According to schefty. No big surprise, I guess.
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Dak likely getting tagged
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I wish they’d have gone in a different direction but what’s the fuss about McCarthy? Under achiever?
Lol Dallas is being a bunch of dumbasses. He’s just gonna cost more later. Haha the market doesn’t go down. It only goes up.
Dak's team is really playing high stakes poker. I hope he gets the biggest contract in history, but they are really rolling the dice
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I don't get it either. If Dallas doesn't see him as their franchise QB for the next 5-7 years, that's fine, but make a damn decision. He finished 10th in passer rating and 4th in ESPN's total QB rating which is allegedly the more all-encompassing figure. What more are they hoping to see? Not to mention that if he does move his way up to being a comprehensive Top 5 QB, like you said... he's only going to cost more this time next year.
Dallas did nothing but kick the can down the road, and regardless of what Dak says publically, I guarantee you that he is becoming irritated.
Dallas did nothing but kick the can down the road, and regardless of what Dak says publically, I guarantee you that he is becoming irritated.
I hate it for Dak, he deserves better. But when the Jones stupidly gave Zeke a 6 year deal 2 years before they had to, this move was inevitable if they also hoped to bring Cooper back. There will be a new CBA after the 2020 season in which the Salary Cap will be raised a good bit giving the ‘boys or another team the money they need to pay Dak what he deserves AND still put good weapons around him. But this doesn’t happen if they don’t cave on Zeke.
I think Dak is asking for a 4 year deal where Dallas wants to lock him up for a longer term before Mahomes resets the market. Dallas has low balled him below Goff and Wentz money every time even though Dak has outperformed those guys. Dallas is throwing out the rumors that Dak wants that money to keep the fans on the Jones side rather than Dak's side of things. Jerry is probably one of the worst owners in sports when it comes to making good long term decisions. If everyone wasn't against it, Jerry would have drafted Johnny Football and then the total collapse of Dallas football would have been complete.
Jerry shoulda told Zeke to kick rocks until his contract was up or go ahead and sit out. Jerry has screwed up again
Yep, only thing I can add to that is that they are paying their O line as if it’s an all-decade group of guys, but it’s just not. It’s a Top 10 line(when healthy), and nothing more. Problem is that Jones is paying $58M to those 5 guys, and that combined with Zeke’s deal is the biggest reason as to why they don’t have money for other positions. It’s ridiculous that their cap issues are in any way being pinned on Dak
This is correct. In all likelihood, Dak would sign right now for 4 years / $132-$136 million with about $90-$100m guaranteed. And he’s worth that at a minimum. Jerry is being a dick per usual and insisting on like a 6 or 7 year extension, just like he did with Elliot, even though none of the recent extensions with Goff, Wilson, or Wentz went over 4 years. Jerry’s MO is maintaining team control over any given asset for as long as possible, which always ends up 17ing over the players. Read about the **** deal that Tyron Smith got for more info on this.
If I’m Dak (or his agent), I’m making it known that I’ll be sitting the max amount of time possible where a season can still be accumulated, then sign the franchise tender. Should be Week 9 or 10, and he’d still make $15-$17 million. A Dak-less Dallas will already be out of the playoff hunt by that time, guaranteed. Jerry won’t try the tag again after that, and he’ll have to pay him his fair market amount or let him walk. We’d definitely see how big Jerry’s balls are if Dak has not signed the tender or reported by Week 1.
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They can franchise tag him 2 years, then transition tag him a 3rd year which essentially allows him to hit the open market and force Dallas to match any offer.
It’s possible but I doubt teams drafting early enough to get one of the top 3-4 QB’s in this draft would trade them for a QB that they only have one year of control.
Same thing happened to Kirk Cousins. I think the first tag will pay Dak around $32-$35 Mil. If they tag him again then it goes up to almost $40 Mil.
Me too, but I have been a Bears fan long enough to know they will never make the right decisions when it comes to QBs.
The curse of Red Grange lives!
Does the NFL not have something equivalent to the NBA's sign and trade (I know that's been limited as far as the cap flexibility it used to give)?
Nobody is “upset” except for possibly Dak....only he knows for sure what he wants. But he definitely deserves more than $32 million, and at this point has no incentive to sign for anything less than the tag amount which will be $34 million plus, depending on when Mahomes gets his big payday and how its structured. Dak could have the worst year of his career next season and still be worth $34-$35 million per year with the new salary cap rules plus the ability to hit the open market if Dallas doesn’t sign him for a long term deal. He’s been statistically better than Wentz and Goff in just about every facet over the course of all of their 4-year careers, and each of the other 2 got $32-$36 million per year in new money. Goff got $33.5 per year and Wentz is minimum of $32 million with incentives up to $36 million. That’s just where the market is even if you aren’t a Dak homer.
The other thing in play, as has already been mentioned, is the length of the deal. That’s what’s really holding everything up. Jerry would sign Dak to an 8-year, $35 million per year deal today. But that’s not fair to Dak because it locks him into the current market rate for the entire prime of his career. He would lose tens of millions by signing that. Reading between the lines, Dak wants the same normal extension length (4 years) that was given to Wilson, Wentz, and Goff for at or above current market rate. I don’t believe for one second he wants “Mahomes money”. The $40 million per year is likely what he told Jerry it would cost if he signed the long *** extension that Jerry wants.
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So that tells me he’s on pace to get close to what people are saying he’s worth
Assuming....
Decent year next year
$34 million next year
Signs a 4 year deal worth $35 to $40 plus million after that
I mean that’s not way off what people are saying he’s worth
Assuming....
Decent year next year
$34 million next year
Signs a 4 year deal worth $35 to $40 plus million after that
I mean that’s not way off what people are saying he’s worth
Again, the problem is the “4-year deal” part. Even though it’s standard for league as far as QB’s go, Jerry hates 4-year deals. He wants to lock in the market rate for 7-8 years. Dak is calling his bluff. It could be that he’s just waiting for the cap to go up after the next CBA before he locks into a big contract with Dak, but that could hurt him even more. I can guarantee you the Chiefs are going to hustle to the negotiating table with Mahomes and try to get a deal done quickly, because there’s no telling what his price will be after the new CBA agreement.
I’ll try
A team can franchise tag a player for one year and he cannot sign with anyone else, and the team has to pay him the average of the top 5 salaries at his position. Every subsequent year a team tags that player, the pay increases by about 30%. I think a team can only tag a player for 3 years, one at a time.
A tagged player can be traded as long as he signed the franchise tender. However, it would be an extremely dumb thing to do with a player of Dak’s caliber though. The team receiving the framchise player has control over that player for only the current season, so they are not going to offer up nearly what they normally would if it was a player that was under a long term deal. They can get a 2nd year for a hefty premium, but nothing after that is guaranteed. A team MIGHT trade like a 2nd round pick, or a washed up QB like a Cam Newton or Philip Rivers for Dak. Either would be exceptionally bad deals for Dallas.
That’s smart on Jerry’s part. If dak disagrees, he’ll have other options.
That’s the beauty of a free market.
That’s the beauty of a free market.