Catch--22

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Can’t throat slash, right? Can’t shoot a gun, right? I’m guessing brandishing a gun has to follow suit. Is there a specific “no fake weapons celebrations” rule? I doubt it. But calling all of it makes sense.

“If you just show the fake gun in your waistband, you’re legal. If you take out the fake gun and wave it around, it’ll be a warning from the ref. Pointing the fake gun is a 15-yard penalty. If you fake shoot the fake gun, well that’s 15 yards and disqualification.”
 

Cross Bones

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Interesting what would be considered a good gun celebration? I know we’re usually on the same page but I am not understanding what you are saying.
It's what we've been told 🤷🏿‍♂️

I see it's now again okay to blame the refs for losses again. Funny how that works.
 

Corey90

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It's what we've been told 🤷🏿‍♂️

I see it's now again okay to blame the refs for losses again. Funny how that works.
Yeah if you seen my other thread you can tell I don’t like excuses. Doc may have been right and I might of assumed he was blaming the refs so it struck a nerve. I don’t like excuses and I can tell you I have never made excuses for a loss. It happens and it will happen. Nobody knows better that East fans losing to finals to LA.
 

Blackfriars

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Don't fret too much...Fenwick is used to getting jobbed by the zebras in the playoffs.
Unironically does feel like Fenwick has had a lot of last minute crushing losses in the playoffs. Boylan Catholic in 12’, Wheaton North in 13’, getting royally ****** by the refs in 16’, and now this. Fenwick returned it to the 30 yard marker with less than a minute left, well within Sur’s range.
 

SiuCubFan8

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Unironically does feel like Fenwick has had a lot of last minute crushing losses in the playoffs. Boylan Catholic in 12’, Wheaton North in 13’, getting royally ****ed by the refs in 16’, and now this. Fenwick returned it to the 30 yard marker with less than a minute left, well within Sur’s range.
Damn a 47 yard FG is well within his range?
 
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