Democrat Trash.....
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Great. I absolutely will. Why didn't you attack Trump for wanting to giver everyone a $2,000 check? Just more Orange God swallowing from you.
Agreed. Not sure why it's difficult. Both sets of losers are wrong. No need to defend one's tribe and point to a time the other team f'd up in a similar fashion. Hopeful a few very public prosecutions and long prison sentences from agitators from each side would cool this off.
Because you've only been around during Trump's one term. I wasn't a fan of Ma0bama's spending and stupid protectionist trade policies either.
This is why you aren't a lost cause. You see the symptoms, I just haven't been able to get you to elaborate far enough what you see as the cause of the problem.
OK, I think it's stupid for the Gov to give money to anyone during Covid was not directly impacted (I can understand gov. loans for industry to an extent, but we should have never locked down for more than 30 days.
I have said all along that we should not have shut down and instead mitigated risk to those who are the most vulnerable. It has been one huge money grab and has forced us closer to a single payor system and even more social spending...
I am in favor of helping those who lost their jobs, became ill or had to alter their life to take care of family. My family did not receive any stimulus money and my son did not either and I'm fine with that. My son's girlfriend, a nice NYC jewish liberal already has her money...and she works in fashion (her brand is targeted at rich white people) and never missed a paycheck and only worked 20 hours a week. She bought a new set of skis made in Italy....that really helped our economy.
One thing that is going to happen as soon as Biden takes office...he will handing out money to the states like it was candy...NYC, Portland and Chicago will have FU money in about 3 months. All the allowed "peaceful protects" will build a new downtown in those cities.
I just don't think I agree there are as many problems as people like to suggest. Aside from 2020, we are in a period of unprecedented wealth, growth, opportunity, relative peace. Not to say everything is perfect and will forever stay that way.
What exactly is the "problem" as you see it?
Agreed..but even when Trump cut subsidies to the USPS for Chinese shipments to the US you were attacking him...you can hate the man, but he did some things that have cut costs...and you have never acknowledged it. And I'm not a Trump fan...but I like many of his policies.
Trump has been handing money out to states like candy for 4 years. Hysterical you seem to be piping up about it now.
Honestly didn't really follow the rest of your post.
I attacked Trump for cutting subsidies to the USPS for Chinese shipments? WTF does that even mean?
He cut some miniscule costs for political purposes, but exploded the deficits and debt during his term Even as it was the "greatest economy ever". I don't care about micro political games. Have at them.
I've acknowledged the good he did with the corporate tax cut and some of the regulation he cleaned up. Of course he added massive amounts of regulation and a giant tax increase to American businesses and consumers. And it cost him a robust GDP and easier economic argument in the election.
Do you have kids? I don't yet but I am planning to start soon and I want them to be able to live their life free and not be born into debt (the current generation isn't going to pay it back so who is?). I want them to not live in a country that can send its goons to kidnap you and throw you in a cage for growing a plant or not reporting their earnings to be stolen. I don't want their every move to be recorded and stored in a government database. I don't want my kids to require permission from the government to live their lives.
The problem as I see it is government. It is inherently corrupt and it is the concentration of power and influence in this world.
The solution is decentralization.
It was not the same......I must have missed the part where the Michigan protestors were pounding on the SOS's door.
Yes.....local DC station played a video made by the protestors.
the debt isn't going away....just wait until China calls for the marker to be paid back.
do you have any problem with the country going further into debt essentially stealing from future generations to live more comfortably today? What do you think should be done about it?
I agree with you on government being the problem. Guess I just don't understand all of you elaborate conspiracies about WEF, new world orders, establishment, etc.
Are you going out of your mind with these Congressional leaders looking to usurp state vote totals and certifications? Congress ceding so much power to the executive branch for the last 2 decades? The rule by executive orders in these last 2 administrations? Seems we agree on a lot of broader strokes, but not on the finer details. Important to remember. But, I am still an *** and I will continue to mock people that prefer the gold standard or fear a one world government is imminent, or the global elite pacify the masses with whatever silly stuff is in vogue at that time.
Would be suicide for them. Won't happen. And China doesn't hold as much of our debt as you think.
Edit: - I'm an idiot. That was supposed to be in response to your post about China calling our debt. Bad Internettin' by me.
Really? Trump wrote the checks? Congress has nothing to do with it? It was Trump 100%? Trump, not of fan of him doing this, but he just did what every politician in the last 30 years have done....give money and hope they vote you back into office...There is a reason why election years are the most pork filled budgets...and the off years is figuring out where the spend will generate the most votes.
Ah semantics. Not up for anything serious, just defend the Great Orange God. Enjoy your day!
Hard to watch that video and call them Antifa. Pathetic douch bags? Absolutely. And they shouldn't have been there. P
Who spends the money? Congress of the Executive branch? They threatened to sue Trump for trying to give 2k directly to the people...and he backed down...(and yes, I disagree with the 2k and even the $600 payments)
Calling out parties that need to sign off on a budget is not protecting Trump...it is actually stating what actually happens every year!
100% agree...and yes the Republican Party used to pretend to act like they cared about the budget, but those days are long gone. The dims have always said tax more people so we can spend more...and this will be in full display in less than 20 days. Coop and the rest will sit on their hands and use some socialist leaning economist to try and prove that more taxes will make citizens happier and more wealthy.
As i said earlier, I'm a blue dog dem. We need to handle the debt but our archaic tax system has to go. I for one support the Fair Tax.
Earlier today you said I didn't say anything about Obama's spending. I did and mention Trump's spending and now it is suddenly Congress's fault. :joy: :joy: :joy:
Why would I even bother with such an oblivious Trump swallower. I look forward to you joining the Free Trade, anti spending resistance around midday January 21.
Your free trade...is not real free trade...it global trade. I have spent the majority of my working life working for an International corporation, China's economy has been the holy grail...and they kept investing in partnerships, buying Chinese goods thinking they would open their markets...it never happened...and never will. Wishful thinking on your part. China is and always will be an exporting economy...they have to keep their slaves busy so that they are to tired to realize that they are slaves. That's all you care about...cheap goods made in China...nothing else...
I have never in my two years read anything that you disagreed with any budgets Congress offered....sorry, trust but verify...when you start going after Biden and ALL politicians that vote for increased spending then maybe I will trust what you say...to date...never happened....so yes it is :joy: that you act like you are a fiscal conservative but you only go after one side of the isle.
He's just a troll. It appears that he likes to yell at the clouds...at least so far, only the orange ones....
And I believe ones home and its locked doors constitute private property. Those entering the property without invitation and attempting to breach the barriers to the property are trespassing. In addition, ppusing force to gain entry, such as banging on closed doors, constitutes a threat to personal safety on private property and, in my opinion, should justify any sort of defensive measure, including the employment of severe actions. In fact, when there are threats of harm to the rightful owner(s) of the private property, I believe that defense from potentially serious (especially life ending) attacks should be rebuffed without mercy toward the intruders. Such outward attacks by lawless thugs must be stopped. Invasion of ones privacy, including the residence and real property surrounding such, as far more than a simple, lawful demonstration on public land.
One MIGHT have a right to stand on public property, in front of my ( or the home of anyone), and shout at them. Doing so and lacing the rhetoric with obscenities, especially when children are being, unwittingly exposed to such, is crude and exposes lack of character and good taste on the part of the perpetrator. However such a tasteless display may not have crossed into illegslities. However, the moment there are THREATS of hostility to the objects of the activity then, as I understand the first amendment, this is no longer a free speech issue. Threats carry with them the immediate belief that harm, including desth, is on the minds of those bellowing at them. Encroaching onto their private property with physical attempts such as the pounding on doors, breaking of windows , starting fires, etc.,to gain access and contact with the occupants constitutes a true ‘clear snd present danger. No one has the right to attempt a forced entry into the home of another, especially if harmful threats are accompany the attempted entry. Thr lawful rights of the law abiding MUST be restored. The rule by anarchy MUST stop.
In the case of elected officials I brlieve we are reaching the point where each should be given a hand gun of their choice ( maybe paid for by the particular political party of that individual) and provided, without personal cost, all necessary training as to safe and appropriate use thereof. I would not object to this being extended to their spouses. No one should face life threatening actions by others without the benefit of having access to appropriate means of self defense.