Dave Rimington comments

Clemke32

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I just hope there is real competition at quarterback and not Frost being loyal to Martinez.
Translation: “Luke, better be starting or HCSF doesn’t run legit competitions” o_O

how bout we say hopefully the team is improved next year.
 

Wyldcard

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My bet is still on Vedral being the backup this year as the only ones that know this offense better than him are the coaches as he is now is in year 4 of this offense and Vedral also has better arm and faster blinkers than McCaffrey as well. The only reason Luke played as much as he did this year was Noah got hurt. When Noah was in there, he operated it at the light speed tempo that it was designed to operate at which was way, way faster than AM and LM. Noah also pretty much knows Scott's entire playbook and knows way more than any QB on the roster. So Instead of making stupid snarky comments, do yourselves a favor and go back and watch and learn something!
 
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oldjar07

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Martinez likely had a torn labrum in his left shoulder. Those aren’t necessarily debilitating but could certainly explain his hesitation to run and make contact. Can be very painful. Also had a knee injury that we all saw happen. Bad snaps didn’t help and the line was very poor early on, especially at run blocking. Mills took a while to establish himself. All of this contributed to Adrian having a rough go. The thing that worries me some is that he didn’t see open guys and was late delivering the ball a lot. I think his accuracy will improve with his health.
Adrian was hesitant all year. He didn't injure his shoulder until the Purdue game. What explains his hesitation before the Purdue game?
 

dinglefritz

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Adrian was hesitant all year. He didn't injure his shoulder until the Purdue game. What explains his hesitation before the Purdue game?
I don't believe that is true. I've heard that he actually hurt his shoulder in fall camp and aggravated it in the Purdue game. The second insult is usually worse. Been there. Done that.
 

Husker Red 182

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My bet is still on Vedral being the backup this year as the only ones that know this offense better than him are the coaches as he is now is in year 4 of this offense and Vedral also has better arm and faster blinkers than McCaffrey as well. The only reason Luke played as much as he did this year was Noah got hurt. When Noah was in there, he operated it at the light speed tempo that it was designed to operate at which was way, way faster than AM and LM. Noah also pretty much knows Scott's entire playbook and knows way more than any QB on the roster. So Instead of making stupid snarky comments, do yourselves a favor and go back and watch and learn something!
If vedral truly knows the offense so well, why did we run vanilla **** when he started? I don’t buy that narrative.
 

oldjar07

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If vedral truly knows the offense so well, why did we run vanilla **** when he started? I don’t buy that narrative.
It's a natural tendency for coaches to do that when they play a backup. I don't think it was necessary and it probably did more harm than good, but Frost seemed to be trying to protect the backups with his vanilla calls.
 

TruHusker

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I don't believe that is true. I've heard that he actually hurt his shoulder in fall camp and aggravated it in the Purdue game. The second insult is usually worse. Been there. Done that.

Yea, seems like lots of people "heard" something. How about factual information, that would be interesting.
 

timnsun

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Yea, seems like lots of people "heard" something. How about factual information, that would be interesting.
He hurt his shoulder before the season began. Fact.

Happy now?

I love how he was a really good player last year that impressed us all (except Nikki), and his struggles this year can’t be due to injury. He just forgot how to play.
 

TruHusker

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He hurt his shoulder before the season began. Fact.

Happy now?

I love how he was a really good player last year that impressed us all (except Nikki), and his struggles this year can’t be due to injury. He just forgot how to play.

I have seen speculation all over the place. Left shoulder at Purdue, now it was before the season even started. So you question me questioning possible rumors.Wonderful. So no, I am not happy now until you can provide evidence, a link to something Frost said perhaps. If it was documented then I missed it. Did you get coal for Christmas or what?
 

spinner4_rivals42045

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Martinez likely had a torn labrum in his left shoulder. Those aren’t necessarily debilitating but could certainly explain his hesitation to run and make contact. Can be very painful. Also had a knee injury that we all saw happen. Bad snaps didn’t help and the line was very poor early on, especially at run blocking. Mills took a while to establish himself. All of this contributed to Adrian having a rough go. The thing that worries me some is that he didn’t see open guys and was late delivering the ball a lot. I think his accuracy will improve with his health.
I can chalk some mistakes Adrian made to injuries and live with them. But my concern about AM was his hesitation in the passing game. He processed too slow last season. 3 seconds can be the difference between a wide open TD pass to an interception. We saw that way too much last season. And that’s either the coaching has him thinking too much about reading defenses or he’s mentally too slow. And both are very alarming
 

timnsun

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I have seen speculation all over the place. Left shoulder at Purdue, now it was before the season even started. So you question me questioning possible rumors.Wonderful. So no, I am not happy now until you can provide evidence, a link to something Frost said perhaps. If it was documented then I missed it. Did you get coal for Christmas or what?
Nah, all good, just don’t appreciate the garbage directed at AM. Frost keeps it close to the vest... not sure when the injury occurred. He was a freshman all American, a preseason heisman candidate (hype, obviously), and someone that many had high hopes for. But this year was different. And there is a very vocal crowd that says he sucks and injuries aren’t a valid reason for his struggles this year.

So when word comes out that he may have dealt with injuries throughout the season, which would explain his struggles, a bunch of internet football experts claim that they know better, it gets old.

Maybe you’re not claiming that, and if not, apologies. But it’s gonna be a long offseason listening to the football experts that know football better than Frost, the same experts who know Frost won’t give anyone else a fair shake.
 

TruHusker

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Nah, all good, just don’t appreciate the garbage directed at AM. Frost keeps it close to the vest... not sure when the injury occurred. He was a freshman all American, a preseason heisman candidate (hype, obviously), and someone that many had high hopes for. But this year was different. And there is a very vocal crowd that says he sucks and injuries aren’t a valid reason for his struggles this year.

I do my best to not call out players. I don't play the game of saying who should be playing more and starting and all that. I have had too many parents in my office asking why why Johnnie or Suzie don't play more claiming it's the coaches bias and are they too stupid to know who should be playing. Coaches are around these kids nearly day and night, they get paid a lot money to make those decisions. I don't. These kids also get screened by medical staff so it isn't the coach making the decision to play or not. I can't believe a coach would put a player at risk for more injury just for a W when he has adequate back ups. Makes no sense.

I am also not one to speculate on what is going on. It's obvious Martinez didn't have the year many expected and everyone can guess as to why. I did give an opinion in other posts and stated that it was just my opinion, no facts. Big difference. Any number of players have had or will have off season surgery. But that doesn't mean that surgery was needed to make them play better, it could be a nuisance type thing. I saw it often in HS with kids. Regardles, for people to say that AMs struggles were due to injury can't tell me what the injury was and when it occured. Whatever the injury is/was he will be back out in the spring which is only about 3 months healing time, that is not a major surgery I would think.

So when word comes out that he may have dealt with injuries throughout the season, which could explain his struggles, a bunch of internet football experts claim that they know better, it gets old. I remember one post on here about Robinson having a possible broken leg or some such deal.

For me, the "supposed" injury does not explain everything but if that makes some feel better about things then fine. I have not heard when the injury occured, what body part and how it affected his game. Pure and simple.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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I have seen speculation all over the place. Left shoulder at Purdue, now it was before the season even started. So you question me questioning possible rumors.Wonderful. So no, I am not happy now until you can provide evidence, a link to something Frost said perhaps. If it was documented then I missed it. Did you get coal for Christmas or what?
SF was lying because? He said it.
 

TruHusker

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SF was lying because? He said it.

He said he had surgery. That was it unless I missed something. Doesn't say on what or how complex. So maybe you can shed some light and tell us all? Was it on a leg, shoulder, finger, etc and then what side of his body?

Frost also said he would be back in the spring which is not very far away so how complex was this surgery?
 

NorthwoodHusker

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He said he had surgery. That was it unless I missed something. Doesn't say on what or how complex. So maybe you can shed some light and tell us all? Was it on a leg, shoulder, finger, etc and then what side of his body?

Frost also said he would be back in the spring which is not very far away so how complex was this surgery?
Is that all he said? Was it his brain, would that make him a tough player to SF, his toe? Hangnails?
My guess is, it was something that made AM have to be tough to keep answering that bell.

Speculation is fine, but I've seen others wanting a coach out recovering from cancer and cancer treatment.
My suggestion is, he played one way one year, another the next. We knew he was injured somehow,somewhen. So, let it play out. Life isn't always an open highway.
 

dinglefritz

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He said he had surgery. That was it unless I missed something. Doesn't say on what or how complex. So maybe you can shed some light and tell us all? Was it on a leg, shoulder, finger, etc and then what side of his body?

Frost also said he would be back in the spring which is not very far away so how complex was this surgery?
Earlier Frost said that AM had been dealing with injurieS all season. Not AN injury, but injurieS as in more than one. The person that I heard he had been injured in fall camp from has reason to know so I believe it to be factual.
 

TruHusker

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Earlier Frost said that AM had been dealing with injurieS all season. Not AN injury, but injurieS as in more than one. The person that I heard he had been injured in fall camp from has reason to know so I believe it to be factual.

Show me a college FB player that doesn't have injurieS after a long season. At sometime we had all three top QB's hurt this year. Being injured in fall camp means what? It affected his entire year? It was major enough he couldn't take a hit, run or throw? Big difference there.

I love the kid and he represents the college well. I am not going to bash him or demand my fan rights to have a fair battle for the position, but at the same time I will withhold judgement as to why until it is factual and not just "I heard" or "Frost said he had surgery", whatever that was.

One thing I am certain of, the spring is going to be full of drama and stories about lots of position changes and challenges. Now throw in Logan and it should be interesting.
 

oldjar07

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People react to injuries differently and it affects some kids more than others, but AM made bad decisions all year. If AM is unable to throw seam passes on a dime to run the offense, then maybe we could have worked on the short passing game across the middle to help him out. The fact that we didn't do that is concerning both of the coaching staff and AM not being able to make any adjustments.