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STUCKNKS

All-American
Jan 2, 2012
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remind us again - who's responsible for compiling those responsible for compiling the talent?

DVH is a college baseball legend. tons of success everywhere he's been.
Will say it again. Give many college coaches the talent Nebraska had the years they went to the CWS and they still win.
Not arguing about whether or not dvh is a good coach. My point is talent and to recruit talent takes alot more than just a great coach.
All I'm saying.
 
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Will say it again. Give many college coaches the talent Nebraska had the years they went to the CWS and they still win.
Not arguing about whether or not dvh is a good coach. My point is talent and to recruit talent takes alot more than just a great coach.
All I'm saying.
ha ha ha ha ha. Does that theory work with football too? Clearly not.

Rice baseball just fired a coach who was on the job just 3 years because he couldn't even get them to the CUSA tournament. Wayne Graham took them to the CWS 7 times and won the title in 2003. Surely the guy following him could at least get to the CUSA tournament right?
 
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Will say it again. Give many college coaches the talent Nebraska had the years they went to the CWS and they still win.
Not arguing about whether or not dvh is a good coach. My point is talent and to recruit talent takes alot more than just a great coach.
All I'm saying.
except nobody gives anybody talent

the head coach is 100% in charge of bringing it in, whether directly or via the coaches he also is 100% in charge of bringing in

what you're saying makes no sense
 

schuele

All-American
Apr 17, 2005
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Will say it again. Give many college coaches the talent Nebraska had the years they went to the CWS and they still win.
Not arguing about whether or not dvh is a good coach. My point is talent and to recruit talent takes alot more than just a great coach.
All I'm saying.
How many coaching staffs even give Shane Komine the time of day, let alone name him their Friday night starter and develop him into one of the most dominant pitchers in the country.? Van Horn gathered up players from recruiting hotbeds like Nebraska, Minnesota and Ontario, along with guys from Texas and Oklahoma that no other Big XII program wanted, and won conference championships, regionals and super regionals with them. That great talent you’re talking about never ends up in Lincoln if not for him.
 
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Sporty

Senior
Jul 4, 2007
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Lack of respect for baseball managers and coaches on this venue is a joke. Complete ignorance to how important a head baseball coach is to a team.
 

schuele

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Apr 17, 2005
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Lack of respect for baseball managers and coaches on this venue is a joke. Complete ignorance to how important a head baseball coach is to a team.
Hey man, once top recruits got a look at Buck Beltzer Field, NU was fighting them off with a stick.
 

HUSKERFAN66

All-Conference
Dec 8, 2004
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I'll skip through the tulips.

Dave VanHorn was a great coach at NU and is a great coach at Arkansas. He AND his staff brought in great talent and made the best of them.

We have a disciple of his here. Coach Childress was a good guy and recommended that we take Anderson which they had no room for. Thanks coach. Yes Van Horn is good
 

tpmcg_rivals137159

All-Conference
Mar 25, 2002
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Biggest problem TO had was he didn’t want to spend the $$$ on any coaches..
i honestly don't recall and don't doubt, but i wonder if there was a part of him who was irritated by the pay that was being thrown around just a couple years after he blew out...?
 

Redscarlet

Heisman
Jun 17, 2001
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i honestly don't recall and don't doubt, but i wonder if there was a part of him who was irritated by the pay that was being thrown around just a couple years after he blew out...?

I believe there was. Or he just felt coaches didn’t deserve more without proving themselves first...
 

HUSKERFAN66

All-Conference
Dec 8, 2004
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So it looks like regional at TCU unless they do something stupid in the tournament.....wish we had one.......will NU ticket office have tickets available or have to get them through TCU??
 

mwulf

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2013
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So it looks like regional at TCU unless they do something stupid in the tournament.....wish we had one.......will NU ticket office have tickets available or have to get them through TCU??
It's usually through the host site athletic dept but this year is upside-down
 

HUSKERFAN66

All-Conference
Dec 8, 2004
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It's usually through the host site athletic dept but this year is upside-down
Thought I would check StubHub out of curiosity. NU vs meat chicken tickets are available for this weekend in the$55 range. For comparison big 12 tournament tickets are $14
 

HUSKERFAN66

All-Conference
Dec 8, 2004
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Well here we go. Ksu is up 5-3 over TCU in bottom of 3. This will shake up the regionals if this holds
 

schuele

All-American
Apr 17, 2005
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any reasons why the game Friday is at NOON?
I thought it was probably due to the BTN schedule. But there are two hours of recorded programming between NU-Michigan and the next live game, and no evening game at all on BTN. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
 

Redscarlet

Heisman
Jun 17, 2001
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Thought I would check StubHub out of curiosity. NU vs meat chicken tickets are available for this weekend in the$55 range. For comparison big 12 tournament tickets are $14
I landed some Meechigan tickets going with a couple of buddies for the Friday Game!
 

HUSKERFAN66

All-Conference
Dec 8, 2004
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TCU squeaked by 7-6 so looks like that regional could still be in play. I hope so. They're VERY vulnerable
 

STUCKNKS

All-American
Jan 2, 2012
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ha ha ha ha ha. Does that theory work with football too? Clearly not.

Rice baseball just fired a coach who was on the job just 3 years because he couldn't even get them to the CUSA tournament. Wayne Graham took them to the CWS 7 times and won the title in 2003. Surely the guy following him could at least get to the CUSA tournament right?
Absolutely Not. Football totally different.
 

STUCKNKS

All-American
Jan 2, 2012
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except nobody gives anybody talent

the head coach is 100% in charge of bringing it in, whether directly or via the coaches he also is 100% in charge of bringing in

what you're saying makes no sense
Makes 100% sense. You are just having trouble understanding but thats ok.
 

STUCKNKS

All-American
Jan 2, 2012
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How many coaching staffs even give Shane Komine the time of day, let alone name him their Friday night starter and develop him into one of the most dominant pitchers in the country.? Van Horn gathered up players from recruiting hotbeds like Nebraska, Minnesota and Ontario, along with guys from Texas and Oklahoma that no other Big XII program wanted, and won conference championships, regionals and super regionals with them. That great talent you’re talking about never ends up in Lincoln if not for him.
Lol. Go back and look at the rosters. Van Horne is a good coach but when you have players like that.....that is what it takes to win.
I just don't oohh and ahh over all these over paid college coaches like most do.
No talent/great coaching will not get you far in baseball too often. Talent/avg coaching will trump 1st scenario every time.
 

schuele

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Apr 17, 2005
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Lol. Go back and look at the rosters. Van Horne is a good coach but when you have players like that.....that is what it takes to win.
I just don't oohh and ahh over all these over paid college coaches like most do.
No talent/great coaching will not get you far in baseball too often. Talent/avg coaching will trump 1st scenario every time.
Any loudmouthed, insufferable, blowharding know-it-all can look back at those NU rosters and say that Van Horn had a lot of great players. But not many people considered them great players when he was recruiting them.
 

HUSKERFAN66

All-Conference
Dec 8, 2004
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Any loudmouthed, insufferable, blowharding know-it-all can look back at those NU rosters and say that Van Horn had a lot of great players. But not many people considered them great players when he was recruiting them.
That must have made him a good coach if he had talent that wasn't any good
 

schuele

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That must have made him a good coach if he had talent that wasn't any good
Van Horn had some very talented players. But the vast majority of them were overlooked by top programs, which is how he got them to come join a downtrodden, underfunded program that played in a dump. It's not like a whole bunch of Alex Gordons just fell into his lap.
 

STUCKNKS

All-American
Jan 2, 2012
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Any loudmouthed, insufferable, blowharding know-it-all can look back at those NU rosters and say that Van Horn had a lot of great players. But not many people considered them great players when he was recruiting them.
So what is your point? That it made it easy for N to land these kids or they just showed up with no skills and Van Horn all of a sudden made em great players lol
 

STUCKNKS

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Van Horn had some very talented players. But the vast majority of them were overlooked by top programs, which is how he got them to come join a downtrodden, underfunded program that played in a dump. It's not like a whole bunch of Alex Gordons just fell into his lap.
Van Horn also had multiple good pitchers on the roster. Does VH coach pitching? Lol.
All I am saying here again, You must have talent to win especially more so in Baseball.
Why do you think most of the top 20 teams are from warm climate states. Coaching?
Give me a stinkin break!
 

schuele

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So what is your point? That it made it easy for N to land these kids or they just showed up with no skills and Van Horn all of a sudden made em great players lol
I think my point is pretty clear to anyone with half a brain. Van Horn took a bunch of guys the top programs didn't think were Big XII-worthy players and built a winning program with them. You can lol lol lol to your heart's content - it won't change the fact that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
 

STUCKNKS

All-American
Jan 2, 2012
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I think my point is pretty clear to anyone with half a brain. Van Horn took a bunch of guys the top programs didn't think were Big XII-worthy players and built a winning program with them. You can lol lol lol to your heart's content - it won't change the fact that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Lol. I can't help it you are a huge N fan and obviously a van horn fan. I'm good with that but again, the talent on the roster wins games in baseball. The team with the top talent comes out on top 80% of the time.
You can't see that I get it. Again, you obviously think van horn is tops.
It's ok.