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acwill07

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Why don’t you ask Hank Aaron’s family or Marvin Hagler’s family. They both died the day after they got the shot. Have you forgotten that? This is the real world. You must open your eyes and do the research.

8,000 people die every day in the US. The vaccine did not kill Hank Aaron. Stop spreading misinformation. Good grief.
 

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Does it work as they originally said though? The original narrative was that it prevented it and mitigated the spread. Now it is to prevent severe illness. How do you mitigate the spread when fully vaccinated people are still getting it?
Less people are getting the virus than would have been the case had no one been vaccinated, and those that are the getting virus despite being vaccinated generally have milder symptoms. What other definition of mitigate do you have in mind?
 

Flat Rock`s Finest

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For not taking a non-FDA approved vaccine that no one knows the long term effects of?
I mean, to each his own but it should be a personal choice…
Yes it should be a personal choice. People that have been vaccinated are getting the virus left and right. A report just came out of the UK saying 40% of their people who are hospitalized for Covid have been fully vaccinated. Now we're up to 6 fully vaccinated Texas Democrats that got Covid after their publicity stunt of a plane ride to DC. Its not some life line and we will surely die without it like some of these idiots want us to believe.
 

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Just read the bottom line on ESPN right now... they are updating vaccinated athletes that have now contracted the virus and are going to miss the Olympics.
Exactly. The best thing that can happen to a healthy person is to get the virus and let their own immune system build up antibodies against it. We dont need a clown like Fauci or Biden to tell us that. It's just common sense.
 

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It ain’t right now…& I know several people, a couple right now, that have been “vaccinated” & have gotten Covid anyway…there’s really no evidence the shot even works at this point….so basically, people are taking a shot that doesn’t really protect them from anything & may have long term effects but no one knows bc it was only developed in the last year…I’m good…
Wow! Let me understand. There is proof that the vaccinations are 95% effective but you would rather not take a shot and put your self and others not vacinated at risk. I would be more worried about the long-term effects of Covid than the very very few people who have bad reactions to the shot
 

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Less people are getting the virus than would have been the case had no one been vaccinated, and those that are the getting virus despite being vaccinated generally have milder symptoms. What other definition of mitigate do you have in mind?
Are less people getting the virus though and if so how much less? We know less people are testing positive,less death,hospitalizations. We don’t know how many people vaccinated or not are walking around asymptomatic do we? Sure we know vaccinated people are less likely to transmit it but how much less? One of the talking points to get vaccinated was to stop the spread right? Where is the data to support that when it’s doubtful that vaccinated people who are infected are actually getting tested?
 

Flat Rock`s Finest

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So vaccines aren't effective because you can't comprehend the benefit of reducing the likelihood of a bad event by 60+%? Got it. And you're afraid of long term effects of American and German medical technology but not those of a Chinese lab leaked virus ? Got it.
And yall are running out to get an untested vaccine for a virus with a greater than 99% survival rate? Got it.
 

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Yes it should be a personal choice. People that have been vaccinated are getting the virus left and right. A report just came out of the UK saying 40% of their people who are hospitalized for Covid have been fully vaccinated. Now we're up to 6 fully vaccinated Texas Democrats that got Covid after their publicity stunt of a plane ride to DC. Its not some life line and we will surely die without it like some of these idiots want us to believe.

Is there a link to this report? CDC is reporting that 97% of symptomatic Covid infections are unvaccinated.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/16/covid-deaths-on-the-rise-again-after-weeks-of-decline-cdc-says.html

The CDC director also recently said that 99.5% of the people who died from Covid were unvaccinated.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...e-unvaccinated-data-suggests/?sh=31d8cb5b493d

You are correct in that it should be a personal choice but likely that those who remain unvaxxed will have less opportunities available to them as businesses continue to implement restrictions.
 

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Yep, if they don't want to they can find other jobs.
What I don’t get is if you feel so protected by the shot, then why do you care who else gets it? Why should you even care?? You’re protected, right?!

And this isn’t some political thing for me as the vaccine was developed & distributed on Trump’s watch…but I was never gonna take it regardless bc I just didn’t feel comfortable with it…but like I said, to each his own & congrats to you for taking the Trump vaccine…
 

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Is there a link to this report? CDC is reporting that 97% of symptomatic Covid infections are unvaccinated.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/16/covid-deaths-on-the-rise-again-after-weeks-of-decline-cdc-says.html

The CDC director also recently said that 99.5% of the people who died from Covid were unvaccinated.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...e-unvaccinated-data-suggests/?sh=31d8cb5b493d

You are correct in that it should be a personal choice but likely that those who remain unvaxxed will have less opportunities available to them as businesses continue to implement restrictions.
Fox news is actively enforcing restrictions for non vaccinated employees. Shocking
 

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The number of vaccine-related deaths has increased dramatically this year. According to the CDC's own data, in 2021, in the first 3 months, more than 1,750 vaccine deaths were registered on the VAERS website in the United States.
Last week, they reported 6,985 deaths, and this week this number has increased from 2,043 to 9,048.

Currently, there are 9125 deaths from vaccination in the United States as of 2021 (CDC data)

In addition, 1,505 deaths from COVID-19 were registered in the United States last week.

This means that there were more deaths from the Covid vaccine in the US last week than from Covid itself.

@WorldawakeningTrueNews. Here is some news that probably 99% of you are unaware of. I have not had the vaccine shot nor my wife and we do not intend to get it. When you do the research, we as the world are being told a lie about what the vaccine is doing to thousands upon thousands of people. This article that I have copied n pasted is from the CDC‘s own website that the news media will never tell you. If it means that Clemson loses every game this year, and I have been a tiger fan for over 60 years n gone to every playoff game for the last 5 years, I am willing for that to happen if it will save someone else’s life from taking the vaccine shot. We are about to experience an entire generation of not having children born from girls who are getting the shot. The government is eve deaths in one week. That's not apples to apples.

The number of vaccine-related deaths has increased dramatically this year. According to the CDC's own data, in 2021, in the first 3 months, more than 1,750 vaccine deaths were registered on the VAERS website in the United States.
Last week, they reported 6,985 deaths, and this week this number has increased from 2,043 to 9,048.

Currently, there are 9125 deaths from vaccination in the United States as of 2021 (CDC data)

In addition, 1,505 deaths from COVID-19 were registered in the United States last week.

This means that there were more deaths from the Covid vaccine in the US last week than from Covid itself.

@WorldawakeningTrueNews. Here is some news that probably 99% of you are unaware of. I have not had the vaccine shot nor my wife and we do not intend to get it. When you do the research, we as the world are being told a lie about what the vaccine is doing to thousands upon thousands of people. This article that I have copied n pasted is from the CDC‘s own website that the news media will never tell you. If it means that Clemson loses every game this year, and I have been a tiger fan for over 60 years n gone to every playoff game for the last 5 years, I am willing for that to happen if it will save someone else’s life from taking the vaccine shot. We are about to experience an entire generation of not having children born from girls who are getting the shot. The government is even now pushing for children to age 5 to get the vaccine. Just this past month, a report came out that JetBlue airline lost five pilots who died mysteriously because they were forced to get the vaccine or else they would lose their job. I have been called many things including a conspiracy theorist, which is fine with me. Standing up for what I believe is true is my right as an American. I know many of you have had pressure put on you, as I have even from many of my church friends, to get the shot or lose your job. That is a decision that all of us will have to make sometime this year. Do not believe what the news media is telling you. It is all a lie and it will be coming out soon. Please do the research and follow the money. Fauci and Bill Gates are making millions upon millions of dollars off of this vaccine. Time will tell. Pray for me and my family as I will certainly do for you n your family.
I am confused. You are comparing total vaccine deaths to Covid deaths in one week???
 

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What I don’t get is if you feel so protected by the shot, then why do you care who else gets it? Why should you even care?? You’re protected, right?!

And this isn’t some political thing for me as the vaccine was developed & distributed on Trump’s watch…but I was never gonna take it regardless bc I just didn’t feel comfortable with it…but like I said, to each his own & congrats to you for taking the Trump vaccine…

It’s very simple. The unvaccinated people are singlehandedly causing the creation of variants which is prolonging the pandemic. It’s past the point of respecting people’s opinions. Adults who aren’t vaccinated are directly harming the country.
 

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It’s very simple. The unvaccinated people are singlehandedly causing the creation of variants which is prolonging the pandemic. It’s past the point of respecting people’s opinions. Adults who aren’t vaccinated are directly harming the country.
********…but keep drinking the koolaid…

Can I let ya in on a little secret? Vaccinated, unvaccinated, whatever…this thing ain’t going away 100% anytime soon…big pharma & even some of our own govt officials will see to that…
 

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folks still think the vaccine prevents you from getting covid? and use it as a reason not to vaccinate?

🤣
 
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Please please please don’t let this be taken the wrong way but there have been a bit over 648 deaths from COVID in the 15 to 24 age group. It does not surprise me that there may be some hesitancy.
Tucker had a CDC stat - ~350 COVID deaths for <18; John Hopkins researchers found literally all of those deaths had an underlying precondition of leukemia.
 
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It’s very simple. The unvaccinated people are singlehandedly causing the creation of variants which is prolonging the pandemic. It’s past the point of respecting people’s opinions. Adults who aren’t vaccinated are directly harming the country.
Is it that simple though? Vaccinated people are getting it. What makes you think they are not spreading it as well? There is no data to suggest they can’t. How many asymptotic vaccinated people do you think are getting tested? I would think little to none unless mandated to do so.
 
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More people dying from vaccine in last two weeks than Covid. Makes you wonder. Real number on deaths from vaccine is about 45.000. if your young and heathy don't see a need for it. It's a personal decision for sure. Don't trust our government or media that's also for sure. JMO.
 
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I made a less civil post but deleted it after reading Cris's request. I will just say there is apparently a serious lack of critical thought and reading comprehension amongst a significant portion of this board. I hope the future brings a little clarity to some of the misinformation that has run rampant about vaccinations. And I hope that most of our team gets vaccinated ASAP. It would be a travesty to lose games based off of something so avoidable.
You are right, but that's a narrow minded proposition.
I am NOT being snarky.

And, even though my position is clear to all.

Think through this.
Is winning 'at all cost' worth it?

Throw your arm away as a pitcher. Just cause the team needs you?
Barely able to walk as an older man because you shouldn't have played a game or two with that gimpy 'knee' "I can play, coach!"

Important games, important seasons go away.
How important was your HomeComing game in HS?
How important is it now?

Lots of examples can be presented.

I'm presenting one.
How important is 'that' game.............one game/season............ if it impacts an entire life.
A young athlete's life.

"a travesty"? you say?

Poor choice of words, no matter what side of this one is on.

Me thinks you were still swirling from what you 'wanted' to post.
Maybe you should have.
 
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The number of vaccine-related deaths has increased dramatically this year. According to the CDC's own data, in 2021, in the first 3 months, more than 1,750 vaccine deaths were registered on the VAERS website in the United States.
Last week, they reported 6,985 deaths, and this week this number has increased from 2,043 to 9,048.

Currently, there are 9125 deaths from vaccination in the United States as of 2021 (CDC data)

In addition, 1,505 deaths from COVID-19 were registered in the United States last week.

This means that there were more deaths from the Covid vaccine in the US last week than from Covid itself.

@WorldawakeningTrueNews. Here is some news that probably 99% of you are unaware of. I have not had the vaccine shot nor my wife and we do not intend to get it. When you do the research, we as the world are being told a lie about what the vaccine is doing to thousands upon thousands of people. This article that I have copied n pasted is from the CDC‘s own website that the news media will never tell you. If it means that Clemson loses every game this year, and I have been a tiger fan for over 60 years n gone to every playoff game for the last 5 years, I am willing for that to happen if it will save someone else’s life from taking the vaccine shot. We are about to experience an entire generation of not having children born from girls who are getting the shot. The government is even now pushing for children to age 5 to get the vaccine. Just this past month, a report came out that JetBlue airline lost five pilots who died mysteriously because they were forced to get the vaccine or else they would lose their job. I have been called many things including a conspiracy theorist, which is fine with me. Standing up for what I believe is true is my right as an American. I know many of you have had pressure put on you, as I have even from many of my church friends, to get the shot or lose your job. That is a decision that all of us will have to make sometime this year. Do not believe what the news media is telling you. It is all a lie and it will be coming out soon. Please do the research and follow the money. Fauci and Bill Gates are making millions upon millions of dollars off of this vaccine. Time will tell. Pray for me and my family as I will certainly do for you n your family.
I will pray for you, I was watching videos of people from Arkansas yesterday that are much younger than you one step away from death saying they would do anything to go back in time and get the vaccine. I think a very recent study has shown that all the bogus information about the vaccine has originated from about a dozen people on the Internet.

In my decision to get the vaccine I didn't hesitate because all I could think about was giving the virus to a family member and killing them. I can't imagine being so fearful for myself that I put them in danger. To each his own.
 

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Is it that simple though? Vaccinated people are getting it. What makes you think they are not spreading it as well? There is no data to suggest they can’t. How many asymptotic vaccinated people do you think are getting tested? I would think little to none unless mandated to do so.

The vast majority of people getting it and spreading it are unvaccinated.
 

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********…but keep drinking the koolaid…

Can I let ya in on a little secret? Vaccinated, unvaccinated, whatever…this thing ain’t going away 100% anytime soon…big pharma & even some of our own govt officials will see to that…

I never said it would go away 100%. But unvaccinated people are 100% dragging this thing out.
 

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This is one of the most uninformed posts I have read in a while and I read lots of TigerGrowls.

VAERS is a self reporting tool. Anyone can report to the website. It is not a reporting of ACTUAL deaths. Do you know how many VERIFIED vaccine deaths there have been? Three. Those are blood clot related and from the J&J vaccine. Lots of people claim to have died from the vaccine but then an autopsy report shows that it just isn't true. For example, in March there were a ton of news stories circulating about a women who died after just getting their 2nd dose. This was reported before the medical examiner's office had even concluded cause of death. Investigation done and oops--nothing to do with the vaccine. This happens with VAERS reports all the time.

There is no Jet Blue report. Why are you listening to STEW PETERS and Jane Ruby (who is not a medical doctor)?? This is debunked garbage. Nothing even remotely true other than conspiracy goobley gook.


Obituary records show cause of deaths to be cancer and UTV accident.

These same people believe vaccines make you--and I am not kidding--magnetize. Like Magneto or something. It would be hilarious if people like you weren't so incredibly gullible.


I agree with most of what you are saying, but isn't it ironic that when COVID deaths were raging all other morbidity decreased dramatically. Now a drug rushed through all phases, or possibly skipped phases (not sure on this), of testing is amazingly safe.

I will sit in the skeptical chair for a while, especially already having had COVID.
 

stigers91

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the story you paint. i am regretting getting it. dang


oh wait, none of what you posted is fact, except on facebook.
I know people with the vaccine that have just contracted COVID. It's not a cure and it hasnt been around long enough to know it's true effectiveness.
 
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The vast majority of people getting it and spreading it are unvaccinated.
Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down and beat you with experience. There's no point arguing with people for whom no amount of evidence will ever be sufficient. They'll just crawl back to Facebook for more disinformation. For anyone curious, here is a paper concerning the vaccination effort in Israel: https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736(21)00947-8
Here is another paper concerning the effect of mRNA vaccines on viral load:

There are numerous more along similar lines.
 
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This is one of the most uninformed posts I have read in a while and I read lots of TigerGrowls.

VAERS is a self reporting tool. Anyone can report to the website. It is not a reporting of ACTUAL deaths. Do you know how many VERIFIED vaccine deaths there have been? Three. Those are blood clot related and from the J&J vaccine. Lots of people claim to have died from the vaccine but then an autopsy report shows that it just isn't true. For example, in March there were a ton of news stories circulating about a women who died after just getting their 2nd dose. This was reported before the medical examiner's office had even concluded cause of death. Investigation done and oops--nothing to do with the vaccine. This happens with VAERS reports all the time.

There is no Jet Blue report. Why are you listening to STEW PETERS and Jane Ruby (who is not a medical doctor)?? This is debunked garbage. Nothing even remotely true other than conspiracy goobley gook.


Obituary records show cause of deaths to be cancer and UTV accident.

These same people believe vaccines make you--and I am not kidding--magnetize. Like Magneto or something. It would be hilarious if people like you weren't so incredibly gullible.


I accidentally gave this a laughing like, but it deserves a 1000 real likes from everyone here.
 
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The team should not be pressured..whether to take it or not..nor should they be restricted in any way to move about freely. This board has the foresight to see where a pressured mandate could lead this country.
 
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