CS8 Predictions

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Seven conference teams made the playoffs in 2024: SHG, QND, Springfield, Jacksonville, Chatham, Rochester, and U High. SHG, Springfield, Chatham, and Rochester all return a large number of starters. QND, Jacksonville, and U High were hit harder by graduation and in QND's case by transfer but each has some impressive returning players. I will be surprised if any of these teams fail to make the playoffs.

Five teams did not make the playoffs in 2024: Southeast, Lanphier, Lincoln, MacArthur, and Eisenhower. Southeast and Eisenhower look to be at least somewhat improved this season. The others are less clear. I do not expect that any of these teams will make the playoffs.

Top Returners
QB: Knoedler (Chatham, 2,643 yards/29 TD's), Scheffler (Springfield, 2,124 yds/17 TD's), Brinkman (SHG, 1,632 yds/14 TD's), Boyd (Southeast, 1,379 yds/14 TD's), and Beal (Rochester 999 yds/11 TD's)
RB: Moore (Eisenhower, 1,046 yards/12 TD's), Jackson (Jacksonville, 737 yds/5 TD's), Triplett (QND, 730 yds/6 TD's), Mueller (Chatham, 703 yds/9 TD's), and Stout (Rochester, 697 yds/9 TD's)
WR: Cunningham (U High, 1,245 yds/16 TD's), Thurman (Springfield, 860 yds/7 TD's), Mueller (Chatham, 507 yds/6 TD's), Doellman (QND, 467 yds/5 TD's), and Brown (Springfield, 456 yds/3 TD's)

West Division
1-SHG (6-5 in 2024, lost in 2nd round of 5A)
Since Ken Leonard's retirement, SHG has gone 7-4 and 6-5. Expect an improved team capable of a deeper run in either the 4A or 5A playoffs. QB Cam Brinkman should grow substantially from his impressive Sophomore totals, particularly when considering the strides fellow QB's Colten Knoedler and Brody Scheffler made from their Sophomore to Junior years. The Cyclones also return RB-LB Mikey Groesch who had almost 500 yards and 11 TD's last season. Key Game: Week 9 (H) vs Rochester. SHG has dominated Rochester at home over the years, losing only once at KL Stadium and that was to a Rocket team that went on to win a state title. This game could have playoff implications as well. If SHG ends up in 4A, they could face Rochester again as early as Week 10 or 11.

2-Jacksonville (6-4 in 2024, lost in 1st round of 5A)
Springfield is probably the better team at this point, but the Crimsons have a more favorable schedule than the Solons which could result in them getting 6-7 wins. They will need to be more balanced on Offense this year. The Crimsons were run first last year, with their starting QB attempting only 43 passes on the season and actually rushing for more yards than throwing. Jacksonville lost several big O-Lineman to graduation but return two RB's who combined for over 1,000 yards and averaged more than 10 yards a carry along with their QB who ran for over 500 yards. Key Game: Week 7 (A) vs QND. QND won 35-21 last year but lost its starting QB to transfer.

3-Springfield (5-5 in 2024, lost in 1st round of 6A)
Springfield may have the most returning starters in the conference. Their Offense should be very good, returning a 3-year starting QB in Scheffler, a bruising RB who had 11 TD's in '24, several WR's, and the entire O-Line. If the Solons have a potential downfall, it's a horrible back-end schedule. From Week 5-through Week 8, they will be on the road facing 4 playoff teams from last season: QND, Jacksonville, SHG, and Rochester. Then, they end the regular season against Chatham at Home. Springfield has struggled recently against SHG, Rochester, and Chatham, losing to them by a combined 135-49 margin in '24. Key Game: Week 5 (A) vs QND. Springfield lost by only 14-7 to the Raiders last year and this is a chance for them to start 5-0 if they can win on the road.

4-QND (10-2 in 2024, lost in 2A Quarters)
QND had a great initial season in the CS8 with impressive wins over SHG, Springfield, and Jacksonville. Graduation took its toll, and it may take time for a new QB to develop. However, don't expect a big drop off by the Raiders. Oliver Tripplett at RB and Gavin Doellman at WR return and both were very productive last season. The Raiders should start the season 3-0 and this will help the new QB get some experience before going on the road to face SHG in Week 4. Key Game: Week 5 (H) vs Springfield. This was a hard fought 14-7 win for QND last year. The Solons would be favored today but QND does get this game at home.

5-Southeast (2-7 in 2024, last in the playoffs in 2014)
The Spartans almost got new Coach Nate Borders a win in his 1st game last year against East Peoria leading early before losing. This turned out to be Southeast's most competitive loss by far, and their wins came against 0-9 Lanphier and 1-8 Eisenhower. They do have an experienced QB in Tony Boyd. Look for the Spartans to beat East Peoria in Week 1 in their newly renovated stadium. Key Game: Week 4 (A) vs Springfield. Southeast lost 51-24 last year and this will be a good marker to see how much the Spartan program has improved.

6-Lanphier (0-9 in 2024, last in the playoffs in 2004)
Lanphier has struggled greatly recently, winning one game in 2022 and going 0-9 in both 2023 and 2024. Their closest loss in 2024 was by 32 points Week 1 against Lincoln. The Lions need to look for small victories at this point, such as greater program numbers/player retention. Key Game: Week 1 (H) vs Lincoln. The 32-0 loss to the Railers was their closest game last year. This is the Lions best chance to show if they've improved, especially as Lincoln may be down a bit.

East Division
1-Chatham (9-3 in 2024, lost in 6A Quarters)
The Titans have made it to the 6A Quarterfinals the last two seasons and have an extremely impressive Senior class, with many returning starters. The Big 3 on Offense are QB Knoedler, RB Grady Mueller, and WR Blake Lehnen. Lehnen missed the entire regular season with an injury last year but is a big play threat. Mueller is dangerous as a runner, receiver, and kick returner. Knoedler made major strides from his Sophomore to Junior season and expect to see another leap forward. He was more willing to run last year when needed, which made their Offense even more dangerous. The Defense is led by DL Cody Moss, who is attracting some D-1 attention. Key Game: Week 1 (A) vs Edwardsville. If the Titans can knock off 7A Edwardsville on the road, they have a better than even chance to win out and start 9-0.

2-Rochester (7-3 in 2024, lost in 1st Round of 4A)
After their earliest playoff exit since 2008, motivation should not be an issue. The Rockets were young last year and will be again this year, but return a good number of experienced players. There could be 3 QB's used in different situations: Senior Tanner Beal who also starts at Safety, Junior JP Leonard, and Sophomore Khordell Gregory. Rochester will go as far as their Defense will take them this season. Last year, there was too much inconsistency. There was a good effort against Cardinal Ritter early in the season and mostly against SHG in Week 9, offset by very poor performances against Chatham and Peoria Notre Dame. Key Game: Week 2 (A) vs Mt Zion. This is a chance for the Defense in particular to make an early season statement on the road against last year's 4A runner up.

3-U High (10-3 in 2024, lost in 4A Semis)
Congrats to the Pioneers on making the deepest playoff run in the conference last year. They are in a bit of a rebuild mode, losing many key players to graduation particularly QB Alek Weiland who threw for over 3,600 yards and 43 TD's. U High does return WR Cade Cunningham, who was the only CS8 WR to have more than a 1,000 yards receiving last year. They also have a promising QB but it will take time for him to develop and Weiland's loss will be felt. However, Coach Walworth seems to have built a winning program. Key Game: Week 6 (A) vs Chatham. U High shocked the Titans at home last year, leading the entire game and winning 33-13. No doubt the Titans will have this game circled on their calendar and it will be a stern test for the Pioneers.

4-MacArthur (2-7 in 2024, last in playoffs in 2023)
Rumors of the possible return of elite RB-LB Myson Johnson Cook turned out to false as MJC transferred to East St Louis from Texas. There has also been talk of both transfers into and out of Mac's program. As the Decatur schools typically provide the least amount of info on their programs, it's hard to know the status of Generals roster. They had the worst decline in the conference in '24, going from 6-4 to 2-7. Mac could finish anywhere between 3rd and 6th in the East. Key Game: Week 3 (H) vs U High. Mac lost by a surprising margin of 48-7 to U High on the road last year, an early sign they were going to struggle. They get a rebuilding Pioneers at Home in a potential statement game.

5-Eisenhower (1-8 in 2024, last in playoffs in 2016)
Eisenhower returns a 1,000 yard rusher in Jaterryon Moore and a QB with some experience. The Panthers were very young last year and don't have great total program numbers. How well they retain the young players who took their lumps will say a lot about their potential success. Key Game: Week 4 (A) vs MacArthur. Mac won the battle of Decatur 55-12 last year. If Eisenhower is truly improved, they have a chance to show it here.

6-Lincoln (4-5 in 2024, last in playoffs in 2023)
Lincoln has gone 5-5 and 4-5 the last two seasons. However, they lost the talented RB/DB Carson twins to graduation after '23 and that hurt the Railers big play capability on Offense last year. Lincoln still had some success running the ball in '24 but lost almost 1,500 yards and 21 TD's produced by 3 Seniors to graduation. They will be pretty inexperienced at QB and the skill positions. The Railers still have a favorable schedule, facing Lanphier, Southeast, MacArthur, and Eisenhower who combined for a total of 4 wins last year. I do see a chance that those schools, other than Lanphier, could compete better with Lincoln and possibly win. Key Game: Week 2 (H) vs Southeast. Lincoln won easily last year but this contest could be much closer.
 
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All.... Very nice rocketnation. I can save you some research time when you start your weekly matchup reviews as it applies to SHG's week one match with Christian Brothers College H.S. out of St. Louis. Have already taken a hard look at them.

My thoughts on this game are pretty simple. Attempt to keep it close, hope to stay injury free and learn from it in practice before the week two. game. Not done last year.

The CBC Cadets are an all male school with (latest figure) 860 male students. Using Ihsa guidelines that would put them in Class 8A by rule with doubling their enrollment and adding on the 1.65 multiplier. Happy that Corey Simms has graduated and now is at USC. Of course they reload. I had a chance to watch their sophomore team play SHG at K.L. Stadium. They brought a boat load of players. That particular squad would of handled some of the lower ranked varsity teams in the CS8. Massive on both sides and speed everywhere. Preseason Missouri ranking at #2.

Some names form last year for the Cadets:

Nick McClellan one of the top qb's in Missouri. He will play for Kansas State next year. Duo threat quarterback

R- 79-891 12 tds 891 rushing (11.3)
P- 105-158 22tds 2062 passing

Top returning rb's -

Vic Williams- 40-425 6 td's (10.6) Receiving- 4-103 2td's

Coutney Rivers- 56-521 10 td's (9.3)

Corey Simms their top receiver as mentioned has graduated. Next in line back.

Jayden Reed 18-322 2 td's (17.9)

Corde Gage 11-269 3 td's (24.5)

Breaking in from the lower level and making the varsity looks to be quite difficult. Current varsity roster showing at this time 38 seniors and 10 juniors although I'm sure they will bring more to town. What is cool to watch about these "cats" even ending up on the short end is the Cadets game plan. Not complicated . With that size they beat you up on both sides of the line. And with all of their dynamic speed players on offense the defense can't lock onto everyone. As the qb has all the time in the world to throw or run with that big stong offensive line. Looking forward to this one and sharing stories with the CBC faithful before the game. Ratsy

P.S. I found this interesting on the w1 and w2 non con schedule. The Cyclones next year will play CBC once again week one. (A) They have replaced Mascoutah week two with Peoria. (H) For 2027 Belleville Althoff will be the Cycs opponent in week two with a two year contract. Starting at Belleville in 2027. Ratsy
 
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All.... Very nice rocketnation. I can save you some research time when you start your weekly matchup reviews as it applies to SHG's week one match with Christian Brothers College H.S. out of St. Louis. Have already taken a hard look at them.

My thoughts on this game are pretty simple. Attempt to keep it close, hope to stay injury free and learn from it in practice before the week two. game. Not done last year.

The CDC Cadets are an all male school with (latest figure) 860 male students. Using Ihsa guidelines that would put them in Class 8A by rule with doubling their enrollment and adding on the 1.65 multiplier. Happy that Corey Simms has graduated and now is at USC. Of course they reload. I had a chance to watch their sophomore team play SHG at K.L. Stadium. They brought a boat load of players. That particular squad would of handled some of the lower ranked varsity teams in the CS8. Massive on both sides and speed everywhere. Preseason Missouri ranking at #2.

Some names form last year for the Cadets:

Nick McClellan one of the top qb's in Missouri. He will play for Kansas State next year. Duo threat quarterback

R- 79-891 12 tds 891 rushing (11.3)
P- 105-158 22tds 2062 passing

Top returning rb's -

Vic Williams- 40-425 6 td's (10.6) Receiving- 4-103 2td's

Coutney Rivers- 56-521 10 td's (9.3)

Corey Simms theirr top receiver as mentioned has graduated. Next in line back.

Jayden Reed 18-322 2 td's (17.9)

Corde Gage 11-269 3 td's (24.5)

Breaking in from the lower level and making the varsity looks to be quite difficult. Current varsity roster showing at this time 38 seniors and 10 juniors although I'm sure they will bring more to town. What is cool to watch about these "cats" even ending up on the short end is the Cadets game plan. Not complicated . With that size they beat you up on both sides of the line. And with all of their dynamic speed players on offense the defense can't lock onto everyone. As the qb has all the time in the world to throw or run with that big stong offensive line. Looking forward to thsi one and sharing stories with the CBC faithful before the game. Ratsy

P.S. I found this interesting on the w1 and w2 non con schedule. The Cyclones next year will play CBC once again week one. (A) They have replaced Mascoutah week two with Peoria. (H) For 2027 Belleville Althoff will be the Cycs opponent in week two with a two year contract. (H&A)
In regards to week 1 for SHG... from all of us in the CS8... good luck! I mean that both in jest and sincerely if that makes sense. Glad it's you not us type of comment. Regardless, I think we can all expect a better showing this year!
 

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Just wait until I pick a "winner" and they end up being running clocked! It's happened before by Week 2, ratsy may remember.
All... I did not peek but had to think long and hard, and then checked. Of course when you have two teams that have had for quite some time bad records picking a winner at least the way I do it is if one conference overall is stronger then the other. (CS8>Mid Illini) EP though hammered Lanphier. You get to do it again this year.

I have watched a board that has a contest picking winners from week one to week 14 using a pointing season for correct answers. A group of teams each week that you make your best guess on. Week nine always bring one contest where both schools are 0-8. That is always a tricky one to figure out.. Ratsy P. S. I assume you picked Lanphier in that one.
 
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All... I did not peek but had to think long and hard, and then checked. Of course when you have two teams that have had for quite some time bad records picking a winner at least the way I do it is if one conference overall is stronger then the other. (CS8>Mid Illini) EP though hammered Lanphier. You get to do it again this year.

I have watched a board that has a contest picking winners from week one to week 14 using a pointing season for correct answers. A group of teams each week that you make your best guess on. Week nine always bring one contest where both schools are 0-8. That is always a tricky one to figure out.. Ratsy P. S. I assume you picked Lanphier in that one.
My worst call since joining the board was picking Rochester over Loyola.

My gut reaction when announced was that playing the game was a huge mistake. Throw in the short notice and traveling to Loyola made it even more of a recipe for disaster. Until Wednesday night of that week, Rochester was supposed to be having a home game against MacArthur.

But I rejected my gut, brewed up a batch of Kool-Aid, and took a big drink. Thought DL might be able to scheme his way to an upset or Loyola would be overconfident.

Loyola 56, Rochester 7.
 
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Love to see the good early season match ups. How does the CS8 look to compare against other conferences this year?
 
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My worst call since joining the board was picking Rochester over Loyola.

My gut reaction when announced was that playing the game was a huge mistake. Throw in the short notice and traveling to Loyola made it even more of a recipe for disaster. Until Wednesday night of that week, Rochester was supposed to be having a home game against MacArthur.

But I rejected my gut, brewed up a batch of Kool-Aid, and took a big drink. Thought DL might be able to scheme his way to an upset or Loyola would be overconfident.

Loyola 56, Rochester 7.
You must of gone up to Chicago for that much kool-aid!!!
 
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Love to see the good early season match ups. How does the CS8 look to compare against other conferences this year?
I thought the CS8 was down a bit overall last year, with the exceptions being U High, Chatham, and QND.

I'm expecting an upswing this season, but you never know until the games start. These Week 1-2 non-conference games may offer an early sign of the CS8's strength this year:
Chatham vs Edwardsville (Week 1). Edwardsville won 14-7 last year.
U High vs Bloomington (Week 2). Bloomington won 41-38 last year.
Rochester vs Mt Zion (Week 2). Did not play last year.
Jacksonville vs Highland (Week 1). Did not play last year.
SHG vs Mascoutah (Week 2). SHG won 43-22 last year.
 
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I thought the CS8 was down a bit overall last year, with the exceptions being U High, Chatham, and QND.

I'm expecting an upswing this season, but you never know until the games start. These Week 1-2 non-conference games may offer an early sign of the CS8's strength this year:
Chatham vs Edwardsville (Week 1). Edwardsville won 14-7 last year.
U High vs Bloomington (Week 2). Bloomington won 41-38 last year.
Rochester vs Mt Zion (Week 2). Did not play last year.
Jacksonville vs Highland (Week 1). Did not play last year.
SHG vs Mascoutah (Week 2). SHG won 43-22 last year.
All.... The Indians will be breaking in a new quarterback this season. They do return many starters. Among them is workhorse Jr. Sean Murphy. a 5"7" 160lb rb. Stats last season 249-1319 yard. 17td's 5.3. Last years game against SHG 26-128 4.92 2 td's. Best receiver back Sr. TE Jordan Beck 6'4" 215 season stats 25-296 4 td's 11.8. He had one catch in that game and it went for a td.

Mascoutah will have good size on their lines. And mentioned on the board earlier this year by a poster the town is in the middle of a military area and gets frequent move ins. The 2025 roster is showing some names I don't recognize and they are not freshman. The schools district continues to grow. I'm sure that was one factor they looked at before deciding to join the much larger Southwestern Conference in 2026. I've been told the food is great and the suds are ice cold at the Juicy Peanut Bar and Grill. Should be a fun road trip.... Ratsy
 
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There is a relatively new significant apartment complex between Lebanon and the MidAmerica airport. Not sure what school district it falls within but it could well be Mascoutah's. If so, that would be an enrollment booster.
 

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There is a relatively new significant apartment complex between Lebanon and the MidAmerica airport. Not sure what school district it falls within but it could well be Mascoutah's. If so, that would be an enrollment booster.
That is part of the Mascoutah district. There are also 2 massive sub-divisions on the north side of Mascoutah consisting of 300k+type housing that has sprung up in the last 15 or so years that is still expanding. Pretty impressive, because for awhile there, Mascoutah was dumpy/wittling away and was only propped up by the military families that came and went. Don't know what changed, but they also built their new high school addition in the last 15 years and their town has just went all-in since. Their AD has also done a helluva job of getting the community to buy in and is constantly upgrading their facilities.

Their athletic teams aren't nearly as dependent on the military kids as they once were. Have a cousin that teaches/coaches(not football) there and that's rarely ever mentioned anymore. A lot of the kids are there for 4 years these days, but I'm sure there are still military in's-and-outs. Think a lot of families getting away from STL/Belleville area while still being able to hop on 64 to get to work.

With that being said, I still expect SHG to roll them. They'll have some good athletes, but the whole "levels to this" thing comes into play. QB play will likely be an issue and they do return a lot on defense, but their defense wasn't good last year. If they can throw this year they should be able to put up a lot of points. Don't think they'll have the depth. Fringe playoff team like last year.
 
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That is part of the Mascoutah district. There are also 2 massive sub-divisions on the north side of Mascoutah consisting of 300k+type housing that has sprung up in the last 15 or so years that is still expanding. Pretty impressive, because for awhile there, Mascoutah was dumpy/wittling away and was only propped up by the military families that came and went. Don't know what changed, but they also built their new high school addition in the last 15 years and their town has just went all-in since. Their AD has also done a helluva job of getting the community to buy in and is constantly upgrading their facilities.

Their athletic teams aren't nearly as dependent on the military kids as they once were. Have a cousin that teaches/coaches(not football) there and that's rarely ever mentioned anymore. A lot of the kids are there for 4 years these days, but I'm sure there are still military in's-and-outs. Think a lot of families getting away from STL/Belleville area while still being able to hop on 64 to get to work.

With that being said, I still expect SHG to roll them. They'll have some good athletes, but the whole "levels to this" thing comes into play. QB play will likely be an issue and they do return a lot on defense, but their defense wasn't good last year. If they can throw this year they should be able to put up a lot of points. Don't think they'll have the depth. Fringe playoff team like last year.
All.... I have an important question. Best sports bar to stop off at that will have also Indian fans getting primed up before the game? Priorities are a must. 😇 Ratsy
 

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Don’t roll over for SHG just yet, Mascoutah fans. This isn’t your dad’s Cyclones. The jury is still out on whether Allison is able to handle the task of stepping in the shoes of a great man. They aren’t even the best private school in the CS8 until proven otherwise.
 
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Don’t roll over for SHG just yet, Mascoutah fans. This isn’t your dad’s Cyclones. The jury is still out on whether Allison is able to handle the task of stepping in the shoes of a great man. They aren’t even the best private school in the CS8 until proven otherwise.
Do you have any stats or evidence to back up your hot take?
 
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Back to back anemic seasons. Losing to Glenwood last year at home and the curb stomping by QND aren’t typical. Not a hot take unless you are getting comfortable going 6-3 and starting basketball on time.
oh are you talking about the field goal in overtime that shouldn't have even been attempted....?
 

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oh are you talking about the field goal in overtime that shouldn't have even been attempted....?

I did not know you could major in excuses at SHG. I thought it was just making arrogant GrossNoises when you have the upper hand. Seems to be a new era for you guys. What is your excuse for the 30 point beat down by a piddly 2A school?
 
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Do you have any stats or evidence to back up your hot take?
In fairness, the dude is trolling... so here we go I guess. He's already alluded to someone who's been banned before. The gross noise dude, whilst clever, isn't all that intelligent about football as we've learned as time has gone on.

Also in fairness, Allison has done little to secure the job long term from an outsiders' perspective. That's my opinion, worthless in the long run. I think he'll motivate 'em this year. Or at least I think he's going to have to...

Also in fairness, QND won't beat SHG by 30 again... probably ever. But we're awfully proud of that one time! More concerning for "the other" Catholic program in the CS8 is that we still can't beat 2A teams... sad face.

Let the fun times begin all. Safe travels this week to your preferred scrimmages. JFL season kicks off this weekend also for those itching to get to games... Best of luck this week and beyond, CS8 faithful!!!
 
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Also in fairness, QND won't beat SHG by 30 again... probably ever. But we're awfully proud of that one time! More concerning for "the other" Catholic program in the CS8 is that we still can't beat 2A teams... sad face.
This doesn’t mean you can’t live vicariously through that glorious one off night like you do the Rochester game from 1807 or whenever it happened.

I agree though, QND doesn’t really fit in with this league and their success exposes it for what it seems to be; a top heavy conference of 3 schools held up by JV-tier programs with little hope for success in the future.

The conference needs SHG to be the standard bearer for state wide relevance. It’s a tall task and the seat must be getting warm amongst the aging fan base whose days are numbered.
 
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This doesn’t mean you can’t live vicariously through that glorious one off night like you do the Rochester game from 1807 or whenever it happened.

I agree though, QND doesn’t really fit in with this league and their success exposes it for what it seems to be; a top heavy conference of 3 schools held up by JV-tier programs with little hope for success in the future.

The conference needs SHG to be the standard bearer for state wide relevance. It’s a tall task and the seat must be getting warm amongst the aging fan base whose days are numbered.
Right, as if Rochester's dozen titles or however many it is these days doesn't hold as much or more weight than SHG's 5... good call, P.I.

I also very vividly remember you, or your other ego, claiming QND would get "curb stomped" or something similar to that upon joining the CS8... It was around the same time some guy on another site from Lincoln was clapping about how the Railers would beat QND at football also. He never responded after the game. Hope he's ok. Anywho, your memo never got to Quincy, sorry P.I.
 

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Right, as if Rochester's dozen titles or however many it is these days doesn't hold as much or more weight than SHG's 5... good call, P.I.

I also very vividly remember you, or your other ego, claiming QND would get "curb stomped" or something similar to that upon joining the CS8... It was around the same time some guy on another site from Lincoln was clapping about how the Railers would beat QND at football also. He never responded after the game. Hope he's ok. Anywho, your memo never got to Quincy, sorry P.I.

I can tell I get to you. I can feel your body temperature rise as you crank out a cringey post and then rush to edit it several times before I see it.

Nonetheless while the Rochester football program has been enjoying tremendous success it is hard to believe they will continue this after Derek hangs up the whistle. A program like SHG is built to carry on with their facilities and the way they draw talent.

I think in the near future once DL is gone from Rochester we will see a surge in talent at places like Williamsville, Chatham and SHG while Rochester falls back to the mean. They certainly have been punching up a few weight classes and it is quite the sight to see.
 
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In fairness, the dude is trolling... so here we go I guess. He's already alluded to someone who's been banned before. The gross noise dude, whilst clever, isn't all that intelligent about football as we've learned as time has gone on.

Also in fairness, Allison has done little to secure the job long term from an outsiders' perspective. That's my opinion, worthless in the long run. I think he'll motivate 'em this year. Or at least I think he's going to have to...

Also in fairness, QND won't beat SHG by 30 again... probably ever. But we're awfully proud of that one time! More concerning for "the other" Catholic program in the CS8 is that we still can't beat 2A teams... sad face.

Let the fun times begin all. Safe travels this week to your preferred scrimmages. JFL season kicks off this weekend also for those itching to get to games... Best of luck this week and beyond, CS8 faithful!!!
This years team will be much better than last. Solid group of seniors and the juniors that played last year have another year of development. First game will be tough...but i suspect a better showing than last year.
 
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This years team will be much better than last. Solid group of seniors and the juniors that played last year have another year of development. First game will be tough...but i suspect a better showing than last year.
All but one here would likely agree. It's only a basic conclusion that another year under their belt will do them good, meaning the SHG boys. I also doubt the sting of losses to the likes of QND sat well with anyone over the summer... And let's be honest, we punched 'em in the mouth and were simply lucky they didn't punch back that night. I think we just caught them at a time of uncertainty. A time when they didn't realize their identity as a team/program. Rare, are those moments for a program as storied as the Cyclones. But, as all solid programs do after a couple "down" years, they bounce back and beat up on everyone in sight.

We, meaning QND, expect a MUCH stronger showing (more to the tune of what most expect from SHG) when we travel down West Washington to the Ken Leonard Cathedral this season. QND accepted the invite to this league not only for the stability in scheduling and the guarantee of at least more underclass games than we had prior, and perhaps to spark a rivalry or two along the way... but also for the challenge of being a 2A program playing 4A-6A competition. SHG was most definitely circled as one of the biggest challenges we'd face. I promise, at least from here, no one is overlooking the improvement we'll likely see from SHG this season.
 
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I can tell I get to you. I can feel your body temperature rise as you crank out a cringey post and then rush to edit it several times before I see it.

Nonetheless while the Rochester football program has been enjoying tremendous success it is hard to believe they will continue this after Derek hangs up the whistle. A program like SHG is built to carry on with their facilities and the way they draw talent.

I think in the near future once DL is gone from Rochester we will see a surge in talent at places like Williamsville, Chatham and SHG while Rochester falls back to the mean. They certainly have been punching up a few weight classes and it is quite the sight to see.
I understand that you have a fascination/obsession with hijacking threads about the CS8, and the reason remains a mystery by design. Power to ya, bud, look at you go! I'm sure a coward hiding behind a keyboard who often shows serious and concerning signs of narcissism would generally lack the basic empathy required for what I'm going to say next, but I feel it's best to give it a shot anyways...

I urge you to have an ounce of compassion and multiple ounces of respect for rocketnation, who puts this particular thread together for us weekly to discuss the CS8 and it's programs. I know he doesn't appreciate you and I watering it down with our pissing contest weekly. If you have any issue with me or what I say, I'll gladly entertain you in a private setting or on another thread. But I won't be responding to your negativity inside a rocket thread past this. I think we can both agree that's fair.

Wish you the best on your mental health journey, sir. God bless.
 

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All.... I have an important question. Best sports bar to stop off at that will have also Indian fans getting primed up before the game? Priorities are a must. 😇 Ratsy
Don't know much about the Mascoutah festivities, but the Juicy Peanut is probably your best bet. Not a very big place and not much parking though, but it is also about a block from the school. For as much as Mascoutah has grown, there really isn't much there.

Couple other options is The Vault which recently opened(see a lot of advertising for it), and a couple older mom-n-pop type places called Skootr's, which I enjoyed, and the White Top Inn. The last 2 are on the east side of town, but everything is easy to get to since it's all on the same street.
 

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I understand that you have a fascination/obsession with hijacking threads about the CS8, and the reason remains a mystery by design. Power to ya, bud, look at you go! I'm sure a coward hiding behind a keyboard who often shows serious and concerning signs of narcissism would generally lack the basic empathy required for what I'm going to say next, but I feel it's best to give it a shot anyways...

I urge you to have an ounce of compassion and multiple ounces of respect for rocketnation, who puts this particular thread together for us weekly to discuss the CS8 and it's programs. I know he doesn't appreciate you and I watering it down with our pissing contest weekly. If you have any issue with me or what I say, I'll gladly entertain you in a private setting or on another thread. But I won't be responding to your negativity inside a rocket thread past this. I think we can both agree that's fair.

Wish you the best on your mental health journey, sir. God bless.

Spare me the fake compassion speech, preacher. You wrote three paragraphs of self-righteous fluff just to say you’re not replying anymore, ironically proving you crave the last word. If you don’t like my posts, scroll on instead of writing a diary entry about my supposed ‘mental health journey.’ I’ll keep posting where and how I want, and you can keep clutching your pearls. Deal with it.

If you do not reply to the GrossNoises of fall then the thread will continue as intended. But as your discipline problems extend beyond that and into alcohol and embarrassing your family I’m sure your precious rocketnation thread will be tainted.

anyways Week 1 predictions: SHG over Mascoutah 42-14, Chatham over Edwardsville 21-10. Book em.
 
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All but one here would likely agree. It's only a basic conclusion that another year under their belt will do them good, meaning the SHG boys. I also doubt the sting of losses to the likes of QND sat well with anyone over the summer... And let's be honest, we punched 'em in the mouth and were simply lucky they didn't punch back that night. I think we just caught them at a time of uncertainty. A time when they didn't realize their identity as a team/program. Rare, are those moments for a program as storied as the Cyclones. But, as all solid programs do after a couple "down" years, they bounce back and beat up on everyone in sight.

We, meaning QND, expect a MUCH stronger showing (more to the tune of what most expect from SHG) when we travel down West Washington to the Ken Leonard Cathedral this season. QND accepted the invite to this league not only for the stability in scheduling and the guarantee of at least more underclass games than we had prior, and perhaps to spark a rivalry or two along the way... but also for the challenge of being a 2A program playing 4A-6A competition. SHG was most definitely circled as one of the biggest challenges we'd face. I promise, at least from here, no one is overlooking the improvement we'll likely see from SHG this season.
I wouldn't give an inch to SHG regardless how they played. If they looked past QND it was understandable but... Getting punched repeatedly in the mouth should've caused a reaction in kind but we saw what SHG did... They folded. QND was the better team last season and nobody saw that comin!~
 
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Spare me the fake compassion speech, preacher. You wrote three paragraphs of self-righteous fluff just to say you’re not replying anymore, ironically proving you crave the last word. If you don’t like my posts, scroll on instead of writing a diary entry about my supposed ‘mental health journey.’ I’ll keep posting where and how I want, and you can keep clutching your pearls. Deal with it.

If you do not reply to the GrossNoises of fall then the thread will continue as intended. But as your discipline problems extend beyond that and into alcohol and embarrassing your family I’m sure your precious rocketnation thread will be tainted.

anyways Week 1 predictions: SHG over Mascoutah 42-14, Chatham over Edwardsville 21-10. Book em.
The Edwardsville game will be tough for Chatham and I agree with you that the Titans should handle the Tigers by 10!
 
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The Edwardsville game will be tough for Chatham and I agree with you that the Titans should handle the Tigers by 10!

Solely going off the result from last year that saw a defensive stalemate. I think Glenwood will have a bit more offensive fire power and Edwardsville loses some stout defensive players especially on the line. This is the match up of the week.

I think this is the year Rochester gets back on track and they start it off by pounding an over hyped Indiana school. If they lose this year it will likely have to be in a shoot out similar to the PND loss.

SHG will the admirable pick up, but chances are they aren’t gonna run their mouths as much as they will when they play Lanphier while the CBC boys jog to the end zone.

I think this will be a much stronger year for the top heavy conference with schools like U High falling back down to earth.
 

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This years team will be much better than last. Solid group of seniors and the juniors that played last year have another year of development. First game will be tough...but i suspect a better showing than last year.
All.... Coach Allison mentioned upfront on the defense the Cycs won't as in the past be quite as large. He referenced not playing a two gap defense because of that and being very aggressive with this smaller front.

Which would leave me to think yep .... one gap defense. A team using that can still roll with a 3-4 or 4-3. Or overload. The key being successful is discipline with reads and shooting those gaps correctly in attempting to stop the run. Thus the aggresive part. SHG has a load of skills back with experience and should know what to do. Looking foward to watching them work. Ratsy
 
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Solely going off the result from last year that saw a defensive stalemate. I think Glenwood will have a bit more offensive fire power and Edwardsville loses some stout defensive players especially on the line. This is the match up of the week.

I think this is the year Rochester gets back on track and they start it off by pounding an over hyped Indiana school. If they lose this year it will likely have to be in a shoot out similar to the PND loss.

SHG will the admirable pick up, but chances are they aren’t gonna run their mouths as much as they will when they play Lanphier while the CBC boys jog to the end zone.

I think this will be a much stronger year for the top heavy conference with schools like U High falling back down to earth.
Chatham should've won last years game against the Tigers forsure. The problem with large schools (2000+enrollments) is they can reload quick so even with my "Homer" bias for the Titans, I do believe this will be a tight game. The Titan O line, with late addition from Texas, should be a load running the ball but the problem there is the Titan OC likes to put the ball in the air, which is fine against the CS8 but if the Titans want to go deep in the playoffs, having a chance against the Power down South, they will have to be nasty in the trenches and run the damn ball like Cary Grove. Going "toe-2-toe" or RPO v RPO against EStL is a death wish... They have too much talent down South.

Rochester is a year away from being the Rockets we've come to know and love!~ I'm not sayin they won't do good and great things but I don't know if they will bring home a championship this season. I hope they do but...

SHG is, well..., SHG and if ya know ya know!~

UHigh and QND will land hard comin back down from last season. IF... If QND can get nasty on the O line they can compete in the playoffs for another deep run. HAD... they been able to run the ball more against Moroa they may have won that game.

Jacksonville is the sleeper. Do I think they can pull off what UHigh and QND did last season? Most likely not but 7 wins seems likely! Mark has them living in the weight room from what I've been told so we will have to see what the Crimsons do this season.

All in all it should be another good season for the CS8!

On a side note I saw a video from a Texas high school that were tearing it off in the chutes... Old school, spit flying, snot runnin, hard hitting... Why is Texas football the best... I know we didn't have hitting drills or chutes where "two went in and one came out" drills at the 6A level. We did when I was in high school but as the DINOSAUR that I am I need to keep history in the past...
 
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All.... Coach Allison mentioned upfront on the defense the Cycs won't as in the past be quite as large. He referenced not playing a two gap defense because of that and being very aggressive with this smaller front.

Which would leave me to think yep .... one gap defense. A team using that can still roll with a 3-4 or 4-3. Or overload. The key being successful is discipline with reads and shooting those gaps correctly in attempting to stop the run. Thus the aggresive part. SHG has a load of skills back with experience and should know what to do. Looking foward to watching them work. Ratsy
Aggression---> Death trap
 

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Allison making excuses about the line being small is just to brace the fan base to get used to watching doctor’s sons giving up 7 yards a pop when they play teams with a pulse.

Cornerrat you will never witness another SHG football state title in your life time. Better get out and watch the girls play golf if you want to have something to root for.
 
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All.... Whatever you say Sparta. 😴 Ratsy
Do you why men the Army called me Sparta? Most likely not and YOU wouldn't get it anyway!!! Arrogant is what I think of you... Obnoxious is what most people here think of you. Anyway I read... books... lots of books because TV is for the brain dead and indoctrinated like you... This book here is a good read... The Stoics believed in courage, temperance, justice, and wisdom while living life the right way. Do you know who the Stoics are?! Thank Odin that you have the internet right!? Anyway, they were men who thought... Yes I know this is difficult for you because you have to have a brain in order to think... These men didn't respond quickly due to their wisdom of thought on the matter, whatever that may have been. You... You don't think you just spew... I'm sure that got you friends in high school but in life not so much!~ Please read this book because you need direction in your empty life!~ I'm in a lot of groups and hang with some very good men from the Freemason's, VFW, American Legion, John Birch, MENSA and many others. We are not perfect like you but we try to be good men. Read this book.. It may open your eyes if you are not blindly lead by faith.
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