Declassified FISA within weeks
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She suffering Postpartum Depression...... Personal strain of TDS
More like "relativism redaction relapse" happens when things you thought were there don't appear. Like other evidence allegedly presented to a FISA court to illegally spy on innocent Americans. [eyeroll]
I hope it’s true. Would be great to see it, but I thought he was waiting until the IG report was concluded?
Whenever it comes out, you'll just say it was released only to make Trump look good to his supporters and the other "evidence" was deliberately hidden. [eyeroll]
It’s pretty straightforward, either the app was based solely on the dossier, or there was other legitimate information that warranted the surveillance, unless redacted there can’t be any hiding anything.
Check that special watch you wear for updates. Liking a dick and being dick are not good. I'm sure mommy told you that much, before she dropped off a cliff.
You're 100%, absolutely, positively, irrefutably, correct boomer! But you don't believe in absolutes do 'ya my man?
Nope.
So you'll parse whatever else is NOT on those FISA warrant applications because we already know there is nothing else on them! Andrew McCabe has already told you that, (no dossier, no warrant) but you didn't listen to him when he said that did 'ya?
Nope!
What will change?
Please.
“We started the investigations without the dossier. We were proceeding with the investigations before we ever received that information,” McCabe told CNN. “Was the dossier material important to the [FISA] package? Of course, it was. As was every fact included in that package. Was it the majority of what was in the package? Absolutely not.”
I’m just tired of all the “dumbass should know this, and dumbass should know that” crap from both sides. I’m satisfied with the Mueller Report. I’d like to see the declassified FISA, and is like Mueller to testify. I await the findings of the IG, and the investigations into the Clinton Foundation and U-1.
I have no doubt there are some crooked people in DC, in the FBI, in the DOD, in the DNC and the RNC, but I also will not allow any one source of information dictate what I think of anything. When the information starts getting to me unfettered, only then can I know the truth for sure. Until then, I guess, and it’s a pretty good guess that Donald Trump has no integrity at all. And I think it’s a pretty good guess that at least some of the men and women that make up the FBI, the DOD, the Federal Court system, and Congress have some.
EXCEPT boomer my relative friend...the FISA court was NOT informed of the facts regarding the dossier's origins or corroborated evidence or funding! We also were NEVER told what else was in the application package to support the spying, but we do know at least part of it was simply media fed "fake news" accounts based on the very same fake unverified dossier! Nice.
kay:Any other evidence on those applications remains a mystery to this day and will probably remain so until Trump releases the full 302s.
On the app I read, they wereEXCEPT boomer my relative friend...the FISA court was NOT informed of the facts regarding the dossier's origins or corroborated evidence or funding! We also were NEVER told what else was in the application package to support the spying, but we do know at least part of it was simply media fed "fake news" accounts based on the very same fake unverified dossier! Nice.
Any other evidence on those applications remains a mystery to this day and will probably remain so until Trump releases the full 302s.
Check that special watch you wear for updates. Liking a dick and being dick are not good. I'm sure mommy told you that much, before she dropped off a cliff.
You're bad at this.
It doesnt matter if it was based solely on the dossier or 1% ob the dossier. Using a lie to get a FISA warrant is criminal.
You are going to get pasted over the next few months and when you start crying about everyone mocking you remember comments like that because you asked for what you are going to get.
Well I'll tell you what boomer, you sure don't believe in absolutes but I absolutely guarantee you one of us is wrong!
There either was corroborated and substantiated alternative evidence submitted to that FISA court on the warrant application along with that unverified and uncorroborated dossier or there was not. This is not a relative question because it sits at the heart of whether there was a legitimate reason to spy on Trump's campaign or if it was part of a giant conspiracy to frame him for "collusion" in order to remove him from office?
I believe it was the latter and you are convinced it was the former, but as I said we both cannot be right. This isn't your relative world where Truth is what you think it is boom, this is the real world where Truth is what actually happened.
We'll see which one of us is grounded in the Truth?
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It would help if someone in Obama's DOJ could at least tell us what the "national security threat" was facing Trump since he certainly wasn't told before they decided to snoop on him and his campaign. [eyeroll]
Then you're the only one who read it because I haven't seen dookey squat of what else was on those FISA applications as corroborated evidence besides that fake *** uncorroborated dossier? Link me!
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That's not "evidence" boomer banger! Those were names or sources protected for whatever reasons they need to be protected. What are you reading?
Oh yes it is! You CANNOT misrepresent facts or evidence presented on one of those FISA warrant applications! It all has to be verified, and backed up with hard corroborated evidence. And it sure as sh*t ALL better be legit or your *** is grass with that court!
It is exactly accurate. FISA court has very strict standards. Dont question me in your ignorance. Read for yourself before you make a fool of yourself.
Isn't it amazing Dave how delusional fantasies on the Left inevitably lead to their mindless thought processes?
Just pure idiocy when they argue what they clearly have no clue about.
Geesh!!!!!
DISTRACTION!
You are so correct--releasing these extremely important, meaningful documents distracts from the garbage nonsense, information lacking trash we have beard for nearly 3 years from the left.Concentration on real fact and not made up fantasy will be wholly refreshing and so educationally confirming that which has been available from true journalistic investigation by several on the right.
Sounds familiar. #releasethememo
Havent you figured it out yet? Trump wants to focus on something else so he says he going to do something his base loves the idea of, then he either never does it or when he does it is a dud. I have been hearing about how these documents are getting released for two years, I'm still waiting.
Actually he was warned about Russians attempting to infiltrate people in his campaign.
Why, pray tell, do you think the NYT hasn’t released the FISA? They’ve had it for 2 years in its unredacted entirety.
So you're saying he was warned, given the names of the targets for the infiltration, then miked up, then provided regular updates on the counterespionage surveillance to protect himself, the nation's "security risk", as well as smoke out the mole(s)?
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Why haven't we also been told what other evidence was presented to the FISA court to get the warrants? Why has that been kept such a big secret?