Dedrick Young

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Dedrick was not good at making run fills. He struggled to drive through the hole and blow guys up. However, he is damn good in pass coverage for an outside backer. That and his athleticism is what caused Cleveland to take a flyer on him.
 
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Inside linebacker Dedrick Young signed with the Cleveland Browns. Young ran a 4.51 in the 40 at Nebraska's Pro Day, and finished his Husker career among the Top 10 tacklers in program history.

I guess he wasn't as bad as many of the posters thought!!
I admit he made me crazy sometimes, but I felt he was blamed for a lot of defensive woes not his fault. It would have been nice to see what he could have done with one DC (he had three), one scheme (he had four), and one tackling technique (he had at least three).
 

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I admit he made me crazy sometimes, but I felt he was blamed for a lot of defensive woes not his fault. It would have been nice to see what he could have done with one DC (he had three), one scheme (he had four), and one tackling technique (he had at least three).
He also never played much Defense until he got to NU. He was a high school RB that Riley and Bray converted to OLB
 

dinglefritz

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He also never played much Defense until he got to NU. He was a high school RB that Riley and Bray converted to OLB
Not getting drafted is not the end of the world. In fact it may be better than getting taken in the 7th. Most of the UDFA signees are going to get a nice signing bonus that sets them up pretty well after college and probably makes the work all worth it. Heck just getting college paid for and not coming out with any debt gives them a HUGE leg up on life.
 

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Inside linebacker Dedrick Young signed with the Cleveland Browns. Young ran a 4.51 in the 40 at Nebraska's Pro Day, and finished his Husker career among the Top 10 tacklers in program history.

I guess he wasn't as bad as many of the posters thought!!
The NFL teams have seen his tape. I think this is more of a flyer on a kid who tested well more than anything. The Browns also drafted Mack Wilson from Alabama so Young may be playing for a practice squad opportunity more than anything else. And that's not too bad really.
 

dinglefritz

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The NFL teams have seen his tape. I think this is more of a flyer on a kid who tested well more than anything. The Browns also drafted Mack Wilson from Alabama so Young may be playing for a practice squad opportunity more than anything else. And that's not too bad really.
NFL teams need lots of linebackers for special teams if nothing else. I suspect somebody questions the coaching he had at NU for at least his first 3 years and they think that maybe they can fix it. If not they aren't out much.
 
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oldjar07

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Dedrick was not good at making run fills. He struggled to drive through the hole and blow guys up. However, he is damn good in pass coverage for an outside backer. That and his athleticism is what caused Cleveland to take a flyer on him.
I wouldn't say damn good in coverage, maybe he was ok. There's one play I remember where the DB's are in man coverage and he was in the middle. I think it was Cam Taylor that let his man inside of him on a slant. He would have had help in the middle, but Young for no apparent reason starts crashing hard towards the line of scrimmage. He probably could have had a pick if he just stayed in that spot, but instead the receiver gets a huge gain on a simple slant route.

Dedrick Young is a guy who although he may have the physical tools, just has poor awareness on the field. I don't think a guy with poor awareness has much chance of success in the nfl even staying on a practice squad. It's a similar reason to why Tanner Lee was quickly relegated to the practice squad.
 

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Inside linebacker Dedrick Young signed with the Cleveland Browns. Young ran a 4.51 in the 40 at Nebraska's Pro Day, and finished his Husker career among the Top 10 tacklers in program history.

I guess he wasn't as bad as many of the posters thought!!

Exactly, he got hated on constantly on this message board. And I’ll admit, I rarely defended him. Let’s face it, he started as a true freshman and continued to start until his finished his senior year. Now, he’s signed with the Browns. I hope he does great in the NFL too. Or solid...how ever you want to word it.
 

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No it isn't a coincidence. I am not his parent however I do know the young man. He was never a vocal kid. Always astute, ready to learn and give you everything he had.
I said that in jest. I get the bad feeling we may really wish Dedrick had another year of eligibility considering how thin we are at OLB.
 

Woodguy79

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Not getting drafted is not the end of the world. In fact it may be better than getting taken in the 7th. Most of the UDFA signees are going to get a nice signing bonus that sets them up pretty well after college and probably makes the work all worth it. Heck just getting college paid for and not coming out with any debt gives them a HUGE leg up on life.

Free agent signing bonuses aren’t much. Certainly not enough to set anyone up for life.
 

dinglefritz

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Free agent signing bonuses aren’t much. Certainly not enough to set anyone up for life.
Nobody said the signing bonus sets you up for life. The QB from Washington got I think 150k. Depends on the position and how badly they want you. ANYTHING helps and when you couple that with a free education that's a pretty nice start on life. It sure as hell beats coming out of college with 100K+ of debt.
 

oldjar07

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He graded out the same as Mo Barry in PFF but Barry is loved because he shows emotion while Young didn’t. Both were not proficient at making good run fits.
That's not true at all. I think Barry is overrated by some on this board, but he is vastly better in run support than Dedrick was. Also Dedrick was probably only a little better against the pass. I don't think emotion has much to do with it.
 
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That's not true at all. I think Barry is overrated by some on this board, but he is vastly better in run support than Dedrick was. Also Dedrick was probably only a little better against the pass. I don't think emotion has much to do with it.

Well, if they graded out the same on Pro Football Focus, then it indeed is true. You may not like how they grade or whatever, but just because you don't like it that doesn't make what he wrote "not true at all"
 

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As a fan, Dedrick Young was one of the most puzzling players I've seen in recent history. He was a starter basically from the time he set foot and campus, and while he was never flashy, he held that spot throughout his career. It should also be noted that two entirely different coaches staffs named him a starter so I think it's safe to say that he truly earned his spot. No doubt, he had some physical talents, but I always got the sense that it was more about his work ethic and ability to grasp his assignments.

That said, I can understand why many fans are underwhelmed by his career achievements. If I'm not mistaken, he never made All-Conference honors (or even an honorable mention). He racked up his tackle numbers in part due to the lack of talent around him. It allowed him to get on the field sooner and remain in that position unchallenged.

I'm happy that he tested well and that a 4-year starter at Nebraska still means something to NFL scouts. Maybe he can be another NU linebacker than underwhelmed in college (according to fan expectations), but went on to have a solid pro career (see Barrett Ruud or Stewart Bradley).
 

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As a fan, Dedrick Young was one of the most puzzling players I've seen in recent history. He was a starter basically from the time he set foot and campus, and while he was never flashy, he held that spot throughout his career. It should also be noted that two entirely different coaches staffs named him a starter so I think it's safe to say that he truly earned his spot. No doubt, he had some physical talents, but I always got the sense that it was more about his work ethic and ability to grasp his assignments.

That said, I can understand why many fans are underwhelmed by his career achievements. If I'm not mistaken, he never made All-Conference honors (or even an honorable mention). He racked up his tackle numbers in part due to the lack of talent around him. It allowed him to get on the field sooner and remain in that position unchallenged.

I'm happy that he tested well and that a 4-year starter at Nebraska still means something to NFL scouts. Maybe he can be another NU linebacker than underwhelmed in college (according to fan expectations), but went on to have a solid pro career (see Barrett Ruud or Stewart Bradley).
Or maybe it shows how bad the linebackers behind him were.
 

JohnRossEwing

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The problem was he basically started the way he finished. Never seemed like he got better...but his stats in the end are impressive. Hopefully he plays in the NFL for a decade and makes a fortune.
 

oldjar07

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Well, if they graded out the same on Pro Football Focus, then it indeed is true. You may not like how they grade or whatever, but just because you don't like it that doesn't make what he wrote "not true at all"
I meant that it's not true at all that Young is not liked because he's quiet, and Barry is loved because he shows emotion. People like Barry more because he actually showed improvement, plays more aggressive, and is an all around better player. He also wasn't handed the job as a freshman and then showed little for the entire rest of his career while continuing to be a starter.
 

mgbreeze

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I'll say two things. Dedrick Young was not good at Nebraska. And that doesn't mean he won't be a good pro. I thought Scott Shanle wasn't good while at Nebraska, and he was a heck of a pro.
 

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As a fan, Dedrick Young was one of the most puzzling players I've seen in recent history. He was a starter basically from the time he set foot and campus, and while he was never flashy, he held that spot throughout his career. It should also be noted that two entirely different coaches staffs named him a starter so I think it's safe to say that he truly earned his spot. No doubt, he had some physical talents, but I always got the sense that it was more about his work ethic and ability to grasp his assignments.

That said, I can understand why many fans are underwhelmed by his career achievements. If I'm not mistaken, he never made All-Conference honors (or even an honorable mention). He racked up his tackle numbers in part due to the lack of talent around him. It allowed him to get on the field sooner and remain in that position unchallenged.

I'm happy that he tested well and that a 4-year starter at Nebraska still means something to NFL scouts. Maybe he can be another NU linebacker than underwhelmed in college (according to fan expectations), but went on to have a solid pro career (see Barrett Ruud or Stewart Bradley).
Barrett Ruud and Stew Brad were underwhelming? Say what?
 
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I meant that it's not true at all that Young is not liked because he's quiet, and Barry is loved because he shows emotion. People like Barry more because he actually showed improvement, plays more aggressive, and is an all around better player. He also wasn't handed the job as a freshman and then showed little for the entire rest of his career while continuing to be a starter.

I definitely disagree with this. I am 100% on the side that says Barry is more well liked because of his fire and how he shows emotion. Being aggressive doesn't mean you are filling the right gap or making the right read. It just means that you get where ever you are going harder. Which is great if you get to the right place. Since 90% of football fans have no idea what a run fit is or who is responsible for what on this defense, we think because he gets there quickly and lets everyone know he got there that he is better.

You just don't like Young because you think you know what he is supposed to do. Yet time and time again last year, Ruud would say that Young graded out better than others.

It's cool to think that way, but as I said before, your opinion doesn't make it true, it just makes it your opinion.

I believe Young just reached his potential at an earlier age than others. Once you max out, you don't make large gains year after year. I have seen countless players down here in Texas that max out early in college. The training they receive on the high school level is so much higher than most other states that when they get to college, they are as good or nearly as good as they are going to get.
 

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Let's see Young actually make a 53-man roster before we go and declare who did or didn't know what.

His athleticism and upside were never the issue.
 
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I definitely disagree with this. I am 100% on the side that says Barry is more well liked because of his fire and how he shows emotion. Being aggressive doesn't mean you are filling the right gap or making the right read. It just means that you get where ever you are going harder. Which is great if you get to the right place. Since 90% of football fans have no idea what a run fit is or who is responsible for what on this defense, we think because he gets there quickly and lets everyone know he got there that he is better.

You just don't like Young because you think you know what he is supposed to do. Yet time and time again last year, Ruud would say that Young graded out better than others.

It's cool to think that way, but as I said before, your opinion doesn't make it true, it just makes it your opinion.

I believe Young just reached his potential at an earlier age than others. Once you max out, you don't make large gains year after year. I have seen countless players down here in Texas that max out early in college. The training they receive on the high school level is so much higher than most other states that when they get to college, they are as good or nearly as good as they are going to get.

I know exactly what his run fits are, and the problem is that Dedrick does not.
 

oldjar07

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I definitely disagree with this. I am 100% on the side that says Barry is more well liked because of his fire and how he shows emotion. Being aggressive doesn't mean you are filling the right gap or making the right read. It just means that you get where ever you are going harder. Which is great if you get to the right place. Since 90% of football fans have no idea what a run fit is or who is responsible for what on this defense, we think because he gets there quickly and lets everyone know he got there that he is better.

You just don't like Young because you think you know what he is supposed to do. Yet time and time again last year, Ruud would say that Young graded out better than others.

It's cool to think that way, but as I said before, your opinion doesn't make it true, it just makes it your opinion.

I believe Young just reached his potential at an earlier age than others. Once you max out, you don't make large gains year after year. I have seen countless players down here in Texas that max out early in college. The training they receive on the high school level is so much higher than most other states that when they get to college, they are as good or nearly as good as they are going to get.
Run fits aren't that hard to understand. Yes, most fans don't know what it is, nor do they really need to. It was obvious to see that Mo was able to make good football plays and Young wasn't for the most part. Filling the right gap or making the right read doesn't always mean you're doing the right thing. You should know your responsibilities yes, but you should also know when you can cheat that responsibility to make a play on the ball. Mo knows how to do that and still play his responsibility while it looked like Young was blindly running to a spot half the time. Maybe that was how the play was drawn up but you also need to understand leverage and the best way to get around blocks instead of just blindly running to a spot.

And I dispute that Young was always making the right reads and run fits, because many times he wasn't. Barry made plenty of mistakes too but a lot of times he was able to make up for them, or made a great play to put us in a good position whereas Young rarely did that.
 

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Inside linebacker Dedrick Young signed with the Cleveland Browns. Young ran a 4.51 in the 40 at Nebraska's Pro Day, and finished his Husker career among the Top 10 tacklers in program history.

I guess he wasn't as bad as many of the posters thought!!
Yeah the posters drug him through the mud all last season.
 

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Run fits aren't that hard to understand. Yes, most fans don't know what it is, nor do they really need to. It was obvious to see that Mo was able to make good football plays and Young wasn't for the most part. Filling the right gap or making the right read doesn't always mean you're doing the right thing. You should know your responsibilities yes, but you should also know when you can cheat that responsibility to make a play on the ball. Mo knows how to do that and still play his responsibility while it looked like Young was blindly running to a spot half the time. Maybe that was how the play was drawn up but you also need to understand leverage and the best way to get around blocks instead of just blindly running to a spot.

And I dispute that Young was always making the right reads and run fits, because many times he wasn't. Barry made plenty of mistakes too but a lot of times he was able to make up for them, or made a great play to put us in a good position whereas Young rarely did that.

Brotha you are trying so hard to kick and beat Young down I actually lost a little respect seeing you TRY so hard just in this thread alone (more of point then actually losing respect for you). Trust me, if he was as bad as your trying to make him out to be, Frost would have benched him and I don’t think a NFL team would have signed him. I’m not saying he’s great, Elite or anything like that. He just wasn’t bad nor elite.
 
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