DeRunnya...

57stratdawg

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Is really frustrating to watch these days. He looks like he's just going through the motions to me.

He drops more than his fair share of passes, his fumble last night was brutal, he ran a stop-go last night that was incredibly poorly ran, and, remember, it was him walking to his spot against LSU that really put us behind the play clock on that delay of game.

Sorry. That's just what I see.
 

BossDawg78

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To me it looks like the entire offense is going through the motions. There's no intensity or aggression.
 

bear#1uncle

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Is really frustrating to watch these days. He looks like he's just going through the motions to me.

He drops more than his fair share of passes, his fumble last night was brutal, he ran a stop-go last night that was incredibly poorly ran, and, remember, it was him walking to his spot against LSU that really put us behind the play clock on that delay of game.

Sorry. That's just what I see.

From what I see bear is getting frustrated...
 

121Josey

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To me it looks like the entire offense is going through the motions. There's no intensity or aggression.

The offense is Jekyll and Hyde. When it knows it can move the ball, they play fast, hard and run to their spots. When they are conservative (scared), they look like they've got concrete feet.

State should take the ball first every time. State is terrible when playing from behind. With Merlin, the game is pretty much determined by the end of the 1st QTR.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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A play or two before the delay of game vs LSU, he also took his time getting up (ball thru the legs move) and getting the ball back to the ref (gave it to the side judge instead of umpire). All while the clock was counting down. No urgency.

He is easily our best playmaker. He has the chance to be great. But great players play with urgency when it counts.
 

CoastDawg18

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I agree. Something isn't right. From the outside looking in he seems to have a "I could care less" look and demeanor every time they show him on tv. He is not happy with something it seems. Play calling, his role, his position coach, or something along these lines. He makes some good plays and blocks but doesn't seem to go all out every play. I think he is costing himself some future money unfortunately.
 

thatsbaseball

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Would you be excited about being part of our offense right now ? We`ve lost our identity and our mojo on offense and Dan seems to be in the midst of one of his patented lengthy "head up his ***" streaks. We need some fires reignited.....somebody got to step up.
 

TheStateUofMS

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I'd say we lived up to our identity last night we just fumbled the ball away. TDs on the drives where Williams fumbles at the 5 and Bear fumbles after the long 3rd down play and that's 14 points right there. It's so frustrating. I know the offense hasn't put up the points we want, but when you fumble the ball at critical times on the road, it's going to make the offense look a lot worse.

We passed for over 200 and almost ran for 200. We had enough offense last night. Two fumbles and a dropped pick by Coman. Guys just didn't make a play. Also, Ben Brown's missed sack on the 4th and 1 TD pass on their first drive. The film is going to make our players sick.
 

DawgatAuburn

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A play or two before the delay of game vs LSU, he also took his time getting up (ball thru the legs move) and getting the ball back to the ref (gave it to the side judge instead of umpire). All while the clock was counting down. No urgency.

He is easily our best playmaker. He has the chance to be great. But great players play with urgency when it counts.

It was also not a first down and where we should have used our timeout.
 

TheStateUofMS

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I guess you didn't read entire post...

If scoring 18 pts per game in SEC games is now our identity....I rest my case.


Fumbling twice (once going into the EZ) and dropping an easy pick near mid field...that's 3 possessions we gave up where one almost certainly was going to result in a TD. So, no fumble and get a TD we're at a minimum 30-24. Maybe with good field possession on the dropped INT by Coman or the fumble by Bear near mid field I'm crazy we have a chance to get one of them in the EZ. Also, Dak over threw a wide open Myles. We played well enough to win. We just can't give the other team the ball and not take it from the other team when they try and give it to us.

If you don't think passing for 200 and running for 200 isn't a recipe for success on offense for us I can't help you. That's what it was last year. We did that tonight. We just made some awful errors.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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True.

Should've called TO. Also, our "tempo" offense should have no problem running a hurry-up, and should understand the basic idea that if you're tackled in bounds, stand up, throw the ball to the ref at the hashmark, and hustle to your spot. To me, that's another coaching failure.

But that doesn't relieve the player of any responsibility for not playing with urgency at that point of the game. That's just a basic understanding of the game. Again - great player, our best playmaker. But we need more urgency, and we especially needed it at that point in that game.
 

RiverCityDawg

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We have to figure out a way to get him more involved. We can't just say "oh shoot their playing zone, I guess we can't throw it to Bear". I know some is on him to find soft spots in zone coverage, but he's our best playmaker and we have to get him more touches.
 

thatsbaseball

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We averaged 533 yards and 40 pts on offense in our first three SEC games last year. This year 391 yards and 18 pts. "That`s what it was last year" ? I think not. AND 400 yards total offense against aTm at their place is not going to be a "recipe for success" for anyone this year.
 
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Pookieray

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I haven't seen mentioned a wide open Myles over thrown by 10 yards and a sure score mentioned. Make that play and the other ones mentioned and it's a dang good opportunity for a win.
We can ***** about the oline but the opportunity was there. Defense was there, once again fumbles put us in a bad situation. Fumbles are correctable, still over throwing the deep ball is not at this point. This is what he worked on all summer and it's his Achilles heal.
 

bear#1uncle

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At himself for dropping passes and not running crisp routes each time?
Not saying he or anyone should be perfect on the field, but what is the frustration from?
I don't know what games you've been watching but it's either the play calling or just dak looking him off...everybody wanna git on bear for the fumble but dak is missing wide open players....Myles for the td.....shump twice...if he puts the ball on the money different outcome....Yea he's frustrated cause he's been working hard this past summer & from what I see dak is looking him off I saw this a few times sat and against lsu where he looked bear off when he was wide open....he didn't lose the game....check the qb
 

ShrubDog

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There is no excuse for not targeting him more. We never even throw it to him on the quick screen.
 

TwelvePackSmack

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I don't think he is that good. Good size, yes. Good blocker, i guess. He never uses his hands to catch the ball, and he couldn't beat a linebacker on a go route. Have you ever seen him go above someone and catch the ball with his hands?? No. Fred Ross is twice the receiver he is.
 

rugbdawg

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I'm with you. Seems like every pass he catches is bobbled. He catches the ball

with his body...not his hands. It has become a habit that has become a problem. He used to just do it every now and then. Now, he does it all the time.
 

bear#1uncle

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I don't think he is that good. Good size, yes. Good blocker, i guess. He never uses his hands to catch the ball, and he couldn't beat a linebacker on a go route. Have you ever seen him go above someone and catch the ball with his hands?? No. Fred Ross is twice the receiver he is.

Who are you watching too!!!!
 

notoriousD_O_G

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Have you ever seen him go above someone and catch the ball with his hands??

The eggbowl last year for a TD comes to mind instantly. He always goes and gets the ball. He is not a volume receiver. He is at his best in the redzone and down the sideline. Those routes just aren't open as often as someone in the slot. Saying bear doesnt go grab the ball is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

I mean damn just last week he fought like hell to get his hands in front of the Auburn corner for a TD. What do yall want from him??
 
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kired

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Another case of our fans over hyping one of our players. Bear will go down as one of our best WRs ever. But people act like he's supposed to be the next Julio Jones... he's not.

He's got almost 200 yards and 2 TDs in 3 SEC games, but I guess he's supposed to do more.
 

ShrubDog

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Was it Fred Ross who could not catch a punt last year? I cannot remember.

Good blocker you guess? Get the weed crumbs out of your eyes.
 
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"Doesn't catch with his hands" "Doesn't go up and get the ball" Hi-larious. He hasn't been perfect by any stretch. But you guys know DeRunnya is the tall one with the dreadlocks right? Yeesh. Not sure what game you were watching.
 

rugbdawg

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Hold on now. He is still our best receiver and has elite NFL blocking skills.

He uses his body very, very well. He will be an average NFL receiver due to his lack of route running skills, speed, and so-so hands. He is still very good. He simply isn't dominant like we expected him to be. He was more effective the latter half of last year.

Maybe it's a case of Dak not throwing it where it needs to be. He didn't use to have a case of the bobbles and the drops. But, especially on the slants, he allows the ball to hit his body.
 

DancingRabbit

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Never uses his hands to catch? That's absolutely false.

Does he catch some with his body? Sure if it's right in his gut.

Plenty of hand catches in these 2 videos I just googled up.









I don't think he is that good. Good size, yes. Good blocker, i guess. He never uses his hands to catch the ball, and he couldn't beat a linebacker on a go route. Have you ever seen him go above someone and catch the ball with his hands?? No. Fred Ross is twice the receiver he is.
 

ShrubDog

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What does that even mean in this discussion? So is the butt, don't think we want to have butt catching drills.

Rug said he catches the ball with his body not his hands.

If you have not noticed I rarely if ever use ***
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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I don't know what games you've been watching but it's either the play calling or just dak looking him off...everybody wanna git on bear for the fumble but dak is missing wide open players....Myles for the td.....shump twice...if he puts the ball on the money different outcome....Yea he's frustrated cause he's been working hard this past summer & from what I see dak is looking him off I saw this a few times sat and against lsu where he looked bear off when he was wide open....he didn't lose the game....check the qb

I tend to agree. Dak is missing wide open receivers and isn't too accurate with many of his throws. Ross made some fantastic catches against A&M. But I agree Dak needs to throw it to Wilson more because he is a great receiver.
 

Shamoan

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Bear is a boss, but in our offense, we have several playmakers at wr (bear, ross, formerly myles, among others) and when you stubbornly run the ball and get zilch, it takes away touches from productive players. i can see why bear is getting frustrated, but, the best way for him to make his point is to finish plays, not fumble or drop the ball. bottom line, we need to feed him more, but he needs to do his part.
 

paindonthurt_

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There is still no excuse for not hustling to the line or running crisp routes. None. Frustration or not.
 
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