Derek Anderson is right

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bbnkat02

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I used to have the schedule with final scores printed out from that season. This was before I could go google it like now. Lol.
It was a crazy number of games that we topped 100 points. I think we hit 110 plus in at least 3 games.
I do remember outside of losing the SEC championship game to Miss St, we beat every SEC team except one by double digits including that Miss St. team.
Tubby Smith coached Georgia played us under 10 at least once maybe twice.five
We beat UGa by five once that year. Just shows how different conference games are. Everyone that is any decent has your number. And will play you hard.

That SEC championship game ticks me off. It was the day before our Youth Sunday and we had the radio playing in the sanctuary as we practiced. Was not a fun afternoon. We were one a 27 game winning streak and just choked that game away. That hot shooting team couldn’t find the Gulf that afternoon. All I can remember Cawood saying was UK taking another shot and off the front of the iron. It was like Tuesday’s game in a way. Just couldn’t make a basket.
 
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Cowtown Cat

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I think there is an element of bitterness to it. It’s no secret that DA has wanted to join our staff in the past …but to no avail. Cal wants his guys, not former Pitino guys.

The tweet is true, but not the smartest thing to do if you’re looking to get in with the current staff.
Remind me again who’s causing the divide?
 

Cowtown Cat

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We beat UGa by once that year. Just shows how different conference games are. Everyone that is any decent has your number. And will paly you hard.

That SEC championship game ticks me off. It was the day before our Youth Sunday game and we had the radio playing in the sanctuary as we practiced. Was not a fun afternoon.
Still think Pitino threw that game.
 

Wildcats1st

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22 have like 1 NBA player starting on our team.

96 team had NBA player coming off the bench.

and the none NBA players were Grady's level or higher....
You mean the guys Pitino developed? I mean he made those players Pitino is probably the greatest at player development. It’s not like this roster lacks talent.
 

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Completely different era of basketabll. That 96 team was amazing, but that was a different time. Talent level outside of P5 schools was nonexistent, AAU ball didn’t exist, just really another world. So if you were serious about basketball you went to a P5 school. Now that doesn’t happen. Players go just about anywhere. So Talent level on these big name school rosters was stout. When you watched a P5 game, it was entertaining. Now talent is widely spread out. High value players sometimes skip college altogether. We can all ***** and moan about it but those days of college ball aren’t ever coming back and not a thing we can do about it.

I love DA, and he’s not completely wrong here, but he’s not completely right either.

UK shot 58% for the night. And 43% from the arc. When’s the last time you can recall any team shooting that high of a percentage for a game? We couldn’t miss.

LSU also scored 97 points. 55 points in the second half. Heck we scored another 40. Nobody played defense after halftime. Fun game. But just a different time.

I certainly don’t think Cal watches much YouTube.
Umass was no P5 team. That’s right off the top of my head. It wasn’t as disimilar as you think.
 

Montana81

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96 had a senior two guard, a junior point guard, a senior power forward a senior center and a sophomore small forward. If the 2015 team would have stayed together for two or three years they may have been as good. People seem to forget that players used to stay in school and get much better than they are now. I know we're not going back to that but the games changed mainly by that. Ron Mercer barely got off the bench in 96. DA was coming off the bench. That is a really good team.

Mercer started 13 games and play nearly 20 minutes a game on a team where no one played more than 27. I wouldn’t call that barely getting off the bench. he scored 20 in 24 minutes in the national title game. DA started 24 games.

I definitely agree it was the better team. no need to exaggerate details to validate their greatness.
 

bbnkat02

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Still think Pitino threw that game.
Nah. We just couldn’t find the ocean. Shot 33 percent from the field. Miss St shot like 50%. That sends you home. So unless guys like Delk and Walker were purposefully missing shots, we just gonad a clunker. Like every great team does.

Delk was 5/19 that game. Walker was 4/13. Yikes.
 

bbnkat02

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Then the next season we sat at home after losing to robert Morris while pitino won the titles. Whores or not
Cheated to win a title. If Cal’s FF at UMass and Memphis don’t count (when he was cleared) Pitino’s title at UofL (where he KNEW) definitely doesn’t.
 

bbnkat02

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Who the hell did we beat in the 1996 Ff???
UMass. But that game was vacated. It’s why technically only Rick is the only coach to take theee schools to a FF. Even though minus the vacated games, Cal did it too.
 

Cowtown Cat

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Nah. We just couldn’t find the ocean. Shot 33 percent from the field. Miss St shot like 50%. That sends you home. So unless guys like Delk and Walker were purposefully missing shots, we just gonad a clunker. Like every great team does.

Delk was 5/19 that game. Walker was 4/13. Yikes.
Yeah but there was more to that game than we shot poorly. IIRC, Pitino had some questionable coaching moves that were head scratchers.
 
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TortElvisII

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Mercer started 13 games and play nearly 20 minutes a game on a team where no one played more than 27. I wouldn’t call that barely getting off the bench. he scored 20 in 24 minutes in the national title game. DA started 24 games.

I definitely agree it was the better team. no need to exaggerate details to validate their greatness.

PlayerGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1Tony Delk363626.36.412.9.4943.87.1.5352.65.8.4432.43.1.8004.21.81.90.41.82.017.8
2Antoine Walker363527.06.313.7.4636.112.3.4930.31.3.1882.33.6.6318.42.91.70.72.52.415.2
3Walter McCarty363224.74.27.8.5433.46.1.5640.81.7.4672.12.9.7215.72.61.21.42.33.311.3
4Derek Anderson362419.43.36.4.5092.64.8.5500.61.6.3902.22.8.7843.42.41.70.21.42.39.4
5Ron Mercer361318.83.06.5.4572.34.6.5060.61.9.3381.41.8.7852.91.40.90.21.01.48.0
6Mark Pope36620.32.65.4.4822.24.2.5200.41.3.3562.02.9.6835.21.01.01.21.42.87.6
7Anthony Epps362422.51.94.5.4290.81.6.4661.22.9.4101.62.0.8173.14.91.50.11.51.16.7
8Jeff Sheppard34112.81.93.7.5201.32.4.5310.61.3.5001.11.7.6212.11.90.50.11.65.5
9Wayne Turner35813.11.93.5.5331.83.4.5420.00.1.2500.71.1.6251.51.61.10.11.11.54.5
10Jared Prickett5010.21.22.4.5001.22.2.5450.00.2.0001.01.4.7141.60.60.20.41.41.23.4
11Allen Edwards3519.31.12.3.4630.91.6.5260.20.7.3041.01.3.7391.11.20.40.10.70.83.3
12Nazr Mohammed1605.50.81.8.4480.81.8.4480.00.00.71.5.4581.50.20.30.51.11.12.3
13Oliver Simmons2104.80.61.3.4810.61.2.4620.00.01.0000.50.9.5561.10.10.10.21.01.8
14Cameron Mills702.30.30.7.4000.30.6.5000.00.1


Both Anderson and Mercer averaged under half a game. Yeah I guess I got carried away with the barely played. Everybody played under Pitino.

For some reason minutes played is in the wrong column.


Looks like DA and Mercer started instead of Pope.
 

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People are on here downplaying the talent/experience that Calipari had on the 96 UMass team. Marcus Camby was basically Anthony Davis in college. The National player of the year. Donta Bright was really good. Padilla/Travieso was a great veteran guard combo.

Stop acting like Cal had a bunch of stiffs in the final 4 for UMass. He still needed an absolute stud way back then to be successful.
 

Montana81

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We beat UGa by five once that year. Just shows how different conference games are. Everyone that is any decent has your number. And will play you hard.

That SEC championship game ticks me off. It was the day before our Youth Sunday and we had the radio playing in the sanctuary as we practiced. Was not a fun afternoon. We were one a 27 game winning streak and just choked that game away. That hot shooting team couldn’t find the Gulf that afternoon. All I can remember Cawood saying was UK taking another shot and off the front of the iron. It was like Tuesday’s game in a way. Just couldn’t make a basket.

Mississippi State played out of their minds as well. they hit some ridiculous stuff. it was just their day. Pitino inexplicably benched antoine walker as well. And said after the game (paraphrasing) “i wanted them to see how much they needed each other”. So yeah im pretty sure at a certain point he decided to throw it so they’d go into the tourney pissed
 

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I think there is an element of bitterness to it. It’s no secret that DA has wanted to join our staff in the past …but to no avail. Cal wants his guys, not former Pitino guys.

The tweet is true, but not the wisest thing to do if you’re looking to get in with the current staff.
If Cal was smart he’d hire DA! The guy knows his stuff! Literally still lives and breathes basketball.
 

Cowtown Cat

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Mercer started 13 games and play nearly 20 minutes a game on a team where no one played more than 27. I wouldn’t call that barely getting off the bench. he scored 20 in 24 minutes in the national title game. DA started 24 games.

I definitely agree it was the better team. no need to exaggerate details to validate their greatness.
Surprisingly, there were many different starting fives that year that I didn’t totally remember. Hell, Turner and Pope started some games that season as well. Didn’t remember that until I watched some highlights.
 

bbnkat02

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Mississippi State played out of their minds as well. they hit some ridiculous stuff. it was just their day. Pitino inexplicably benched antoine walker as well. And said after the game (paraphrasing) “i wanted them to see how much they needed each other”. So yeah im pretty sure at a certain point he decided to throw it so they’d go into the tourney pissed
Tbf Walker played like *** that game. 4/13. I’d have benched him too.
 
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bbnkat02

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Cal first fans are the most sensitive group of people next to the transgenders. A former UK great makes an innocuous comment that applies to most of college basketball and they take it as a slight towards Cal.
Again, tbf I don’t believe in coincidences. He posts that after we lost two starters in a top 25 road game. If he didn’t mean it as a poke at Cal it sure looks that way.

And also again. I’m not saying he’s completely wrong but comparing games 27 years apart is pushing it. So much has changed.

Also on a side note, you’re a soiid poster, does every post you do HAVE to be a shot at modern society and politics?
 

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If Cal was smart he’d hire DA! The guy knows his stuff! Literally still lives and breathes basketball.
Ain’t gonna happen. Cal’s never shown any interest in bringing a former UK player aboard his staff (well, except for Brad, who I don’t really count). And, if he ever does, it will be one that played for him, not Pitino.
 
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Montana81

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PlayerGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1Tony Delk363626.36.412.9.4943.87.1.5352.65.8.4432.43.1.8004.21.81.90.41.82.017.8
2Antoine Walker363527.06.313.7.4636.112.3.4930.31.3.1882.33.6.6318.42.91.70.72.52.415.2
3Walter McCarty363224.74.27.8.5433.46.1.5640.81.7.4672.12.9.7215.72.61.21.42.33.311.3
4Derek Anderson362419.43.36.4.5092.64.8.5500.61.6.3902.22.8.7843.42.41.70.21.42.39.4
5Ron Mercer361318.83.06.5.4572.34.6.5060.61.9.3381.41.8.7852.91.40.90.21.01.48.0
6Mark Pope36620.32.65.4.4822.24.2.5200.41.3.3562.02.9.6835.21.01.01.21.42.87.6
7Anthony Epps362422.51.94.5.4290.81.6.4661.22.9.4101.62.0.8173.14.91.50.11.51.16.7
8Jeff Sheppard34112.81.93.7.5201.32.4.5310.61.3.5001.11.7.6212.11.90.50.11.65.5
9Wayne Turner35813.11.93.5.5331.83.4.5420.00.1.2500.71.1.6251.51.61.10.11.11.54.5
10Jared Prickett5010.21.22.4.5001.22.2.5450.00.2.0001.01.4.7141.60.60.20.41.41.23.4
11Allen Edwards3519.31.12.3.4630.91.6.5260.20.7.3041.01.3.7391.11.20.40.10.70.83.3
12Nazr Mohammed1605.50.81.8.4480.81.8.4480.00.00.71.5.4581.50.20.30.51.11.12.3
13Oliver Simmons2104.80.61.3.4810.61.2.4620.00.01.0000.50.9.5561.10.10.10.21.01.8
14Cameron Mills702.30.30.7.4000.30.6.5000.00.1


Both Anderson and Mercer averaged under half a game. Yeah I guess I got carried away with the barely played. Everybody played under Pitino.

For some reason minutes played is in the wrong column.

ahh i see. yeah i just looked on sports reference. my only point was just i don’t know if they’d stomp the 2015 team. clearly better but that 2015 team was a bear to deal with because of their unheard of size for a college team. i think it’s the tallest college team in history on average height and average height of the starting lineup.

it wasn’t just the post players either. 2 6’5 starting guards is tough for other teams to handle and the twins were very solid defensively as sophomores and we had the dpoy.

i think it would be close because of the size and the fact that Cal spent most of his career deep in pitino’s head. Cal has just always had an answer for pitino’s pressure defenses.

Again though, the 96 team did a lot of other things well too. They had elite players at every position and one of the best benches of all time. i think in the end guys like devin booker and trey lyles would have been in over their heads in that game.
 

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Ain’t gonna happen. Cal’s never shown any interest in bringing a former UK player aboard his staff (well, except for Brad, who I don’t really count). And, if he ever does, it will be one that played for him, not Pitino.
His son.
 

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Geez, 1996 UK is probably the Greatest college basketball team of all time and had an amazing first half at LSU.

Why flaunt it like that instead of just being humble and a gracious winner?
What's your problem, HH ? Is D.A. making your boy Calipari look bad ? Of course he is ! And you can't stand it !
 

TortElvisII

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ahh i see. yeah i just looked on sports reference. my only point was just i don’t know if they’d stomp the 2015 team. clearly better but that 2015 team was a bear to deal with because of their unheard of size for a college team. i think it’s the tallest college team in history on average height and average height of the starting lineup.

it wasn’t just the post players either. 2 6’5 starting guards is tough for other teams to handle and the twins were very solid defensively as sophomores and we had the dpoy.

i think it would be close because of the size and the fact that Cal spent most of his career deep in pitino’s head. Cal has just always had an answer for pitino’s pressure defenses.

Again though, the 96 team did a lot of other things well too. They had elite players at every position and one of the best benches of all time. i think in the end guys like devin booker and trey lyles would have been in over their heads in that game.
I think our disagreement is on how much difference players staying in school made. I think teams like the 96 team would have never ever had a shot clock violation against Wisconsin late. They would have been up by 15 to 20 points so it wouldn't have mattered. The team the 15 team lost to besides having John Higgins was an older team.
 
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