Dems are going to get buried this Fall

WVUPharm2007

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Not according to some posting in this thread including you!

Or did you not write this


This poster sure disagrees polls don't "predict" future outcomes



So I guess it all depends on what you want your predictive polling to predict? Mine says Blacks vote HUGE for Trump this fall, why wouldn't they? Their unemployment rate is at an all time historic low and it's not Obama's economy!

You were implying that a poll predicted that it's results would change or not change in the future. That's not what polls do. Polls take a snapshot of current public sentiment. So when I say the Gallop poll correctly predicted the election, I'm saying that it did a good job of reflecting pubic sentiment as it was later manifested within the margin of error in the actual election

Gallop didn't release a wriiten statement that black opinion of Trump was X% now and will never go higher ever. Because that isn't what Gallup does. Which is what you were implying above.

I'm not sure if you understand the nuance there.
 

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Half the country has no integrity.

SMH.

How can anyone that actually believes this not walk around with soul crippling contempt for his fellow countrymen?

#sad

Most Democrats and Republicans are 100% party over country, so I would actually put that figure a bit higher.
 

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Most Democrats and Republicans are 100% party over country, so I would actually put that figure a bit higher.

 

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You were implying that a poll predicted that it's results would change or not change in the future. That's not what polls do. Polls take a snapshot of current public sentiment. So when I say the Gallop poll correctly predicted the election, I'm saying that it did a good job of reflecting pubic sentiment as it was later manifested within the margin of error in the actual election

Gallop didn't release a wriiten statement that black opinion of Trump was X% now and will never go higher ever. Because that isn't what Gallup does. Which is what you were implying above.

I'm not sure if you understand the nuance there.

You're right. It was a prediction by analysts who look at the numbers and how they're trending and they make predictions based on the snapshots and/or trends as they see them at the time. I linked to some of that in the article I quoted, and until the actual votes are cast it's all speculation. However that same speculation a year ago didn't have Black support where it is now at 36% for Trump and many said if it ever got that high Dems are toast. Well it's that high now, and Dems are toast if it holds up.
 

atlkvb

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Half the country has no integrity.

SMH.

How can anyone that actually believes this not walk around with soul crippling contempt for his fellow countrymen?

#sad

How can someone who supported "kankles" Clinton accuse anyone else of lacking integrity?
 

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You're right. It was a prediction by analysts who look at the numbers and how they're trending and they make predictions based on the snapshots and/or trends as they see them at the time. I linked to some of that in the article I quoted, and until the actual votes are cast it's all speculation. However that same speculation a year ago didn't have Black support where it is now at 36% for Trump and many said if it ever got that high Dems are toast. Well it's that high now, and Dems are toast if it holds up.

I can certainly agree that if 36% of black American voted Republican, the Democrats are toast.
 

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Don't think the Donald will actually loose an impeachment trial as the Senate has the vote on it and the numbers don't point to a conviction. Anyway, still think he will have that happen to him to slow him down and force him to open him tax returns. Also think he is vulnerable to DOJ action in New York....

It is sad to have to dig for the facts when the major networks are so bent on slants for their party affiliations. The articles were interesting to me because they reflect a fair amount of what I hear around the water cooler. African Americans are seeing the gains in their investments and improvement in their job opportunities. We recently lost 4 of our best buyers to Civilian Navy (great jobs) and all were promotions not 29 hr/wk positions. The Navy is hiring and the 2nd fleet is being reactivated... But still, most don't like him enough to vote for him.... I know he won't get Omarosa's vote (another bad pre election decision).

But, he is unpopular and the negative press is constant. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. There are a lot of bad animals in the swamp and they are going to bite when poked. Would be much easier if he didn't have so many past events that were stormy and pushing the legal limits. Since he under polls, I honestly have no idea how his coat tails will impact the midterms but I do think the minority vote will absolutely be a key to the outcome. Buckle up, wild ride ahead.
 
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JWG66

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These political posts are getting so old on here. Yesterday we have a Jennifer Garner post turn political. Can you imagine seeing a pic of this and still wanting to talk politics?








Suddenly I'm thinking what's in my wallet.
 

atlkvb

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I can certainly agree that if 36% of black American voted Republican, the Democrats are toast.

We agree in our disagreement. [winking]

I'm Black...I voted for Trump, I know many, many,many, others who are now ready to do the same thing. Why?

J-O-B-S. (No other reason really, none of them really like him but they're getting paid HUGE $$$$$$$$$$$$)

 

atlkvb

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Don't think the Donald will actually loose an impeachment trial as the Senate has the vote on it and the numbers don't point to a conviction. Anyway, still think he will have that happen to him to slow him down and force him to open him tax returns. Also think he is vulnerable to DOJ action in New York....

It is sad to have to dig for the facts when the major networks are so bent on slants for their party affiliations. The articles were interesting to me because they reflect a fair amount of what I hear around the water cooler. African Americans are seeing the gains in their investments and improvement in their job opportunities. We recently lost 4 of our best buyers to Civilian Navy (great jobs) and all were promotions not 29 hr/wk positions. The Navy is hiring and the 2nd fleet is being reactivated... But still, most don't like him enough to vote for him.... I know he won't get Omarosa's vote (another bad pre election decision).

But, he is unpopular and the negative press is constant. Anyway, it will b interesting to see how this plays out. There are a lot of bad animals in the swamp and they are going to bite when poked. Would be much easier if he didn't have so many past events that were stormy and pushing the legal limits. Since he under polls, I honestly have no idea how his coat tails will impact a midterms but I do think the minority vote will absolutely be a key to the outcome. Buckle up, wild ride ahead.

Good post. The key to watch here is what if anything Democrats offer Blacks as an alternative to the great jobs they're now getting under Trump? So far they got nada!

Trump's a Pimp, Blacks know that...but he also means they now have money in their pockets they've never had before and that color (green) just doesn't see race.

It's Friday night, and Black's just got paid after years of NO JOBS!!!!!

Party hardy!!!!!
 
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(From the archives)

Oh Oh...Steve Harvey says Trump keeps his word:
https://westvirginia.forums.rivals....y-said-that-trump-is-keeping-his-word.143721/

excerpt:
If Trump gets to just 15% black vote, Dems can't win.

15 WVPATX, Apr 20, 2017

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-african-americans-rasmussen-poll/1013212002/

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"Today's @realDonaldTrump approval ratings among black voters: 36%," Rasmussen said in a tweet. "This day last year: 19%."

That is a staggeringly high number for a man who only won 8 percent of the African-American vote in 2016.

...more

African American support for Trump at 36%...almost double from last year

https://www.rt.com/usa/436248-black-support-trump-grows/

excerpt:

Support for US President Donald Trump among black voters is currently at 36 percent, almost double the number from last year, according to a new poll. It comes despite reports that a tape exists of Trump using the N-word

analysis:
Growing support for Trump, bad news for Dems

excerpt:

A conservative black activist says the results of a recent poll showing increased support among blacks for Donald Trump is the last thing Democrats wanted to see going into the midterm elections. That activist isn't alone in his assessment. Jesse Lee Peterson, founder and president of The Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny(BOND), predicts that "before it's all said and done," that number is going to go even higher

https://www.onenewsnow.com/politics...port-for-trump-among-blacks-bad-news-for-dems

I've been reporting (predicting) this phenomenon for nearly two years now. No doubt I've been proven correct about it. So this qualifies me to make another prediction. Black support for Trump will continue to grow. It will grow to the point where Democrats won't win another national election without that lost support. This is the beginning of the end of the Democrat party as we know it. (atlkvb)

As a result of the loss of this traditional support among Blacks, Democrats will turn more radical and Left (to gain lost support) and will become even more maniacal as they continue to lose election after election for being totally out of the mainstream with most Americans. The @walkway movement will grow, and the Democrat party will gradually die for lack of popular support. When will all of this happen?

It's happening...just open your eyes.

I'm right... & no one on the Left can dispute me, therefore no one will.

(Fact)


Posted at 3:48am were you having a nightmare about the Blue Wave coming or sell a bunch of vehicles yesterday and was on an all night bender and just had to post something?
[pfftt]
 

atlkvb

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Posted at 3:48am were you having a nightmare about the Blue Wave coming or sell a bunch of vehicles yesterday and was on an all night bender and just had to post something?
[pfftt]

Now that's funny! I'm a hopeless insomniac, especially after a night of drinking [winking]

(Really, just fell asleep early after getting ripped, and woke up at 4am)
 

atlkvb

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Generally speaking, Republicans don’t vote based on whether they like the person or not, it’s based on policy put forth in the platform. The fact that you made THAT post, says a hell of a lot more about you.

They (Left) bash Trump over his personality and offer nothing to defeat his policies. His supporters love his brash personality and bash his opponents for not offering anything substantive in terms of better policies.

Trump's beating his opponents trying to defeat him by smearing his personality with solid results from his policies.

At the end of the day, just as you said, no one is voting for him being "Mr. Congeniality!" They're supporting him because he's getting things done and making good sh*t happen.

Fact.
 

JWG66

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Good post. The key to watch here is what if anything Democrats offer Blacks as an alternative to the great jobs they're now getting under Trump? So far they got nada!

Trump's a Pimp, Blacks know that...but he also means they now have money in their pockets they've never had before and that color (green) just doesn't see race.

It's Friday night, and Black's just got paid after years of NO JOBS!!!!!

Party hardy!!!!!


To me, this is well said. Promises but no real change for a long time. Think the minority vote was a given. Do you think he will actually try to have a rally in Rom’s Back yard?

So easy to fog up what’s happening. Specially when the news these days is so highly opinionated. I just want $$ and safety for my family. Then I can afford to party hearty after some good mountaineer W’s.
 
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atlkvb

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To me, this is well said. Promises but no real change for a long time. Think the minority vote was a given. Do you think he will actually try to have a rally in Rom’s Back yard?

So easy to fog up what’s happening. Specially when the news these days is so highly opinionated. I just want $$ and safety for my family. Then I can afford to party hardy after some good mountaineer W’s.

You have captured the running sentiment of most Blacks (and other Americans) with this line: "I just want $$ and safety for my family."

We talk about "crossing the racial/political divide"...that's the bridge right there Brother.

(And a winning season for our Mountaineers) :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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You have captured the running sentiment of most Blacks (and other Americans) with this line: "I just want $$ and safety for my family."

We talk about "crossing the racial/political divide...that's the bridge right there Brother.

(And a winning season for our Mountaineers) :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Midterm elections: Black voters angry at Donald Trump expected to turn out in key House races, survey found
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ald-trump-expected-impact-midterms/917283002/
 

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That was another NYT attempt to bury the president. Actually did a pretty good job. It got several hundred responses. The readers of NYT approved of the article. You would not expect normal readers of the Times to support Trump. I was not disappointed. Comments were substantially anti-Trump and very well written, articulate, and from all over the map. They were constant in burying Trump and the only thing they offered was name calling. None elaborated on the reason Trump was not qualified. Only a small percent of the responders pointed out the negative comments were in the form of name-calling without elaborating why he was disliked. Probably consistent with their eloquently stated objection in the form of name-calling without alluding to the reason for objection. That form was very much like the objections we see on our little and limited board.
 

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Generally speaking, Republicans don’t vote based on whether they like the person or not, it’s based on policy put forth in the platform. The fact that you made THAT post, says a hell of a lot more about you.

The fact he also can't name one policy Dems are offering that's better than Trump's says a lot about why they're going to get buried this Fall. You can't get elected on hate alone. What are Democrats offering the voters besides TDS on steroids?
 

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The fact he also can't name one policy Dems are offering that's better than Trump's says a lot about why they're going to get buried this Fall. You can't get elected on hate alone. What are Democrats offering the voters besides TDS on steroids?

I give you one stand up to Putin and tell him to **** off keep his **** up and he’ll regret it. 2nd raise the tax rate for the Top 10% to help pay for infrastructure they own most of this country they would even benefit more if our infrastructure was updated and helped in the efficiency of moving goods and services in the entire country.
 

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I give you one stand up to Putin and tell him to **** off keep his **** up and he’ll regret it. 2nd raise the tax rate for the Top 10% to help pay for infrastructure they own most of this country they would even benefit more if our infrastructure was updated and helped in the efficiency of moving goods and services in the entire country.

Yup...that's a winner. Tell Putin he's an ***, and tax the sh*t out of the rich! (A lot of Blacks are in that top 10% btw) That's the formula for Dems to ride in on that big Blue Wave! You got it Bulya...you 'da man!!!!![eyeroll]

 

atlkvb

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2nd raise the tax rate for the Top 10%

Hey @Bulya my Man, do you know what percentage of the total tax bill currently collected by Uncle Sam the top 10% of income earners are already paying? Let me know if you need help looking it up. When you find it, tell me how much more of that total tax bill they should be paying than they are now and how that gets Dems elected this fall?

Don't forget to post some real numbers for me since you've said this is a winning formula for Dems this Fall OK? I'll be waiting.[smoke]
 

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Obama Says He Told Putin: ‘CUT IT OUT”on Hacking. ............... Obama sure showed Putin who the boss was.

I told that Bolshevik I'd have "more flexibility" after my re-election. Why didn't he believe me?
 

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Obama Says He Told Putin: ‘CUT IT OUT”on Hacking. ............... Obama sure showed Putin who the boss was.
Maybe that was what he was referring to when he whispered into the mic, "could have told him in his second term". Country elected a Community Organizer and Editor of Harvard Law Review. That is what everyone got. Obviously didn't know his *** from hole.... going in or coming out. Country paid a cost for 8 years and undetermined cost in the future.
 

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We were discussing Hillary's Daughter's Wedding plans, Loretta Lynch was going over the same itinerary with Bill on the plane sitting on that Tarmac in Phoenix. We all wanted to make sure Chelsea was happy!
 

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what


whats jobs are they doing ?

Correcting Democrat and media lies about how much of a racist Trump is & hates them. Know how? They're getting hired in good paying jobs where they are allowed to keep more of what they're earning thanks to Trump's tax cuts.[winking]
 
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The black unemployment rate just hit a record low, but there’s a catch - Vox
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...-unemployment-rate-record-low-may-jobs-report

The "catch" is Democrats don't/can't offer anything better than the well paying jobs to Blacks who haven't had them available in this number in their history ever. Not even the nation's first Black President offered them job opportunities like this racist Trump has.

The "catch"? It's not the Government offering them these employment opportunities. (or food stamps as an alternative)
 
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