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Missing his two best players, and-according to the announcers-down to a 6 man rotation, URI is up 13 at 22 win Dayton.

Might not hold, but URI is playing really smart ball and really tough defense.
 

B1GNJHoops

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Hurley would win here.

Rutgers fans wants a slam dunk.

Short of a slam dunk, I'd prefer Hurley. It's funny because it's Rutgers that has to sell Hurley not the other way around.

First time HC's are even riskier. So, yeah.
 

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Not sure if Hurley is a sure thing or not, but I do know we would be ranked higher than 301 with Hurley.
 

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Hurley would win here.

Rutgers fans wants a slam dunk.

Short of a slam dunk, I'd prefer Hurley. It's funny because it's Rutgers that has to sell Hurley not the other way around.

First time HC's are even riskier. So, yeah.
Hurley should have been our HC already!
 
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SkilletHead2

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Several problems with Hurley. One is temperament. After Rice and Hill, we don't have the luxury of hiring someone with a history there. Two is that we already offered and he turned us down. This clearly isn't his dream job. If he is successful, what's to keep him from leaving for the first good suitor. Three is that his record isn't all that good. Don't need middle of the A-10 level coaching.

Doesn't add up.
 
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MADHAT1

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Hurley should have been our HC already!
Didn't want the job and now isn't as hot as he once was.
Probably take the same offer now that Rutgers gave him before.
Rhode Island was a pretty good program under Jim Baron the 4 years before the one that got him fired.
Danny had one good season there and isn't a lock to be a program builder , just because he probably be better than Eddie.

Hurley's luster has worn off and he'd be a big gamble if RU hired him.
All new HCs are gambles, but Danny hasn't proved he can build a program or keep his program on top after it gets there.
 
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B1GNJHoops

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Didn't want the job and now isn't as hot as he once was.
Probably take the same offer now that Rutgers gave him before.
Rhode Island was a pretty good program under Jim Baron the 4 years before the one that got him fired.
Danny had one good season there and isn't a lock to be a program builder , just because he probably be better than Eddie.

Hurley's luster has worn off and he'd be a big gamble if RU hired him.
All new HCs are gambles, but Danny hasn't proved he can build a program or keep his program on top after it gets there.

Not sure that's fair. You mentioned Hobbs looking into a Tom Izzo assistant who's never led a program let alone post 20-win seasons at two spots.

After "established" guys, he's a great choice but I understand why people have reservations because of his temperament. He would need to work on that.

Rhode Island's having good season when you consider their injuries.

I also understand people will see what they want in a candidate, and the Hurley name divides a lot people in New Jersey. A first time HC over Hurley, however, would be foolish and unnecessary.

Want to land Amaker, Sendek, Lonergan or Greenberg first? I'm fine with it.

But you won't see a coach who's as good a fit from the non-P5 conferences. Mark Schmidt does a great job at St. Bonaventure but I'd worry about him being an outsider and not as good of a recruiter.
 
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SkilletHead2

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Good points B1G. And if it is Hurley, I'll back him (I'm sure that will come as a huge relief to him).
 

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Greenberg over Hurley? Only if you don't know how things are.

Danny is likely not gettable for us. It's funny people wouldn't want him. A win like he had Saturday hasn't happen at Rutgers in 25 years (road conference win vs ranked opponent).
 

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Greenberg over Hurley? Only if you don't know how things are.

Danny is likely not gettable for us. It's funny people wouldn't want him. A win like he had Saturday hasn't happen at Rutgers in 25 years (road conference win vs ranked opponent).


Lol.

I personally don't feel that way re: Greenberg>Hurley, but it made it easier for me to explain my position. In a scenario where we missed on four "established guys", would they consider Hurley over the rest of the field. I don't think that's the order Hobbs will have the, but for the sake of argument.

Zags and Braziller feel Hurley will stay at Rhody another year because he has a top 25 team.
 
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ruman

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Seth Greenberg is very low on my list, but he's 10x the college coach then what we currently have
 
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Greenberg over Hurley? Only if you don't know how things are.

Danny is likely not gettable for us. It's funny people wouldn't want him. A win like he had Saturday hasn't happen at Rutgers in 25 years (road conference win vs ranked opponent).

You forgot about blitzing Pittsburgh under Fred Hill. Great win about a decade ago.
 

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Greenberg doesn't really give us someone who will be here long term. He would be on a "no thanks" list for me, but surely a guy who is sub .500 in the A-10 and has never been to the NCAAs (and isn't going there this year), has been to the NITs once (second round) would be on that "no thanks" list as well. Just don't see it.
 
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MADHAT1

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Not sure that's fair. You mentioned Hobbs looking into a Tom Izzo assistant who's never led a program let alone post 20-win seasons at two spots.

After "established" guys, he's a great choice but I understand why people have reservations because of his temperament. He would need to work on that.

Rhode Island's having good season when you consider their injuries.

I also understand people will see what they want in a candidate, and the Hurley name divides a lot people in New Jersey. A first time HC over Hurley, however, would be foolish and unnecessary.

Want to land Amaker, Sendek, Lonergan or Greenberg first? I'm fine with it.

But you won't see a coach who's as good a fit from the non-P5 conferences. Mark Schmidt does a great job at St. Bonaventure but I'd worry about him being an outsider and not as good of a recruiter.
And if you remember, I gave reasons why he wouldn't be a slam dunk hire and making RU a winner, the shape it is now and how bad it has been, probably would be to much for a first time HC .
I posted his name in light of how Hobbs went the assistant route instead of a up and coming mid major HC when he hired Ash.
The difference, I know, is the shape RU MBB is and how RU FB is.
One needs an upgrade in how the program is run by the HC and the other a total rebuild.

Needless to say, the total rebuild shouldn't be trusted to a HC that doesn't have HCing experience. Also shouldn't be trusted to a HC that really hasn't shown much after taking over a fairly good program that had a terrible year that was the reason he was hired.
3 years before having a good season then regressed the next isn't a ringing endorsement for anyone that has to do what it takes to fix the RU MBB program.
In a pinch that person might be hired or an assistant like I mentioned . Either way I would support them or if one of the were hired or whoever Hobbs brings in for the job.
I wouldn't look for reasons, like I'm doing now, why they would fail, but would look for the reasons why they would succeed.
 
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Mark Schmidt would be an excellent hire if interested-----does a great job at a place where it's hard to get players to go .
 

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Mark Schmidt would be an excellent hire if interested-----does a great job at a place where it's hard to get players to go .

That rarely translates. Need a guy who has experience recruiting at a high level. See Steve Donahue Cornell coach who flamed out at BC. Lots of other examples.
 

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That rarely translates. Need a guy who has experience recruiting at a high level. See Steve Donahue Cornell coach who flamed out at BC. Lots of other examples.
Jim Calhoun didn't work. Nor did
Bo Ryan. Or Greg Marshall etc....
 

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Jim Calhoun didn't work. Nor did
Bo Ryan. Or Greg Marshall etc....

Your point that hiring from smaller schools like Northeastern, Winthrop, etc can be successful is valid. But I would not use those three in any comparison with Schmidt. He does not have a resume anywhere in the vicinity of what those three had when they were hired.

I'd be very disappointed in hiring Schmidt.
 
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ru66

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how's amaker doing lately? too many on here make premature judgements
 

KnightDC

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Jim Calhoun didn't work. Nor did
Bo Ryan. Or Greg Marshall etc....
Ryan spent time as an assitant at wisky

Cant compare. Marshall isnt recruting in p5 league and calhoun went from neastern to uconvict in a much different era when aau influence was nowhere near what is was. If next coach lacks experience as hc or ac from a high major ru is doomed.
 

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Greenberg over Hurley? Only if you don't know how things are.

Danny is likely not gettable for us. It's funny people wouldn't want him. A win like he had Saturday hasn't happen at Rutgers in 25 years (road conference win vs ranked opponent).


this is so true and shows how misinformed most of our fanbase is on the college landscape
 

bac2therac

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Greenberg doesn't really give us someone who will be here long term. He would be on a "no thanks" list for me, but surely a guy who is sub .500 in the A-10 and has never been to the NCAAs (and isn't going there this year), has been to the NITs once (second round) would be on that "no thanks" list as well. Just don't see it.


I definitely do not want Greenberg
 

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Greenberg like it or not has a national following. Dayton has been struggling big time.