Democrats refuse to pay DHS Employees

baltimorened

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Neither argument that you have made here is accurate. Not everybody has a birth certificate. Not everyone is born in a hospital.
ok, now I wouldn't bet against your post, but how does anyone without a birth certificate of some sort exist in modern society. You need a birth certificate to get a social security card and for just about any ID..

Oh and not to be snarky, although I guess this is: the number of people without birth certificate of any sort has to be minimal...if we're not concerned about the small number of illegals voting, shouldn't we have the same amount of concern over the small number of people without birth certificates?

And a little more data:

To get a U.S. passport without a birth certificate, you must submit a "Letter of No Record" from your state of birth along with secondary evidence of citizenship, such as baptismal certificates, early school records, or census records. You must also fill out Form DS-11 and a Birth Affidavit form (DS-10) signed by someone who has personal knowledge of your birth
 
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JohnHughsPartner

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Consider how many hillbillies (aka red state residents) the requirement of proof of. Itizrnshop would disenfranchise. Few of them have traveled outside the confines of the rural backwater in which they reside, so they have no passport. And if a certified copy of their birth certificate is required, that word "certified" is certain to trip them up.
“ Itizrnshop would disenfranchise”

While calling people “hillbillies” lol
 

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If voter ID is a 80-20 issue, why do democrats oppose it? It’s long been vehemently opposed independent of the save act. Honest question.
Probably because it will make it more difficult for some people to exercise their legal right. Lots of women will have not updated their ID with married name. You also have people who will have a different address on ID vs ballot. Women and people who are transient are much more likely to be dem voters, which is why republicans keep pushing for this despite any evidence of voter fraud.

And even if it was an 80/20 issue, I could point to a number of policies that are wildly popular in America but still not law - gun control, abortion, recreational marijuana.
 
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Allornothing

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I'm not worried about getting shot by an ICE agent at the airport. I realize that some people will consider me quite naive.

FWIW Jeffries also said that republicans cut Medicaid but reality is they just required able bodied working age people without dependents to work 20 hrs per week. He said tens of millions would lose insurance coverage if enhanced covid subsidies weren't extended. The reality is that 1.4 million fewer people are getting insurance through the exchange and many of them are getting coverage elsewhere.
You expected these people to "tell the truth, and only the truth, so help you GOD". That's where you ****ed up. They don't believe in a GOD, like the muslims do.

Their god is religion.
 
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Allornothing

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Heard a senator on squawk box this morning say that they are going to do a straight up or down vote only on voter ID this week. I imagine that will be well supported by the Dems if it’s the other things in the Save act they don’t like?
Good luck with that. I think it's an actual crime in Cali if an ID is even asked for.
 
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Allornothing

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ok, now I wouldn't bet against your post, but how does anyone without a birth certificate of some sort exist in modern society. You need a birth certificate to get a social security card and for just about any ID..

Oh and not to be snarky, although I guess this is: the number of people without birth certificate of any sort has to be minimal...if we're not concerned about the small number of illegals voting, shouldn't we have the same amount of concern over the small number of people without birth certificates?

And a little more data:

To get a U.S. passport without a birth certificate, you must submit a "Letter of No Record" from your state of birth along with secondary evidence of citizenship, such as baptismal certificates, early school records, or census records. You must also fill out Form DS-11 and a Birth Affidavit form (DS-10) signed by someone who has personal knowledge of your birth
I know you try to see things from either side, but we (the US) can't continue to allow anyone with NO background to enter this country.

The demonrats put us forever on this path when 'Ole Joe let in millions.

Only GOD can help us if they ever get total power again.
 
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TigerGrowls

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Are democrats going to now file a lawsuit, in order to prevent TSA agents from being paid?

They can’t stop Trump from doing this.

Trump is declaring it an emergency and the Supreme Court will back him on his Constitutional authority to do so.

The democrats are part of the enemy “insurgency.”

Q drop
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CounterINSURGENCY may be defined as ‘comprehensive civilian and military efforts taken to simultaneously defeat and contain INSURGENCY and address its root causes’.
Q

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The TELL.
How can we listen in, track, and monitor American citizens [bad actors]?
[We hear you].
[We see you].
What must we LEGALLY demonstrate in order to gain such warrants?
FISA?
Do we TRUST the FISA judges?
MIL INTEL?
STATE SECRETS?
Why is this relevant?
Who can we TRUST?
Expand your thinking.
Q
 

LafayetteBear

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“ Itizrnshop would disenfranchise”

While calling people “hillbillies” lol
You caught a mistake I made. Good for you. I post a lot. and never claimed to be immune from that. But those mistakes are relatively rare. You fall well short of being immune from such mistakes.
 

TigerGrowls

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I had Grok break down Trump’s EO, and there were some interesting points:

1) This EO includes the involvement of DHS creating state citizenship lists for every state. DHS’s role in election security is expanding.

2) Mail-in ballots are being reformed, with “unique intelligent mail barcodes”, and these ballots can only be mailed to citizens on the state citizenship lists created by DHS and SSA.

3) The order also directs the AG to prioritize investigations and prosecutions of election-related crimes, particularly related to distributing/collecting illegal ballots to/from non-citizens.

In conclusion, Trump is using DHS to secure elections via managing the voter rolls and preventing mail-in ballot fraud, while the DOJ has been instructed to prosecute any attempts to cheat.

This is what the Dems have been worried about the entire time. This is why they have been refusing to fund DHS and throwing a fit about ICE. It was always about election security.
 

baltimorened

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I have heard this, but have not seen any confirmation that a democrat has actually, or has stated an intent, to sue. Personally, I don't think suing would be a good idea. The instant that happened, it would immediately remove the concept that it is republicans holding up TSA pay.
 
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