I probably wouldn't believe me if I was you either, but it's the truth.
The only other options is if Freeze regularly lies to this person I'm talking about, which given many of the other things I've been told, I don't gather that to be a normal occurrence.
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?142840-Kellenberger-on-Dan-today&p=1122343#post1122343
Lots of speculation there for somebody in the know. And yeah, he lies to this guy if he told him he was just misinformed.