Not even close to the same thing. What OP went through was way worse. Just don’t understand why people stink their nose is other peoples business unnecessarily.
Detained by cops last night (False accusations)
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No. The “witness” was unreasonable and is an *******. I’m not saying he should be crucified, but I, like others, hate him for what he did. Complete BS.
Up until I was in the final selection for a gang member who was charged with 2 separate murders 10 days apart and unrelated, I felt pretty good about even GOOD people respecting the law and generally doing the right thing. This was roughly 17 years ago.
I made the comment on my jury questionnaire that I am biased against a known gang member and with a known criminal history. (This of course got me dismissed.)
But what blew my mind, in my same pool of folks, was a husband and wife who had different last names who talked their way onto the jury to make sure he was found guilty. I was just stunned how they were both selected and 1 of them was a “community organizer”. They were jury professionals if you will. Had done 15-20 trials.
Here’s a significant case and the system was rigged somehow. And the guy was totally guilty as hell. But from the get go, people who weren’t even involved set the result.
OMG….. his brother tried to kill cops in 2015, shocker!!
Obviously I wasn’t there and only have the OP’s description to go on, but again if he sincerely believed it was the OP, I absolutely get his anger but in that scenario the witness did the right thing. If he was just making it up or singled the OP out for other reasons, then that’s BS, but his initial description doesn’t suggest that.
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If you committed a crime, then it might be because somebody wants people who committed a crime to be caught.
I am not OP, and I think this just needs to happen to you before you will appreciate it. This witness was sure it was him, only to be wrong. You don’t have any problem with that? I could understand better if he said I think it was him.
It’s astonishing how many false/mistaken eye witness accounts have put people away. Sometimes for life. Prosecutors are all about “winning” and justice is far down the list of their priorities. Sorry for you and glad it didn’t turn out worse.
Appreciate the fact you got to go home on your terms. Things could have turned out a whole lot worse.
People are dumbasses, and the cops know this. If you're trying to convince the cops that you didn't assault someone, think for a second...would it be better to flip out, start cussing, and acting erratic, or would it be better to remain calm because you know you didn't do it?
Oh I don’t disagree with you about this. I was just talking about the witness and the idea no one should be upset with him.
Sorry bro. You deserved better in that situation and at the same time I’m very thankful it wasn’t worse. Keep your head up and don’t worry about the cussing. Be proud of yourself for standing up for what was right. Eye witness is a goober. Eff him.
who said it was? you are showing your bias there a bit. apologize to the op.
Dude...you got personally picked out by an eye witness. Its NOT the cops fault. Of course they were going to stop you. Hell... you would do the same thing. Be pissed of at the witness...!
Ewwwww….Burns me up Fella. Hope you are able to at least file a complaint. Something on file to remind those rectum hats they made a mistake. Good luck!
Unfortunately statistics show that its more likely to happen to you bc of the color of your skin, but I agree that the cops did their job correctly in this instance. I’ve always said the vast majority are good ones.
I’ve had multiple incidents over the years where I wonder if the office would’ve reacted differently if I didn’t have brown skin. It’s unfortunate.
glad you’re ok, OP.
I’ve had multiple incidents over the years where I wonder if the office would’ve reacted differently if I didn’t have brown skin. It’s unfortunate.
glad you’re ok, OP.
This. The amount of dependency our Justice system has on eye witnesses and human memory is kind of crazy, especially when you consider that some testimony from eye witnesses come well after the event occurred. but I reckon there’s not much can be done about it.
My Cousin Vinny actually does a fantastic job of illustrating this.
Sorry you had to go through that OP.
While we’re sharing stories, I was almost kicked out of school about a week after I arrived on campus. Some frat guys said they “witnessed” me key an RA’s car. Turns out one of them keyed the car himself and had his buddies lie about it because his girlfriend was interested in me (and vice versa TBH).
But I was on my way out after meeting with the University Police until she convinced him/them to recant. I was 18 at the time, with no idea of what was happening or how close I came to having my life screwed up over petty jealousy.
While we’re sharing stories, I was almost kicked out of school about a week after I arrived on campus. Some frat guys said they “witnessed” me key an RA’s car. Turns out one of them keyed the car himself and had his buddies lie about it because his girlfriend was interested in me (and vice versa TBH).
But I was on my way out after meeting with the University Police until she convinced him/them to recant. I was 18 at the time, with no idea of what was happening or how close I came to having my life screwed up over petty jealousy.
People can accuse someone of doing something whether it is in real life or on social media and many jump at the chance to point the finger and convict!!! This **** has to be reeled in!!! I'm a white guy, but not only am I worried about everything I say, but also where I go. Crime is just bad in general almost everywhere, and yes, some racial and ethnic bias is going on. I could be accused myself as a white guy as well just because I'm not in a certain social, cultural, or ethnic group. Even in the social media this country is divided by those lines. Now, we almost exclusively have social medial platforms for those on the right (conservatives), and those on the left (liberals). And we see that many don't want to have any shared platforms. Just look at the backlash for a libertarian like Elon Musk trying to acquire Twitter to reform it back to a social media platform for all. We are now almost defined more by the WOKE standing and our political views than we are by our race. I would imagine it might be well said just to say get used to it, because it ain't getting better!!!
Wait what? You heard the husband and wife say”we’re gonna find this guy guilty”? Or that “we protect our community against obvious convicts”?
Can‘t understand this perspective for the life of me. You belong to the safest, most secure demographic in America. Don’t do or say stupid things and you’ll be fine.
White guy also.
JMO, but you'd have to figure out their intent. They were going out of their way to help someone, or they may have been trying to cover for someone else. Without knowing their intention, it's impossible to judge.
That sounds like a terrible sequence of events. But I have to say it went better than I would have thought if you blew up like that in front of the cops. ( but I sure don’t fault you for that)
They did not directly say it that way. It was just some of the comments made as we were waiting to be questioned.
But, they were making sure they got on the jury.
Let’s put it this way. When the defense attys had open Q/A with the jury pool based on their questionnaire(400 questions I kid you not), I wondered if they would ever find or question me on my response (all hand written). We had filled them out 2-3 weeks prior and they brought us in 14 jurors at a time with a total pool of 200+.
The question was something like: “Does it matter to you that the defendant is a member of a gang”?
I said, “ I believe that a person who claims to be and is a gang member will have a higher probability to commit a crime. This is based on statistical facts.”
(I didn’t even express prejudice just factual honesty.)
Me and a pacifist who said she could not sentence the defendant to death if found guilty were the ONLY 2 people questioned on our responses and the only 2 dismissed. Completely unbelievable if you are answering those questions honestly that you wouldn’t be questioned or dismissed as well.
What I’m saying….. people talk their way onto juries. Both of them made the jury. 1 on and the other alternate.
Dam man.
Everytime you get approach questioned by an officer of the law
Regardless of color sex age or stupidity
You have to yes sir no sir yes ma'am no ma'am how high you want me to jump attitude.
That west Philly atti is what gets you in trouble-
Not skin color.
Smart White people get on their hands and knees and begs for forgiveness.
And does whatever the cops ask or answers whatever the question is.
Total respect
They are just doing their jobs.
If you are innocent you will be freed eventuallyand the nicer you are the quicker you can go home.
Sorry…I have corrected the message. No I don’t have a problem with it if he sincerely believed it was the OP. As many have stated, eyewitness testimony is largely inaccurate but in that scenario, sounds like it went as it should have.
That being the case, I would leave it alone. It sounds like the witness probably has a better case against you then you do against him. Generally, threating someone for making a mistake is frowned upon.
Did you at least make the sects with her? How was it? Please be vivid
Couldn’t close the deal, but it was probably a condition my parole.
At least, that’s what I told myself.
I am truly and deeply sorry, Sir.
Sincerely
Actually, I am horrified.
But this is the Society we have allowed to evolve.
I will include prayers for you and your family and .....all 'involved'.......on this the anniversary of the Deepest Darkest day in History.
I will do so again Tomorrow, when we remember & exclaim "He is Risen!"
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