Dannis Jackson Commits

TheStateUofMS

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There was a picture on Twitter with Black, Jarrian Jones and Dannis Jackson all together, so Black may flip at 7:30 although he'll be good for recruiting others and for recruiting rankings because he's JUCO bound.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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Another visit to "Not A Fan's Ten Thoughts" from last weekend says

Neal = Yancy

Nathan Pickering continues to visit other schools, and appears destined to leave the state as well. Nakobe Dean just wrapped up an official visit at
Alabama, and is rumored to be close to finalizing a return visit to Auburn. He also has been to UGA twice in the last two weeks. Who will Ole Miss look to gain commitments from between now and the end of the summer?

It begins with the WR position, where both Dannis Jackson and Jonathan Mingo are expected to be close to a final decision. Ole Miss is the projected destination for both of them currently.
 
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Can someone convince me why we should be so gung ho about getting Black committed after the flip stunt he already pulled and the fact he's JUCO bound?
 

TheStateUofMS

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Hey there Rebel. Hope you're having a lovely day.

He's important bc of the reason I stated above. Like Jarrian Jones, he'll recruit other players to State. He'll help the rankings and hopefully be suiting up for Maroon and White in 2 years.
 

SyonaraStanz

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Hey there Rebel. Hope you're having a lovely day.

He's important bc of the reason I stated above. Like Jarrian Jones, he'll recruit other players to State. He'll help the rankings and hopefully be suiting up for Maroon and White in 2 years.

So nooowww we're concerned with recruiting rankings?
 

aTotal360

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This is funny...

 

MSUDawgFan86

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Moorhead is just being ridiculous right now on the recruiting front. He is a stud recruiter and I Believe will prove to be a much better coach in every way than Mullen. We all convinced ourselves and were lead to believe that there was a limit on how well we could recruit bc we are Mississippi State. When in all actuality Mullen and staff could have been doing this the whole time but were lazy as hell, disinterested, and weren’t good recruiters.
 

deadheaddawg

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So nooowww we're concerned with recruiting rankings?

We'd be silly not to. I never got involved with bashing ole Miss recruiting rankings. While it's true that not ever team that recruits elites talent wins big, but if you want to win championships you better recruit elite talent



History shows national titles without elite recruiting over 4 years is rare

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sa...at-not-just-good-recruiting-over-4-years/amp/


-11 of the 14 national champions averaged a top 10 recruiting class in the four years leading up to them winning the crown.

Nearly half (six of 14) averaged a top five class.

-Five of the last six have averaged a top six class or better.
 
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Chesusdog

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So nooowww we're concerned with recruiting rankings?

There's nothing wrong with taking pride in a strong recruiting class. We mock UM because they seem to care more about winning signing day than winning on the field. And all their success on signing day accounted for absolutely nothing of note or value.
 

PreacherDog

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I agree that this staff seems to have made recruiting a priority. It helps this is the best class the state of Mississippi has ever had. Mullen did a good job of getting in state talent to stay so we don't know if a number of these guys still might have ended up here. But these are only commitments that don't really mean anything at this point and a lot can change in the next 6 months. I hope we can build on what Mullen has done here and that is what Moorhead is trying to do. Take us to the next level.
 

Len2003

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I never fully believed what Mullen was saying about not being able to recruit to State. Reason is because other sports have been able to get elite recruits. All these other sports on campus have been able to get 5 star recruits. Hell, the men’s tennis coach got one of the top rated players in the world to come here from effing Portugal. You’re telling me Mullen couldn’t get a 4 star recruit from our own state to come here? And how dumb to blame it on Starkville. Has anyone seen the crap hole that is Tuscaloosa? The town has nothing to do with it.

When Mullen said that FL recruits itself that sounded perfect for him. He thinks he won’t have to do anything, and the kids will just be lined up. Mullen is a very good coach, no doubt, be he was not worth his salary. Moorhead made the point that we’ve only had 1 SEC winning season in recent years, which is just sad. I’m glad he’s coming in here talking about championships. It’s about time we had someone do that with this program. I love that he didn’t want the Gator Bowl trophy carted around on that speaking tour.
 
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o_Hot Rock

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Can someone convince me why we should be so gung ho about getting Black committed after the flip stunt he already pulled and the fact he's JUCO bound?

Are you sure you aren't an Ole Miss troll? reasons why you want a top rated player that has multiple flips on your commit list

1) He is damn good
2) He is damn good
3) His grades may be an issue but he still has a year to get that fixed and he just may make it. Stranger things have happened.
4) Even if he doesn't, players that sign with you and go to JuCo have a better chance of coming later
5) He is damn good... did I mention that

If a 2 star flips and flops about no one even notices, but heaven forbid a high school 17/18 year old has a little trouble figuring out where he should go. I know I didn't have a clue at that age.

OH, did I mention, "He is damn good."

I still want him, even if he didn't commit last night.
 

RocketDawg

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Mullen himself came across as arrogant, and best I can tell, he was. Moorhead does not seem to have that handicap. Personalities go a long way convincing players to play for you. It doesn't matter if you're from the North or the South; what matters is if you're a prick or not. We as a fan base protected Mullen's being a jerk because he was ours.
 

Seinfeld

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This is something that frustrated me to no end with Mullen and his staff. Coming out of the Croom years, I think that Mullen did a fantastic job getting recruits and fans to believe that this could be a winning program, and he worked his tail off to build something.

However, following the magical ride we all took to #1 in 2013, that was a golden opportunity to position State into a perennial Top 5 SEC team, and rather than do that, it’s like Dan was just happy with his achievement and he was ready to move on. If Dak had not returned for his senior year, I still believe that Mullen was ready at that point to take the first job out of town, and he blew a golden opportunity. Now, the laziness seems to have set in, and it will be interesting to see just how long Florida puts up with it
 

TheStateUofMS

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Not really, I listed other reasons as well. Way to grab onto the least relevant one.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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We are in Starkville staying at the HGI. My wife and a family friend are doing the Women’s Football Clinic. I can tell you the recruits that are staying here and visiting with their respective recruiter definitely pass the Eye Test.
 

mount lefroy

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We'd be silly not to. I never got involved with bashing ole Miss recruiting rankings. While it's true that not ever team that recruits elites talent wins big, but if you want to win championships you better recruit elite talent



History shows national titles without elite recruiting over 4 years is rare

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sa...at-not-just-good-recruiting-over-4-years/amp/


-11 of the 14 national champions averaged a top 10 recruiting class in the four years leading up to them winning the crown.

Nearly half (six of 14) averaged a top five class.

-Five of the last six have averaged a top six class or better.

Correlation/causation

After watching average recruiting rankings succeed and top classes fall on their face NUMEROUS times, the fact is that the coaching staff accentuates their talent or negates it to the point that the rankings are semi relevant at best.

Texas comes to mind. Notre Dame, Nebraska, There is no way they could have performed that poorly if the rankings were that accurate. Boise State, central Florida, and many others couldn’t make up the talent differential with coaching if they were that accurate

They are bait for magazines and websites.

If they were based on The results of how the class performed, I’d be all about looking at them.
 

BossDawg78

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Mullen himself came across as arrogant, and best I can tell, he was. Moorhead does not seem to have that handicap. Personalities go a long way convincing players to play for you. It doesn't matter if you're from the North or the South; what matters is if you're a prick or not. We as a fan base protected Mullen's being a jerk because he was ours.

Listen to Mullen speak and then listen to Moorhead. It's like night and day. Mullen used a lot of "uhs", "ahs", and "you knows" as filler when he spoke, as if he was unsure a lot of the time. Moorhead just comes across as squared away, smart and confident.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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I think you take ND and schools of that nature with a grain of salt. They are getting a lot of the “Bama bump” type kids. And with Texas, Texas HS football is such vastly superior to any other state that a lot of their kids are very well refined coming in college. You don’t get many Chris Jones or Dak type kids out of TX, so it’s hard to project them 4 years down the road. That’s always just been my opinion of why UT and aTm have always been at the top in February and average in September
 

JoMo MoJo

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Moorhead is just being ridiculous right now on the recruiting front. He is a stud recruiter and I Believe will prove to be a much better coach in every way than Mullen. We all convinced ourselves and were lead to believe that there was a limit on how well we could recruit bc we are Mississippi State. When in all actuality Mullen and staff could have been doing this the whole time but were lazy as hell, disinterested, and weren’t good recruiters.
And the Florida people are losing their **** over it. tRant has been fun read the last 24 hours. They were convinced that Mullen couldn’t recruit TO Mississippi State because of the school.
 
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