Devin Miller?
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Was just about to post this. There has been no mention anywhere about him committing. Not even on his twitter.
Anybody?
Anybody?
He played for a horrible team this year and he may have played down to his own team's level. Playing basketball now
Started strong now he is not a factor. Maybe committing so early had an effect on him.Hopefully he solves his issues and has a chance to play somewhere.Good family. Good kids.
Started strong now he is not a factor. Maybe committing so early had an effect on him.Hopefully he solves his issues and has a chance to play somewhere.Good family. Good kids.
I think it's often more complicated than "he changed his mind and decommitted."
Glad things worked out for him.
Don't know anything about him other than I think he held an offer from Rutgers at one time but committed to Houston then de-committed to Houston and now ends up at Marshall.
I happen to think Rutgers is a better school than both Houston and Marshal in many ways (most importantly in quality of education), but I am biased.
I wish any kid good luck.
I happen to think Rutgers is a better school than both Houston and Marshal in many ways (most importantly in quality of education), but I am biased.
I wish any kid good luck.
What made you conclude he was looking for the next best thing?
So many factors go into this. Maybe Houston backed off for some reason. How strong was he Rutgers offer after Ash? Who knows?
I don't think it's safe to assume much in these situations.
Lotta love for local kid who had Rutgers offer and felt other options better suited for him. Certainly he has every right to spurn the State university. There are thousands of kids who got to college every year. Don't quite understand the thread on this particular one.
Sometimes it ends up being a better choice as he might be the bigger fish in the pond. Kind of like when Rutgers gets a player with bigger offers, and sometimes going to the top schools ends up working out. I know a lot of people told Minkah Fitzpatrict not to go to Alabama as he might get lost there with all the other talent.
Drew Mehringer did not recruit tight ends for his offense. Jerry Kill wanted tall tight ends which is how we got the kid from Missouri. Glad to hear he ended up somewhere. I doubt he decommitted from Houston looking for greener pastures I bet it was more than that.
Two sobering thoughts on Marshall ...
http://archive.northjersey.com/spor...o-laud-marshall-plane-crash-victims-1.1665335
- Currently, Marshall is Rutgers equal on the football field -- last season's Sagarin had Rutgers at #156 and Marshall at #160.
- Year 1970, Southern Airways Flight 932; the casualties included Lyndhurst HS's Teddy Shoebridge and Marcelo Lajterman.
http://archive.northjersey.com/spor...o-laud-marshall-plane-crash-victims-1.1665335
And many of the same things happen when you do.
None of us commenting here know what went on with Houston. I kind of doubt anyone knows for sure what happened with RU.
What we do know is he's the 3rd sibling being recruited for football. I'd have to guess he and his family were more than able to determine what was best for the young man. In the end, isn't that what it's all about?
Not sure he has the same negative take (once again) as you. I'm not sure if he had to choose between the two he would have picked RU. To each his own. Smaller conference, but a very passionate football school with quite a few solid seasons since the mid 90s.
Sure--because you know the details of what happened, and the motives of everyone involved, right?? This is just an ignorant comment.
He picked a school in April that he thought was the perfect fit based on the city, school, their use of the TE, and the lack of bodies in the TE room. Unfortunately, they got a TE bailing from Baylor in late July (with 3 years in a college S&C program)--after Devin and one other local TE committed which led to them asking him to gray shirt. (Of course, they couldn't ask the same from the local guy from the big HS that they needed a lasting relationship with. Tough lesson learned.) He passed on that option (we took the hint), but since he was loyal to his commitment, he had extremely limited contact with other schools interested in him. So by the time he had this talk with Houston, and decommitted at then end of July, several spots were filled (at a position where most schools only take one guy per class), as the other schools had moved on.
He had a few options remaining, but wanted to wait for a couple official visits before making a decision again. And, RU seemed less interested (ex: no written offer sent in August). Fast forward, and you have 4 coaching changes that affected his options greatly (ex: He didn't hear from one new staff at all at a school he had a written offer from. Turns out, the new coach got the commit from his previous school to follow him to the new school.) As time passed, it looked like RU was close to offering, but ultimately fell into the group with coaching changes (i.e. Coach Kill as new OC) resulting in them "going a different direction," which seemed to be code for them taking 6-5/6-6 TEs only.
This said, as a family, we feel extremely blessed that Marshall became an option very late in the game. I've told close friends that I can genuinely say that it is an option he would have been extremely pleased with under any condition, regardless of how late it developed.
In the end, we learned a few more valuable lessons. Here's one: don't believe much when it comes to coaches and recruiting--they all talk about "character" but very few finish the process exhibiting much on their end. Specifically, after months of talking, you'd be shocked (or, maybe not) by the number of coaches that don't have the decency to tell you they are "moving on." Most kids would rather hear the truth--that perhaps you aren't the top guy or they found someone better. Instead, you get radio silence in the form of unanswered calls, texts, emails, etc. once they get to the point where they realize you can't do anything for them.
With that in mind, my philosophy has changed in regard to what I will be advising players and parents to do. I'm now in the group that will tell a kid to commit early in the process, and don't hesitate to change your mind every time you get an offer you perceive as a "better" one--whatever that might mean to them. Because coaches will sure as hell be doing the same.
Clearly, it's been a frustrating process. I'm writing partially to vent/get things off my chest, and also because I know some have been genuinely curious about what happened. In the end, we couldn't be happier as a family with the outcome and truly feel it resulted in a "meant to be" situation, and we also couldn't be prouder of Devin. We hold no resentment towards RU, and they are NOT in the majority group of coaches I was referencing above. Coach Okruch was always straight forward and always stayed in touch. We can't wait to watch Dorian's final season while Devin gets bigger and stronger while most likely redshirting--creating no viewing conflicts for the Millers.
#3for3
I am glad you are happy. And I am glad you don't hold anything against Rutgers. Reading your long response, it does not appear Rutgers did anything wrong so I am not sure why you would even suggest you hold anything against Rutgers. You also say Marshall was a better choice in the end. So what's the problem? Good luck.
Not to put words in their mouth but it sounds like the problem is the system and how dishonest everyone within it is.
Thank you sir for your response. I am glad as this also helps squash all the alternative facts presented by people here who think they have a clue. I wish the best for your son, sounds like the family has their act together, its just a tough system, and it gets tougher at each leve,.
Houston doesn't come out looking good. Grants offer, offer accepted, gets transfer player from another school, then requests prospect "gray shirt" to clear room for the transfer, which basically means the prospect has to pay his own way the first year.
Now Tom Hermann off to Texas.
Now Tom Hermann off to Texas.
I don't see where I said it was the better choice, only that he still may might have chosen Marshall over RU because of how much he liked them. Either way, he didn't have a choice to make since RU never offered.
On that note, I mentioned having no "resentment" towards RU. This was mainly to cut off any assumptions by others (before they could make them) who thought there might be any since RU had offered and then didn't formally offer in the end.
So, no problem.
I think Marshall is a very good school. Of course, I always have pride in Rutgers because I graduated from Rutgers. And so always hope Rutgers is the first choice. Articles from last year suggested Rutgers had extended an offer before the decision was made to go to Houston. I guess those articles were incorrect (not the first time the press got it wrong). I wish you the very best luck. And I am sorry you had to experience this process and that some people may have been disingenuous.
(Agreeing with you.) Isn't it amazing that people are so ill-informed? Amazing that people can come on this site and not at least absorb a bit about how the recruiting game works.
Also, I don't get how people who have ZERO direct experience in recruiting can opine about how a kid should handle his recruitment - especially in this case where the family has successfully navigated this three times.
I guess it's more fun to shoe horn every story into the narrative about "yet another kid who spurned Rutgers for greener pastures and got burned".
Thank you for taking the time to provide a clear & comprehensive review of the process. You provided first hand perspective that paints a realistic view of the process - and that reality is quite different from what many may imagine the process to be.
That he was so comfortable with Marshall may be the most important factor of all.... probably the best advice I have ever heard from several coaches regarding school selection has been "Imagine for just a moment if you could no longer participate in your chosen sport - would this be the school for you? if you can say 'yes' - then you have made a good choice"
Ill informed? I won't link, but there is an article on NJ Com from Todderick Hunt on April 13 2016 that says he picked Houston over an offer from Rutgers. Exact words.
Now we are told he never had a firm offer from Rutgers.
Okay.
I don't know Todderick Hunt or what kind of reporter he is. Apparently Todderick Hunt got his facts wrong.
Now we are told he never had a firm offer from Rutgers.
Okay.
I don't know Todderick Hunt or what kind of reporter he is. Apparently Todderick Hunt got his facts wrong.
Which is why I don't blame kids from committing to hold a spot and then decommitting later. The way the system is set up it basically forces them to do that to protect their own interests.
Good luck to Devin!!! You should rightfully be proud of all 3 of your sons. Don't listen to ash catch em he loves picking on high school and college age kids