Dems argued it wasn't a witchunt

TarHeelEer

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No, it's not. You have to follow the money. Of course you don't understand.

I don't understand? 11 years ago has exactly what to do with Trump campaign collusion?

I mean, you were living in your mom's basement then. Wait, that hasn't changed, scratch that.
 

moe

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I don't understand? 11 years ago has exactly what to do with Trump campaign collusion?

I mean, you were living in your mom's basement then. Wait, that hasn't changed, scratch that.
Obviously they've known about shady Manafort for a long time but he was also Trump's campaign manager for about 4 months. I know this is all very complicated but just keep following the news and maybe it will clear up for you at some point.
 

TarHeelEer

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Obviously they've known about shady Manafort for a long time but he was also Trump's campaign manager for about 4 months. I know this is all very complicated but just keep following the news and maybe it will clear up for you at some point.

Oh it's crystal clear. Manafort is shady, Flynn took money from anywhere, Trump junior radar'd 3 over in a speed trap by Fusion, but that's as far as this goes.
 

moe

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Oh it's crystal clear. Manafort is shady, Flynn took money from anywhere, Trump junior radar'd 3 over in a speed trap by Fusion, but that's as far as this goes.
Okey dokey. I'll make one prediction, Manafort will get indicted on something and possibly something unrelated (taxes, etc.) to his involvement with the Trump campaign. They've been working hard to find dirt on Manafort in an attempt to get him to rat out others associated with the campaign who may have crossed the line.
 

Boomboom521

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Loyalists said the SP would be hated by the Dems because his scope will widen to investigate crimes outside of initial inquiry. "Going back 11 years is a witch hunt!"--- you don't have a clue what they are looking at and why.....neither do I. But I guess it's all about destroying Mueller's credibility before the results come out. Wonder why?
 

moe

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Perhaps because investigations have been ongoing for over a year without a single indictment to date? WITCH HUNT. Have to find something on someone.
Republicans started and are overseeing all 3 of the ongoing campaign investigations.
 

mule_eer

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Perhaps because investigations have been ongoing for over a year without a single indictment to date? WITCH HUNT. Have to find something on someone.
You nor I know the full scope of what is being investigated at this point. If you are speaking of the Manafort issue, you aren't going to see the evidence used to get that warrant - it's a FISA court, so it's classified. And these sorts of investigations are always short and sweet - just look at any espionage case in history - minutes of investigation time in those.
 

Boomboom521

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Perhaps because investigations have been ongoing for over a year without a single indictment to date? WITCH HUNT. Have to find something on someone.
Hey, if there's nothing there....I'm happy we don't have a President with such poor integrity. But I want the investigation to be thorough and then I want them to investigate a little more, just for good measure. There's enough there there to focus on being sure....100% sure.
Loyalists want to explain everything away (when Russia backed Trump and attempted to influence the election) with conspiracy theories, that seek to destroy the credibility of the intelligence community --- one thing I know, it's not a witch hunt.
 

Mntneer

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Trump planned his Presidency 11 years ago.... in a dark basement at Trump Tower. Evil genius that he is.
 

Airport

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You nor I know the full scope of what is being investigated at this point. If you are speaking of the Manafort issue, you aren't going to see the evidence used to get that warrant - it's a FISA court, so it's classified. And these sorts of investigations are always short and sweet - just look at any espionage case in history - minutes of investigation time in those.
What about Venona? Went on for years.
 

Boomboom521

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Should they follow all the money of the Clinton Foundation and those crooked people associated with it?
Sure. Why doesn't Trump appoint an SP to investigate Clinton, Lynch, and Obama then? He said he would during the debate. Wonder why he hasn't?
 

Boomboom521

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There is a big difference between ideological similarities and being a loyalist. I would want Billy and Hillary to pay for whatever crimes they committed. I wouldn't just pass it off as "winning", and act like there's nothing wrong with it at all. Investigate them, and if there is guilt (pay for play) at the State Department, then prosecute them/him/her. I would support it.

Loyalists don't care if Trump did anything wrong in regards to Russia. They don't care if he lies. Many don't care if he reneges on his campaign promises. Loyal to the end. And hey, I understand loyalty --- I'm a Bengals fan --- but our loyalty should be to the nation, not any one person. Especially Trump.
 

eerdoc

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Perhaps because investigations have been ongoing for over a year without a single indictment to date? WITCH HUNT. Have to find something on someone.
The assistant AG needs to suffer another impulse moment, recognizing that his former one resulted in a real screwup and a total waste of money, and shut down this foolish witch hunt.If there is desire to have a SP for anything then alter the focus and dwell on Comey Ana Hillary.
 

Airport

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Sure. Why doesn't Trump appoint an SP to investigate Clinton, Lynch, and Obama then? He said he would during the debate. Wonder why he hasn't?
He should, it might get this crap that is going on to end a quickly. One way to stop a fire, is to set another one.
 

Airport

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There is a big difference between ideological similarities and being a loyalist. I would want Billy and Hillary to pay for whatever crimes they committed. I wouldn't just pass it off as "winning", and act like there's nothing wrong with it at all. Investigate them, and if there is guilt (pay for play) at the State Department, then prosecute them/him/her. I would support it.

Loyalists don't care if Trump did anything wrong in regards to Russia. They don't care if he lies. Many don't care if he reneges on his campaign promises. Loyal to the end. And hey, I understand loyalty --- I'm a Bengals fan --- but our loyalty should be to the nation, not any one person. Especially Trump.

The thing is, many of us don't believe that there could have been any "collusion". Hilliary and the crooked DNC that emailed all that crap, did it to themselves. She could have helped herself if she wasn't a weak individual with no stamina and could have campaigned in more than one state a day. Trump beat the crap out of here by having energy.
 

mneilmont

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You nor I know the full scope of what is being investigated at this point. If you are speaking of the Manafort issue, you aren't going to see the evidence used to get that warrant - it's a FISA court, so it's classified. And these sorts of investigations are always short and sweet - just look at any espionage case in history - minutes of investigation time in those.
President should tell the FBI to get him a copy of that warrant. Need to see it before the sun sets.

Damn, the times have changed. I could pick up a bag of grass on the kitchen table and take it and residents in. Judge would look at it and chew me out for being in the kitchen. Warrant specified nothing about the kitchen or bag of grass. Judge probably kept the bag of weed. There has to be some reasonableness sometime, but ain't seeing it yet.
 

dave

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Sure. Why doesn't Trump appoint an SP to investigate Clinton, Lynch, and Obama then? He said he would during the debate. Wonder why he hasn't?
He never said he would appoint a prosecutor to do that? How much **** can one person make up in one thread?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Sure. Why doesn't Trump appoint an SP to investigate Clinton, Lynch, and Obama then? He said he would during the debate. Wonder why he hasn't?
I don't know and it's something I'm extremely at odds with in his decisions tree.
 

Boomboom521

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He said he was going to investigate Obama? I cant read that article.
"Look into your situation".....meaning Clinton, Lynch, and yes.....Obama's WH role in the whole situation.....though he never said Obama.